Episode 558 Scott Adams: Celebrating My Birthday With You While Talking About all the Good News

Date: 2019-06-08 | Duration: 47:46

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hey everybody come on in for the special birthday edition Eric feminine welcome Eric is here in the house if you don’t know Eric recently said some good things about the when crypto token that my company puts out and with with one mention from Eric Feynman who is if you don’t know he’s the he’s the very young genius crypto millionaire you probably saw him in news and with one word he took the when crypto currency to the number one position on on it’s exchange so it’s the actually it’s a for the last 24 hours it was the top traded crypto currency on on one of the exchanges Ron so thanks for that Eric today is my birthday I’m a young 62 getting stronger every

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I’m a young 62 getting stronger every day and I do that just to make some people I agree yes Gemini it is heaven is we got interesting things to talk about today I think you’re gonna like this periscope better than most now of course it’s Kanye West’s birthday just a coincidence probably let’s talk about all the fun things first of all in the news President Trump is announcing that his terror threats against Mexico have achieved a results and the results that’s achieved is that Mexico has agreed to put more more work on its southern border with Guatemala and to prevent people from coming in and some kind of agreement to keep people in Mexico while they’re being processed for asylum and also they’re freezing some bank accounts of some folks now it’s being reported by

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of some folks now it’s being reported by the president as they clean wind he made a threat they gave him what he wants it all took about a week everybody’s good best of all people are gonna say it looks like Mexico is paying for the wall now they might be paying for a wall on their southern border but we’re not paying for it and it will stop people from coming into our country so in a weird way that these simulation works it’s entirely possible that Mexico just agreed to paint from the wall now the wall might be a virtual wall it might be either their National Guard on the border or keeping people from crossing but it’s a step in the right direction now here’s what to expect what you should expect over the coming days right after my simultaneous sip are you ready for this we’ll get back to that moment if you’ve got a glass or a cup or a mug possibly a Stein or a chalice or a tankard could be any kind of a flask a

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tankard could be any kind of a flask a thermos a vessel of any kind if you would like to join me in the special birthday version of the simultaneous sip and now is the time grab your cup and join me for the unparalleled pleasure of the simultaneous end mmm mmm that’s birthday stuff that’s good extra extra good all right so here’s what to expect with this Mexican tariff solution situation you’re gonna find in the next week or so that all the critics will say hey that’s not as big a deal as it looks or they’re gonna say they are sort of already gonna do that stuff anyway they’re gonna say look at this video I have a people who are still crossing the border into the United States obviously it didn’t work so I would lower your lower your expectations of how much of a difference this will make it probably will make a difference we don’t know if it’s at 80% difference

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we don’t know if it’s at 80% difference or a 20% difference but is progress my favorite part about it does a terrorist work it’s probably the most I don’t know it might be the most central thing that this president has claimed that his critics say is crazy and if it worked in Mexico China is probably looking at it and saying to themselves oh darn it imagine you’re you’re the Chinese tariff negotiators and you just watched President Trump deliver what looks like a win you know things might change in the next few days as we learn more about it but it looks like a win at the moment over in China they’re thinking to themselves the last thing we need is an American public who just changed his mind from tariffs or a problem to terrorist work so the big deal is China the big deal is

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so the big deal is China the big deal is getting a win that changes how people think about the potential of tariffs because up until now besides were split and people saying oh you know tariffs are always a bad idea tariffs are just a tax on consumers and all that’s true in some way in some way but as a threat they work really well if if you’re talking about tariffs as a long-term situation well that could have a lot of problems and it could create winners and losers that are accidental and none of that’s good but as a threat as a threat it just looks like it works now so if you’re China do you think the United States is going to back down after a clean win with Terrace nope nope they better start thinking about making the deal because what’s not going to

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the deal because what’s not going to happen is the president having tariff success with Mexico and then somehow capitulating on China that’s not going to happen so that’s good news for the and also a fun new cycle I love that he gets this this sort of thing done on a Friday night and then the news has to just sort of live with us over the weekend there’s nothing that the anti pret anti-trump news at the press likes less than having a clean win for Trump on a Friday afternoon that’s terrible they’re like oh my whole weekend is ruined I’ve got nothing to talk about except this this win all right I’d like to suggest the following thought what would you say is the biggest resistance to President Trump if you were to name you know there are million things that people complain about but if you were to capture them as a summary what would be

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capture them as a summary what would be the summary for what the biggest critics of President Trump are concerned about him as a president his personality exactly somebody said in the comments his personality now I’m gonna take you forward in the future for a moment and you’re gonna laugh that I’m the first person who said this are you ready this is my promise to you you won’t have heard this before as soon as you hear it you’re gonna say oh damn you’re right and you might even laugh here’s the thought second term Trump second term Trump Trump in his second term doesn’t need to get reelected nor but here’s the important part in the part that I’ve now heard anybody ever mentioned before what do you do about Trump’s personality one is it is second term well first of all you’ve learned that it didn’t ruin

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you’ve learned that it didn’t ruin anything in the first term so that’s the first thing and that’s a pretty big deal but more importantly and here’s here’s the fun part whoever is president after Trump won’t be Trump in other words even if it’s another Republican it’s going to be somebody who’s probably nothing like Trump so the entire that’s being done to keep Trump from getting a second term won’t be necessary there will be something like capitulation now there won’t be any real there will be no importance of impeachment in the second term because you can just wait them out yeah somebody saying oh damn you’re right however however effective you think this president has been or will be for the entire first term second term Trump this

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entire first term second term Trump this world has never seen and it’s gonna be a thing of beauty now it’s gonna be a thing of beauty if you like his policies and what he does if you don’t it might be a bad four years but you can give up arguing about his personality you can give up talking about impeachment it’s gonna be deal time second term Trump is deal time look at China do you think China might be trying to wait him out try to try to get close to election day so they can get the best deal or something maybe but if it looks like Trump’s gonna get reelected easily and we might see polls that indicate that toward the election China’s just going to say we can’t wait four more years we can’t go eight years of fighting with this guy we need to deal second term Trump is going to be about 50% of stronger just in terms of being able to do stuff that’s good for the country

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do stuff that’s good for the country probably 50% stronger just an effectiveness I’m not talking about dictator bubble I think I think aren’t we over the dictator thing and that I don’t even hear the critics talk about it much is there anything we’ve seen so far from this president that really looks like anything could turn into a dictatorship I mean really the stories you hear are that Gary Cohen was taking documents off his desk so he didn’t accidentally sign them because Cohen didn’t want him to you know you hear about things he wanted to do that the that the AIDS and the you know his underlings are just wouldn’t do I mean you hear enough of those stories and even as effective as he is in some areas even as as accomplished as he is as president there’s nothing that even slightly looks like a dictator not even slightly so you’re gonna have a second term Trump who is definitely not crazy that will be obvious after four years of

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that will be obvious after four years of him definitely less provocative he already is this is the story that you haven’t yet seen as a headline but I think you would all agree that he is absolutely I’m sorry I just lost my thought because of a comment there well I’m sure I’ll get that back anyway second term Trump will be fun he will be far more effective yeah we know he’s not crazy we know he’s not going to be a dictator we know that his negotiation style tariffs North Korea they have they all work we’ve seen that there was a great article in Breitbart by Joel Pollak yesterday that I tweeted you can find that my my tweet page talking about how if you really looked at the United States relationships and Trump’s relationships in particular with world leaders it’s pretty much all good you know we got a little problem with

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know we got a little problem with Germany but those are productive kinds of problems you know we’re not going to have a big problem with Germany you know there’s no signs that that’s a problem and maybe there are things Germany ought to be doing a little bit differently such as funding NATO more so there is a productive kind of stress there but if you look at Japan great President Xi great you know he seems to be getting along with Great Britain at the moment France has had its you know little issues but McCrone was treated very well by the president first aid dinner so pretty much everything that people were afraid of about this president for the first term has been disproved so the second term is going to be a president who doesn’t have to run for every election wants to work for his legacy wants to make some deals and there isn’t just not as much reason to resist them because whoever runs after

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resist them because whoever runs after this is just not going to be Trump it’s gonna be some ordinary Republican running it’s an ordinary Democrat and who knows what that’s gonna look like alright enough about that I want to revisit a thought I had because it was one of the rare times that I would disagree with the person I called the smartest person in the world of all rafa I was watching his amazing interview with Joe Rogan if if you haven’t heard that yet you should listen to the podcast Joe Rogan talking tune evolved Rafa Conte it’s it’s in the last week or so that it was posted one of the things that navall says that I disagree with is that humans will always have the release for the foreseeable future will have the monopoly on creativity and their creativity and art and those sorts of things are things that machines won’t be able to match and what he points out is that what we talk about as artificial intelligence is really not that it’s

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intelligence is really not that it’s sort of a pattern recognition thing it can process very quickly but that it’s nowhere near the the qualities of a human mind now those statements were all true but there’s one gigantic blind spot then I think navall has in his thinking about this and I like to put this out there now I’d like to put some context on this which is that if you ever find yourself disagreeing with navall you’re probably wrong just keep that in mind so I’m going to disagree with navall right now about AI and human creativity at the same time I’m quite aware well I could really be wrong about this so I’ll presented Li let you be the decision maker now I talked about the value of having a talent stack which is having some experience you don’t have be an expert but experienced across broad fields because that gives you a different vision on everything if you

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different vision on everything if you can look at it through different windows you’ve learned economics you’ve learned communication you’ve learned persuasion whatever it is your package of skills the more of them you have the more accurately you can see reality I have a unique talent stack because I have spent time as a programmer a bad one but early in my career I did you know learn to cut mood and and so I understand a little bit about that world not enough to be a you know code and AI or something but I know the basics I also am a professional creator across a variety of fields so I’ve had best-selling books I I do Dilbert which is art you could you could argue that this is some form of art that I’m doing here at set and I’m probably one of the most productive creators you’ll experience because I create something every day and there’s a lot over the years so I believe that I have

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over the years so I believe that I have a unique perspective because of that strange combination of experiences and here’s my my proposal of what might be a blind spot for pretty much everybody talking about AI and it goes like this you think the reason we can’t create an AI that has a human mind potential is because we’re not smart enough yet to make a clever enough AI that’s so smart it can match humans that is not what’s happening what’s happening is we have not yet understood that humans are not smart in other words AI is trying to catch up to human smartness and and the smartest people in the world are saying wow I don’t know humans are up here machines are only up to here and we don’t really see how we could get there in really decades because we’re not even close

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decades because we’re not even close this is a complete misunderstanding of reality humans are already way below machines all of those things which we consider human are our flaws our errors can a machine be more human-like yes but only by making it have errors can we ever create an AI that would have enough errors that it could look like an idiot on Twitter yes how long would it take to create an AI that could tweet like a troll on on Twitter and nobody would know the difference well not decades not decades all right but here let’s talk about creativity oh and how about creating a a AI that has political opinions that are as good as

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political opinions that are as good as humans easy the AI would just say I will join the team okay I’m a Democrat now or I’m a Republican now it would look at the list of things that Republicans say the list of things that Democrats say it would just agree with it steam how is that not equal to human intelligence humans don’t look at the information and make decisions based on the data and the reasons all science confirms this we don’t we make your rational decisions that agree with our team or feel good or it’s based on our lack of knowledge that’s how we make decisions there’s nothing like superior intelligence that’s happening none of that’s happening it’s us being flailing animals who rationalize our decisions that are irrational after the fact now let’s creativity is this specific question here now here’s the thing how hard would it be to get a machine that

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hard would it be to get a machine that could make a great piece of art well I just told you before we started this that I’m one of the most productive famous successful creators in the planet you know if you were just looking at the success of Dilbert the books etc and here’s what I’m gonna tell you a lot of it is luck how many things have I created that didn’t work a lot if you were to look at all the things I’ve created that were successful at some commercial level it’s very very little for example creating Dilbert was sort of an original you know idea and that worked but once you’ve created Dilbert I apply sort of a formula to it I take people’s real life experiences I put them into the humor formula I use the characters I’ve created at this point

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characters I’ve created at this point it’s more of a craft meaning that there are steps and rules and you know they’re they’re their rules to follow that’s all programmable but the initial idea of Dilbert a machine could do as long as that machine could be wrong as often as I am that’s the key here’s the part that navall may have a blind spot for because he has not been you know an artistic creator per se for his life whereas I have well I know is how often I can’t create what I know is how often I’m wrong what others say is how often I’m right because you don’t see my mistakes you don’t see all the things I created that I tried and launched them didn’t work you know there was this idea Dilbert was sort of one good idea that managed to be reproducible and extendable but it was sort of one good idea could a I create a bunch of ideas of

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could a I create a bunch of ideas of which a thousand of them are bad but one of them that can sort of a B test quickly maybe maybe with people and find the one out of a thousand that people say whoa that’s great yes yes eh I can do that and it’s not a giant leap so the big thing is you have to understand that the best creators in the world are wrong almost all the time you know the greatest painter in the world is not making a masterpiece with every painting that’s not happening they might make one masterpiece and then people will say I like these other ones too because they’re same person then there’s something good about them but I’ll bet if the first masterpiece didn’t happen the other art wouldn’t look so good in other words you’re looking at chance and a be testing and you’re imagining it’s something magic there’s no magic to creativity its iteration until something

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creativity its iteration until something works machines can iterate until something works and they can do a better by you know ten years from now you’re gonna have a headset that measures how you respond to things you’re gonna look at a screen and the screen is gonna start randomly creating art some of it might be abstract art some of it might be landscapes and that sensor on your head is gonna go beep beep beep when it hits something that you liked and then it’s gonna say uh something in this realm seems valuable let me keep reiterating beep beep beep oh he likes it when there’s a picture of a landscape it’s not abstract and it’s its mountains beep beep beep let’s try some different design we’ll put the tree over here we’ll put the bit we’ll make the sky a little more blue let’s add a cloud beep beep beep the best painting that will ever be made here’s my prediction to wrap it all up someday could be in 10 years easily in 10 years the best

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years easily in 10 years the best painting ever made will be made by AI because it will know what people want and it will rapidly a be test its way to something that’ll make you fall off your freakin chair it will be so beautiful you will get goosebumps no human will be able to come close to what the AI will be able to do in art in 10 years all right so there’s that now there’s also the human experience that would see the human experience that artists take to the art but robots can do that simply by you know querying people finding out what they care about looking at what they’re writing bound at cetera so that’s my disagreement and I will make I’ll make a bet that in ten years there will be an AI painting that will move you so much

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AI painting that will move you so much that you won’t believe the humans where ever you know we’re ever good at it that will be my bet all right there’s hey there was a great tweet from human progress I think that’s the group where they have just lots of good news if they report on and I like to tweet that was because it makes me feel good but they talked about the fact that there’s no conflict in the Western Hemisphere for the first time in human history think about that the entire western hemisphere has no wars just let that sink in for a minute the entire western hemisphere has no wars Thank You United States I mean a lot of people have a lot to do with it now somebody’s saying Venezuela and as well as not a war it’s not a shooting war it’s not a good situation but it’s also not a

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good situation but it’s also not a shooting war now the exception here is the drug war and the cartels that stuff still violent but there’s not a nation war you know even Venezuela does not really have a nation that’s fighting against it they have an internal problem just thinking about that it’s amazing but one of my favorite stories today is that the the recommendation to walk 10,000 steps a day has always been fake news turns out there’s no science behind the idea that people should walk 10,000 steps a day the the best a researcher could come up with is that the reason it came up with that the 10,000 is that there is some symbol for 10,000 and I think Japanese characters that the character or the way you draw it looks like a little stick figure trying to walk so because there’s a stick figure character stick figure looking character in Japanese lettering and language they

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Japanese lettering and language they said oh that the the symbol for 10,000 looks like a person walking let’s go with that so there’s never been any science to that which is hilarious to me now let’s talk about how to profit from political disagreements I’m gonna throw out a concept and I want you to think about it to take it to the next level so it’s a it’s a beginning concept and goes like this so first of all for those of you don’t know my background is you know I studied economics at school I got an MBA MBA I’ve always been steeped in business models and and you know how do you make money so sort of most of my experiences in either you take a situation and turn it into something that could make a profit and when I look at the current news silo’s I say to myself there is a real inefficiency here and whenever you

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real inefficiency here and whenever you have a serious inefficiency often not every time but quite often more often than usual that inefficiency creates it an income opportunity you just have to figure it out alright let me throw a suggestion just so you get the sense in it wouldn’t you say it is true that’s something that becomes common knowledge in one silo is often invisible to the other side but it’s not quite equal meaning that the people on the political right conservatives typically are aware of all the arguments and the thinking that’s on the other side but it doesn’t work the other way people on the Left seem not to be as aware of things on the political right that’s an inefficient which should if we’re smart enough create an opportunity for profit you

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create an opportunity for profit you should be able to let’s say it in an analogy way to create an arbitrage of some kind because knowledge tends to be valuable and if it’s if it’s not evenly distributed you should be able to take advantage of that inequality of knowledge let me give you one suggestion now you will recognize this as self-serving but you’re still gonna laugh right this is all self-serving I mentioned that my that my startup as a token that’s number one traded token in terms of volume on on its exchange at hot bit I hope and you can also buy them at Wayne hub calm just with a credit card if you like the easy approach but here’s the thing if I already asked conservatives have you heard of the when the answer would be there’s a good chance because people have heard of me they’ve watched my periscope they seen my tweets so there’s a pretty good chance the half of the world or a good

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chance the half of the world or a good percentage of them have heard of this when token it’s unlikely that the people on the right are as aware so imagine if you will the people on the right bought them either because they’re supporting creators who’ve got D platforms so one of my suggestions was I could gift a bunch of when tokens to a creator that gets D platformed or let’s say D monetize not D platformed somebody gets demonetized for reasons that we recognize as illegitimate the tokens are not worth it they’re not worth much in the beginning so they wouldn’t cost me much to give them away so I could give a bunch of tokens to a Dave Rubin or a or a steven crowder or something like that and then people on the right could say oh I’ll do that too now what would happen if a bunch of people on the right bought when tokens well they would go up just like they did when Eric finiman said good things about them they went to

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said good things about them they went to the top of the hot bit I Oh trading lists now as soon as that when goes up in value it starts crossing over to the other the other silo because people who were trading crypto are all over the place there are conservatives there are liberals but they’re going to see it on on the exchange so the Liberals are going to see it for the first time on the exchange and when they start buying it because there’s they see momentum and it seems to be moving the people on the right have already made their money so in other words you could actually find a way to transfer money from the political left to the political right simply by buying an asset before the people on the Left are aware that it’s something they should buy so that lack of awareness in theory and again this is I’m not saying you should do this necessarily because and let me save clearly any purchases of crypto of any kind whether it’s the win or something else is not an investment

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or something else is not an investment you should not think of it as an investment all right I want to make clear and I’m not giving you financial advice there’s no financial advice I’m describing cause and effect and supply and demand so if there’s a limited supply of this token which there are because they’re limited it’s limited by creation so we can’t make more of them if the people on the right buy them first and that creates attention the people on the Left will say hey what’s all this happening and they’ll buy some because there’s attention on it and then the people on the right make a lot of money all right now that’s just one example but I’ll bet you can think of other ones they have nothing to do with crypto in which this difference in knowledge that’s temporary there’s people on the right learn everything and then it takes a long time to get over to the other side you could probably take advantage of that and so if anybody has are the other ideas that would be great so when hub comm is where the when is purchased or you could get it at bet

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purchased or you could get it at bet Diet IO as a exchange all right let’s talk about the slippery slope I probably have gotten more heat for this for this than just about anything else and it’s the idea that if the platform’s start banning the people who are that let’s say the most provocative voices that there’s a slippery slope and really the entire the the real plan is to get rid of mainstream conservative voices and that it’s going in that direction and I’ve said the slippery slope is not a real thing because there are always counter forces that pop up to stop it there are natural counter forces I think we’re seeing that now so you saw that YouTube at first demonetised steven crowder and it didn’t look like there was some easy way for him to reverse that there was lots of pressure so the internet and conservatives and people of anybody who loved free speech complained

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anybody who loved free speech complained they complained and what did YouTube do they blinked so YouTube said well okay okay maybe it won’t be that bad will will let you monetize steven crowder if all you do is get rid of one link to one t-shirt that we find online now whether or not Crowder does that ever or whether or not he doesn’t sooner or later he is less relevant to the point which is he now has a way to monetize so in other words the slippery slope hit a wall with Crowder that’s what always happens in other words there’s always they’re always going to push until there’s an obstacle that comes up and this 8lu it’s not that stop Crowder is still demonetized yes until he removes that link my understanding that into all the details but the point is that Crowder was the obstacle he was

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is that Crowder was the obstacle he was an overreach apparently Infowars was not an overreach in terms of this slippery slope so that was sort of an easy one for the platforms to get rid of and even people who like him would say there was that thing he said that time that even even I don’t like even if you like him personally and I do like him personally by the way he’s been very nice to me talking about Alex Jones Alex Jones as a person he’s a great guy things he said you could certainly disagree with them and and quite vigorously in many cases anyway so they think the slippery slope has been disproved by this experience people pushed until they had aligned and then that line became a wall all right let’s talk about systems / goals I often talk about this my book had a failed almost everything and still win big introduced this idea that having a goal can be limiting because there might be a lot of

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limiting because there might be a lot of things that you want I got to do something about my cat hold on a second my cats decided to leave all my papers on my desk it’s gonna get it’s gonna be a mess boo say hi all right so systems / goals goals are limited because there might be a number of ways to get rich there might be a number of ways to have a happy family life happy relationship so you don’t want to limit your goal tool though this is one way it’s just this one way that I’ll be happy so first of all widen your ambitions because there are lots of ways to be happy and the system is something you do on a regular basis so you don’t know exactly where it’s gonna shake out but it’s having in the right direction it creates a situation where luck can find you so let me tell you what system I use to make sure that that de monetization and shadow banning doesn’t go too far the

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shadow banning doesn’t go too far the system is this whenever I am confronted with something that looks like shadow painting something on social media that reminds me of it looks like throttling somebody’s complaining or any suggestion that I or other people who are otherwise good good citizens online are being demonetized or throttled my system which I’ve just started this is brand new is that that day I will go and I’ll make it one post on a competing platform now in this in the case of Twitter the competing platform would be parlor or gab so yesterday I saw things that look like some kind of you know at least I can’t confirm but it looks like I’m Ronald or yeah there may be some issues and and some AJ Cortez for example seems to be shadow banned at the moment so

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to be shadow banned at the moment so because I was reminded of that my system is Oh every time one reminded that this is happening and there’s some evidence for it even if I can’t prove it because if you can’t prove it that’s a problem too because you can’t disprove it so every time that happens I go to my phone and I open up parlor and I make a post now what I’ve done is I’ve weaponized a shadow banner so every time there’s something that looks like shadow banning real or imagined and this is important it doesn’t have to be real it only has to look like it that’s important don’t be stopped by whether it’s real or not if you’re if you’re reminded of it go post on the alternate because that would be enough to keep the alternate platforms in business so the system is that every day you’re sending traffic over to essentially create a a free market competition because there’s none

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market competition because there’s none happening or else there wouldn’t be this shadow bailing or at least not as much so that’s one system here’s my best idea I’ve ever had you ready for this here’s how to use a system instead of a goal to reduce mass shootings now when you talk about guns and mass shootings there are certain absolutes that you have to have for your any plan or else your plan will go nowhere so here’s a suggestion for reducing mass gun violence and I’ll make you this promise it will have nothing to do with anybody’s access to guns are you okay because before I talk about this you automatically think he’s gonna limit my gun access somehow there’s gonna be a new law no laws no changes to laws okay so that’s the first thing no change to laws no change zero change to access to guns Second Amendment completely completely already

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Amendment completely completely already now somebody saying gun registry no here’s the second part no loss of privacy so two things my idea will have zero loss of privacy the government will know nothing else about you okay the government will not learn anything new about you with this plan I’m going to describe and no access to guns will be denied even in an indirect way not in the slightest way will it affect your Second Amendment or your privacy here we go and this is why a system is better than a goal if you’re thinking about a goal you’re thinking guns take them away right goals goals take you to these specific little places you think about that can be that can be traps here’s an idea you’ve never heard goes like this number one can social media with some kind of AI and algorithms can they

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kind of AI and algorithms can they determine something special about the activity of people who are likely to become shooters I say yes I think if they studied all of the language and activity and images and postings and social media and maybe emails that they have access to they could identify someone who’s getting ready to maybe potentially be a shooter would you all agree that that’s probably true that you probably could identify people who are getting ready now it might be simple things such as they talk about shooter games they post a picture of a gun they the you know they they favorite something there’s some violence in it they you know they they favorite something discussing bad you have Nazi stuff in it whatever so I think we agree that if the social media platform has wanted to they could identify these people here’s the cool part do you know what’s really complicated they’re algorithms the

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complicated they’re algorithms the algorithms of what the social media companies are feeding to people are so complicated that I believe even they don’t know what they’re feeding to whom right this is important for the privacy part I don’t believe that the social media companies that have any kind of a database that says ok we fed we fed these ads and this content to this person and if they did they wouldn’t care because I’m not sure that they care about what one person looked at they’re looking at averages so first thing is a program that can identify people who are likely to become mass shooters the second part is automatically and without any human involvement and without any identification of the people involved that are being potentially radicalized the algorithm by itself D radicalizes them in other words if somebody is in a mood to do a shooting and has been detected by the system no humans have

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detected by the system no humans have been involved right there’s nobody that’s a social media company who knows the name of the person that the that the AI is identifying the AI does not talk to people this is the key the AI does not print a report it doesn’t tell you who these people are you simply feeds it to their incredibly complicated algorithm and then the algorithm starts deprogramming automatically no human involvement D programs the shooter how do you deprogram somebody well a variety of ways and we could probably find this out through testing over time one of those ways might be to send them resources they need they might need a suicide you know advisory they might need friends the algorithm might actually help them find a friend they might need to see images of kindness and generosity and things which

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kindness and generosity and things which would at least give them some little bit of freedom they might need to be on meds they might need they might need to know there are people just like them who have been helped by getting you know say an antidepressant there might be a knowledge gap there might be a friendship gap a connection gap a gap in meaning or simply a gap of what inputs are coming into their head so that’s my idea nobody takes away your gun nobody ever learns who you are it’s an AI talking to an algorithm that’s feeding different content to the recipient tell me that’s not the best idea you’ve ever heard for at least in the realm of gun control it’s not the best idea in the world yeah right all problems are solved nobody has the gun taken away nobody loses their privacy you let the Machine do it and

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privacy you let the Machine do it and you know where did this idea come from well the idea comes from the fact that the social media companies presumably can do the same technique to bias political outcomes so if the social media companies can use their algorithm to bias political outcomes they can certainly buy us other things and if you can unbiased somebody who’s on the edge of being dangerous you wouldn’t get them all you know it doesn’t it doesn’t solve anything you know it doesn’t solve the whole problem but I’ll better take a bite out of it all right that is my best idea of the day I think I’m gonna what time is it yeah okay somebody’s saying yes somebody says it has the potential to be misused it doesn’t have the potential to be misused it’s already misused there’s no question

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it’s already misused there’s no question in my mind yeah again there’s a smoking gun but you know maybe the gun was on fire you I could easily be fooled by confirmation bias etc but it seems to be fairly obvious that the social media companies are already putting their finger on the scale as I hate to say but there’s no better analogy yeah and so we already know it works or at least we know that they think it works and they’re pretty smart there are no mass shootings at inner-city schools ask yourself why I know why does anybody not know why there are no shootings at inner-city schools I hate to say it but it feels like the vast majority of shooters are young white men and they’re just fewer them that inner-city schools so for whatever

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that inner-city schools so for whatever reason it seems to be limited to a certain demographic and I don’t know how to I don’t know why exactly alright that’s all for now I’m gonna go try to enjoy my birthday and I will talk to you later