Episode 542 Scott Adams: Find Out Why Trump Has NO Chance of Reelection (Unless Something Changes)

Date: 2019-05-26 | Duration: 1:06:14

Topics

Anti-Trumpers convincing themselves he WANTS to be impeached Not likely he wants impeachment on his Presidential record CNN home page, news…or mind reading? Using the wrong words to describe things…to CREATE news President Trump’s “Bidan” tweet about Joe being called “low IQ” Chairman Kim, a friend, mocking President Trump’s rival Breitbart article, my Episode 540 video about Trump’s 2020 chances The caveat is…IF nothing changes, President Trump can’t win Social media has a stranglehold and time to perfect persuasion BBC video immersing viewer in WWI trench warfare “They Shall Not Grow Old” Voiceovers of the actual words from WWI military volunteers Pre-Suasion, by Cialdini tells us what will happen in the 2020 election Social media controls the order in which you see things The persuasion influence is subtle and VERY powerful Pelosi slurring videos, we don’t know all the facts Some videos NOT doctored, some WERE doctored NO video, from ANY source…can be trusted, in today’s world Nancy Pelosi is “not the same”, per President Trump Persuasive, gives people a concept…lets them fill in the blanks Deep Fakes now so good, they did it with a painting A single screenshot of a person can be used for Deep Fakes Facebook labeled the doctored, Pelosi slurring video as fake…left it up Anderson Cooper wants it taken down, cause it’s persuasive Facebook has created a standard 1. De-Emphasize content they decide is doctored 2. Label the content as doctored If key context is left out of a video, isn’t that “doctored”? Proposal: A “national pardon” for all platforms, for all banned Ban someone forever…for something they did in their 20s? Second chances are important, people need a chance to improve Judge people by their responses to their mistakes Mistakes are NOT intentional How a person RESPONDS to their mistakes…IS intentional Their response is what reveals the person Buzzfeed out of context hit piece on Tony Robbins Buzzfeed should be shut down for that article alone FALSE: Pictures don’t lie, video doesn’t lie TRUTH: All pictures lie, all video lies TRUTH: Things taken out of context…are lies

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bum bum bum bum bum bum hey everybody come on in here yeah it's time for coffee with Scott Adams guess who I am that's right Scott Adams what a beautiful beautiful day to be alive and if you're not alive it's still a beautiful day you just don't know it would you please join me in the simultaneous symp this will require you to have a cup or a mug or glass possibly tankers Diane or chalice maybe a thermos or a flask fill it with your favorite liquid I like coffee and join me now for the unparalleled pleasure that I like to call the simultaneous sip good stuff well we've got some excellent Trump news today it's the best kind of news isn't it
it isn't it always entertaining when the news is about Trump have you ever had an unending day when the headlines were something Trump doesn't even matter what

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something Trump doesn't even matter what the topic is it's always interesting and today is no difference all right here are some of my favorite news headlines I guess my favorite one is some folks on the anti Trump crowd are saying that Trump now wants to be impeached
so the anti Trump errs are and this is sort of mind-boggling they're actually they're talking themselves they're talking themselves into believing that the president somehow is trying to cleverly trap them into trying to impeach him because it will be politically good for him I barely know what to say about that because there there are some things you could say that are just true all the smart people agree that it would be a stupid idea for the Democrats to impeach

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stupid idea for the Democrats to impeach because it would good for Trump based on past experience I'm less convinced that past experience is as predictive as people think but I will acknowledge that all the smart people say that it would be unwise for them to go at my Beach but is that the same thing as saying that the president wants to be a beached honestly I you know I can't read the president's mind but if the president is consistent with seventy however many years of life if he's the same person he was a month ago and he's the same person he was two months ago when two years ago and 20 years ago if he's still Donald Trump now President Trump unless he's been body-snatched unless he's been his

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been body-snatched unless he's been his body has been taken over by aliens who have different minds unless he's turned into a different person he doesn't want impeachment on his presidential record now again I'm not a mind reader I'm not a mind reader so I suppose I could be wrong but in order for me to be wrong he would have have to somehow it turned into a different person for no compelling reason there's nothing really that would have caused him to turn into a different person so the fact that the mostly Democrats the anti-trump are are actually entertaining that as if that could legitimately be a real thing he's thinking like oh I sure hope they impeach me no idiots you could not be Dumber if you really believed that if you really believe that this president wants impeachment on his permanent presidential record you don't

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permanent presidential record you don't even know who he is it's like you've never seen a story about him you've never read your own articles about him that is so completely an onion vigorously ridiculous that when I see it being talked as that we yes I think we figured out his strategy now hohoho president Trump you think you're clever but we're one step ahead of you one step ahead of you we figured out that you really you really want to be stained with one of the worst things that you could have on your presidential record hahaha we figured you haven't it's it's just mind-boggling that anybody thinks that you would want that none nevertheless it is true that if it happened it would be good for him but nobody wants that alright here are some of the words on CNN's home page and the articles linked

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CNN's home page and the articles linked to it today these are the types of words that they use when they talk about President Trump here's the list temper tantrum storms and of meetings tirade pathetic childish impotent and of course the all-time favorite got under his skin Nancy Pelosi got under his skin now does any of that sound like news or does it sound like mind-reading let me read it again does news or mind-reading temper tantrum well that's sort of an opinion and it goes to what he's thinking right because I doubt that his exterior mannerism looked anything like a temper tantrum you know when you imagine what a temper tantrum looks like do you imagine that anything like that even remotely happened in that meeting I don't think so well have a things in storms out of

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so well have a things in storms out of eating what's the difference between walking end of a meeting at the normal pace in which you walk in a meetings versus storming out is this CNN does this all the time and they're not the only ones but they they try to turn nothing into news by using the wrong word to diss right things so if somebody walked out of a meeting they'll turn that into stormed out if somebody has a difference of opinion they'll say it was a tirade he lost it he lost his cool he was acting childish and impotent in his mind he was he was very insecure yes yes yes that's why it's not that he just has a different opinion it's that he's insecure it's all just mind lead mind reading and horoscopes all right so here's my favorite bit of news the

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here's my favorite bit of news the president tweeted from Japan where he's meeting with obey and and others on trade and here's his tweet this morning Trump says North Korea fired off some small weapons which disturbed some of my people and others but not me I have confidence the chairman Kim will keep his promise to me and also smiled when he called us wealth man Joe Biden which he spelled wrong he spelled Biden bi T am he actually misspelled Biden [Laughter] intentional not intentional does it matter doesn't matter I'll read this again also smiled when he meaning chairman Kim called swampman Joe Biden a low IQ individual and worse perhaps that's sending me a signal excavation work I love everything about this tweet

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work I love everything about this tweet so persuasion wise this is very good work which will of course be completely unappreciated by people who don't know anything about persuasion when the president says that he's not disturbed by these small actions by Kim and he says the Chairman Kim will keep his promise to me that's the powerful part of the tweet the president is making it very clear that this is a personal relationship with somebody he respects and kind of likes it's clear that he likes Kim and by the way I think that's real I I think I think it's real the Kim and Trump like each other I don't think any of that is is false I think that's actually real so so he's talking essentially in the tweet he's talking to his buddy Kim and he's saying he'll keep

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his buddy Kim and he's saying he'll keep his promise to me that doesn't mean that his belief is that he will necessarily keep his promise it means that by saying that he's sort of putting his friend and his the honor of his friend on the line he's also saying isn't it funny that my friend is mocking my competitor Joe Biden and none of and you shouldn't take any of it too seriously now the fact that he's playing this whole thing off as something you shouldn't take too seriously it's just something happening among friends there's a little locker room talk about Joe Biden there's nothing going on here that's important I think is perfect because he's trying to take the tension off which is always good when you're talking about nuclear powers he's trying to put it in context it's all just good locker room fun it's just words and the only thing that matters is that Kim will be honorable when dealing with Trump so everything's fine it's

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with Trump so everything's fine it's really good framing taking something that sounded kind of dangerous and just completely just missing it because that is actually the best strategy I would imagine now I'm assuming here that there's not more going on in North Korea that I don't know about if there is and that's a different situation all right
there's a Breitbart article about me this morning and I've told you this I guess it came out yesterday and I've told you this before that I'm my weirdworld is that if I talk about politics sometimes I end up becoming part of the story so that happened in this situation again so bright Bart's article is about my my periscope yesterday I guess in which I said that the president has zero chance of winning under the current situation the current situation being that the social media platforms have figured out

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social media platforms have figured out since 2016 had it be more effective and almost certainly they can swing the election and I'll talk about that a little bit more detail but so now there's a big article on it now to be clear when I say that when I said in the article and what I said in periscope that the president has zero chance of winning reelection the caveat is if nothing changes but things always change so it's not a prediction it's a it's a steady state observation that if nothing changed from current conditions he couldn't win and I'm saying that because social media is so rigged against him and there's no counter force that the the social media companies will simply move the few people who can be persuaded one way or the other that's all it will take it doesn't take many people to be persuaded now of course the president

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persuaded now of course the president has you know gigantic weapons on his side and yes an electorate which is very very incented before the most part those things were all going to happen anyway the hardcore supporters were going to support it no matter what the people who disliked him we're gonna dislike him no matter what and there's this little little sliver of people who could be persuaded that will be persuaded by the social media companies because they control that let's talk about that more let me give you some context first one of the things that people said to me when I made my controversial statement that social media is now running the country because they'll decide how the undecideds vote
people said to me well Scott I think you're overreacting or overstating it because we've always had fake news it used to be newspapers but it's always been fake news there have always been masters of the universe who were you know pulling the puppet strings so now

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know pulling the puppet strings so now it's social media used to be newspapers at one point it was television but it's no different there's always somebody's and pulling those strings but I'd like to make some contrasts and before I do that I'd like to recommend that you watch something by the BBC that's brand new came out and it's a documentary called they shall not grow old and it's about British soldiers signing up and going to fight in World War one it is one of the most interesting things you'll ever see in your life because what they did was they took a bunch of black-and-white video from World War one and they colorized it and they they brought it to life with digital effects and it brings you right into the trenches so it starts out with this black and white footage where you're really watching it as an observer it's just these grainy black-and-white pictures and they're and they're only square they're not even HD format and so

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square they're not even HD format and so the first several minutes is watching those and you're not very engaged because it's just black and white it's there's like a distance between you the the viewer and the image and then suddenly it goes color and it goes widescreen and you feel yourself just go you get pulled right into it and from that point on you're in the war I mean you're in the trench you're looking at it just like you're there and yeah it is so good that I don't recommend you watch it for more than a few minutes because it's so disturbing I actually got I guess I would call it like pre PTSD you know obviously nothing like what you would actually get if you were in a war but you could feel yourself being mentally disturbed to the point of permanent damage ten minutes into this documentary it's so powerful that you should probably not watch it to the end because there's so

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watch it to the end because there's so the images are so disturbing you you really should not watch the whole thing but you should watch a little bit and the part you should watch in particular is the opening where they have voiceovers that are I can't tell if the voiceovers are read by actors who are looking at the written word or if it's actually the old people themselves recorded when they are still alive from world war Wanek I can't tell if they're real but it's the real words of the people and here's the thing that just blew me away and the first five minutes when you listen to the actual words of the young people who signed up signed up volunteered keyword volunteered to enter World War one the most you know or at least one of the most horrible experiences you can ever have those people those young men were happy they yeah the the name of it again if you're

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yeah the the name of it again if you're if you want to watch it is that they shall not grow old and the BBC is I guess they funded it but if you listen to the people talk almost all of them had the same approach which is they thought joining joining the army to fight in World War one they thought would be fun and easy you almost can't hear those words when I say them because it doesn't make any sense that's right there were a bunch of young people and apparently people were signing up as young as 50 and they just had to lie about their age because they didn't have ID so most of them were like 17 to 19 even though you had to be 19 people younger than that was signed up but I was blown away by how brainwashed these people were not only were they

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these people were not only were they brainwashed to think that joining up for World War and fighting in a trench war would be a good time like literally they thought it would be fun adventure and exciting and they believed that since the British were so powerful militarily that they would just dispatch the Germans it's it's all a big adventure people come back and say hey had a good time and the people who survived because those are the ones that we're talking about it after the fact actually said they were glad they went and it was a good experience it's mind boggling how brainwashed they were now somebody say they're not brainwashed its duty and honor no no it was not duty and honor there was duty and honor as important variables but that's the part that I'm making making my strongest point that it wasn't just duty and honor those things

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wasn't just duty and honor those things mattered there was a real that was part of the story but when he hear it in their own words they don't use those words they said it would be an adventurer it'd be fun they did say fight for the country they did say the country's been good to me but a lot of it was my job is boring my friends are going it looks like an adventure looks like a good time oh my god when you hear the level of brainwashing in World War one it's mind-boggling so in fact I would recommend that you stop watching it after you get after the voiceovers are done because that's the interesting part the rest is fascinating was so disturbing it could actually damage you for the rest of your life and that's not an exaggeration what I saw will stay with me for the rest of my life and I don't want it I wish I had not seen it frankly and I only watched the first quarter of it maybe but my point here is

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quarter of it maybe but my point here is that people were deeply and thoroughly brainwashed in Great Britain before World War one so brainwashing is not new it's not something that's just happening because of social media companies but here's what's different here's what's different the technology for brainwashing is way better because we can give specific messages to specific people and we've learned a lot since then about how to do it if you haven't seen this book you don't understand what's gonna happen in the next election this book is called pre suasion it's a follow up by Robert at chill Dini to his gigantic vessel or influence this one is the one that is scariest because it talks about how you can prime somebody by the message or the image or the the thought that you give them before the thought that you're trying to convince them of in other words you could give

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them of in other words you could give them a completely unrelated priming thought and it will have a huge impact on how they make a decision on an unrelated thing how scary is that because if you're a social media company you have control over what order people see things do you see it yet social media gives you control in other words the platform owners can control the order that you see things that's what the algorithms are the order that you see things this book if you haven't read it you don't understand what's coming in 2020 if you think that there's anything like a fair election coming you're really wrong because this technology in other words this this scientific knowledge gives them the power to feed the undecideds information in the order that they want so it's not just that they're de-emphasizing some messages and

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they're de-emphasizing some messages and emphasizing others which is a big deal it's the order that it comes in that will be the influential part if you don't understand that you've given up your republic you've abandoned any democratic principles you've given all of your power to the people who can decide what order you see things in because that's we'll make your decision the order that you see things now I'm simplified a little bit but it's the larger the larger issue is that we know exactly how to influence people in ways that could never have done before somebody asked for an example so I shall give you one the classic example that comes from the book is that if you show somebody images of an American flag that's the priming thought there's no persuasion it's just an American flag hey here's an American flag look at this and then if the very next thing you do is ask them to vote

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next thing you do is ask them to vote Republican or debt people will more likely vote Republican if they just saw a flag did you know that if you didn't know that you're helpless you're living in in a system that is manipulating you now even the experts would not have known that in advance they know it but from testing they know it from you know accidental discoveries that they then confirm now that's just an example let me give you another example suppose you wanted to convince somebody to be generous on a specific question one of the ways you could do that is to show a story of something completely unrelated where somebody did something kind and generous even though it's a different topic different people completely unrelated from whatever you're talking about if the very next thing that happens is you ask somebody to be generous they're far more likely to be

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generous they're far more likely to be generous because they got primed to by the prior image see how powerful this is this is this is very repeatable very measurable very scientific so that's the situation we have that things can be controlled - entirely by the platforms now let's talk about let's let's talk about the Pelosi video because this this is all sort of related now all right this is all one discussion under one umbrella of influence here's what I loved about president Trump's persuasion play with tweeting out the video that was a compilation clip of Pelosi slurring her words or stammering now there's a weird fog of war over this whole topic and I don't quite know the facts but my main point

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quite know the facts but my main point is neither do you most of you think you do know the facts and I'm gonna as the comments go by you're gonna see people give you lots of incorrect facts I'll tell you what I think I know but the main point is that I cannot determine the facts with the amount of work I'm willing to put into it and probably you don't know the facts but you might think you do so I would say put a little pin in this and say to yourself I think I know the facts but I probably don't here's the problem there is more than one video and people are talking about the more than one videos as if they're sort of the same without without making the distinction so apparently there's a there's a compilation video that the president tweeted which may have been simply uploaded in a different frame rate it might have been intentionally slowed down the reporting is unclear at

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slowed down the reporting is unclear at the same time and separately there is another compilation in which it very clearly has been slowed down so there's one video that has clearly slowed down a compilation of her offer miss speaking I guess and in that one she clearly sounds drunk and it's obvious that the thing has been doctored they're saying it's been doctored the presidents may or may not have been doctored or it may or may not have been uploaded in a way that makes it sound different but it may or may not have been intentional so the first caution I would give you is that whenever you hear any story or any comment about the situation people are not necessarily talking about the same videos and I can't tell whose so the New York Times for example showed the two videos next to each other and said this is president Trump's video here's the other one and if you look at

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here's the other one and if you look at them together you can see that they're quite different and you can see that the one that seems to be doctored does look like she sounds worse than that one but here's the problem do you trust the New York Times to show you the actual doctored one and to show you the one that President Trump tweeted and that both of them are actually the videos the he tweeted you know one is the actual real one and one is the actual thing he tweeted do you trust the New York Times to put them together and pick the right ones and say this is really the one no you don't you cannot trust them in fact you can't trust any video from any source we don't live in that world anymore now I'm not saying that they lied an essay is wrong I'm saying that there's no credibility from any source on any video we don't live in that world

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on any video we don't live in that world anymore you simply can't believe it no matter where it comes from so that's the first thing does it matter that the president doesn't matter whether the video is you know accentuated to make her look bad yes it does because if you ever saw the one that's the fake is hard to get it out of your head I'm going to talk about that a little bit more but let me tell you what the president did right in his persuasion now if you're looking at this situation I think it's always fair to look at it in several layers there's a political layer the how effective is the persuasion layer there's the ethical layer I will trust you to understand that I'm only talking about the persuasion layer ethics matter ethics exist but that's the separate conversation and you can make your own decisions on that I'm not your Pope persuasion wise what the president started with before he tweeted this he said that Nancy

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he said that Nancy he is clearly quote not the same now that is a brilliant framing when when the president says hey it's you know something's different she's not the same I'm muting all the people who complain about the sound by the way so I'll never see them again because I think most of the money or trolls so when he said they're not the same that is a hypnosis technique you want to you want to make claims that are not so specific that people have reasons not to believe them so by simply saying she's not the same everybody can read into it their own preferred explanation of why she's not the same so when you hear the president say Nancy Pelosi well I know she's not the same somebody hears she's too old somebody here she's tired somebody or she's drunk somebody ears she has a mental disease are any of

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she has a mental disease are any of those things true I don't know probably not but it doesn't matter because the the technique is if you give somebody a general a general area to think about they will fill in the details that are most persuasive to them so the way that you can the way that you can persuade people that are all who are all different is by giving them a general persuasion and let them fill in the details that's what he did if he had said Pelosi sounds drunk then we would be arguing whether or not she had a drink we would decide that she had not and it would be bad persuasion it would just look like a lie if he had said I think she has a mental problem we would it would probably be some reporting on that people would say that's a terrible thing to say they would say it's not true look at her as this other day we'd probably decide it wasn't true and we say well it's just a lie but by saying

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say well it's just a lie but by saying she's not the same he says something that you understand to be true because nobody's the same at that age so at the very least she's all other than she used to be right so he says something that's unambiguously true she's not the same and then you fill it in with whatever is the worst thing you can imagine about why that's true here's the other thing she did you did this great it's it is a visual he tweeted around something that's visual and you know and you can listen to it so there's an audio version there's an audio element to the video element so that's good persuasion you get as many as many of the senses involved as you can
can that's better than if it's just a concept somebody's reading about so so that's true secondly there's something called the uncanny valley I've talked about before and it's the theory that if something looks like a human being but not quite it's disturbing it's like deeply

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it's disturbing it's like deeply disturbing to people that's why zombies are so scary they look like people but they're not quite people that's why there's scary if people anytime you see a robot that doesn't look exactly like a person it's sort of creepy right now when you see the Pelosi video whether whether you just see the compilation which is bad enough where they take the worst parts of her you know extended speaking and they take all the worst parts and put them together in a compilation she doesn't quite look like a regular person and if you see the slowdown or a quote doctored version of it it's even worse she doesn't quite look like a human being is supposed to look they're not quite you supposed to sound like that talk like that or act like that and it's actually gross like it creeps you out to watch it that is

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it creeps you out to watch it that is unbelievably strong persuasion if you can creep somebody out about the thing you're trying to discourage that is a home run getting creeped out by something is you can't come back from that nobody gets creeped out by something and then recovers it's like a one-way trip once you creep down that's you're gonna see that forever so that was strong persuasion again not talking about whether that was ethical because I think you can make your own decisions on that but it was strong now the other thing that the President did cleverly is there's a three-day weekend with no real interesting news otherwise so he he drops this this this flaming you know bag of you know what on the porch of the press and he rings the doorbell and then he runs away for three days three days of this incredibly damaging news cycle for Pelosi and he

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damaging news cycle for Pelosi and he just completely destroyed her reputation and then went on vacation engulfed so he's off there golfing with his buddy hobby literally having a good time he loves golf he loves hobby he loves being outside golf a little on the weekend he's having a great time over there meanwhile most of the country is trying to decide whether his arch-nemesis Pelosi is old mentally diseased drunk or you know maybe just lost a step that day or or whether it's the video that makes you look that way but it's all the same because in your mind it's all this one big something wrong with Pelosi the situation now the other the other strong technique that the president uses again not talking about the morality not talking about the ethics just the persuasion the persuasion here is that these videos had a mistake in them so I don't know that he knew that or did it

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don't know that he knew that or did it intentionally but I do know he didn't care and the reason he didn't care is is that if the videos were not doctored well he tells his message and it's pretty powerful but if the videos were doctored I'm sure he wouldn't care because it makes us talk about them even more so the the error is a feature when it comes to persuasion remember that rule in persuasion the error the feature because it's the error that draws your attention to it it's the reason we're talking about it it's the reason it's in the headlines it's the reason that everybody is saying oh it's unfair or it's unfair or doctored video that's the feature that's not the problem so if you were the one who put this flaming bag of you-know-what into the universe you would be pretty pretty happy about all the attention it got alright having seen

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the attention it got alright having seen these deep fakes did you see the videos of there's a company now that can animate a CGI version of a person from a single photograph and in fact they even did it with a painting a painting of a person just one picture of a painting a flat painting of a person and it's not even a good painting they could completely animate and make you talk like that painting was a real person but they can also do it with humans they could take a screen grab from me no other data and they can create what I look like from every side and and animate it like I'm actually talking now having seen that do you believe that that video you saw of the the founder leader of the Taliban was real do you think that that very unusual we haven't seen him on video for years and years and then suddenly there's this nice clear video of the I

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there's this nice clear video of the I forget his name somebody will remind me in the comments of the leader of the Taliban maybe it might be a real person but here's the thing if we are not already creating the fake version of these terrorist leaders why not Baghdadi yes so al Baghdadi is the name of the Taliban leader if we're not creating fakes of them and sending those fakes out to the Taliban so the Taliban is getting all these fake instructions it's like oh here's here's a video of al Baghdadi telling me I should take a lot of drugs and throw down my guns or whatever it is so I would not or somebody saying al-baghdadi is Isis was it the ISIS leader do I have this backwards I was saying I was saying I think I might have this backwards yeah so I'm being corrected in the comments so forget I

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corrected in the comments so forget I said Taliban he was the ISIS leader that we hadn't seen his name is al-baghdadi and we finally got this clear video of him after years and I'm thinking to myself if we're in it yeah that's right mullah omar is the taliban and we have not seen recent video of him but we should if you see if you see if you see a new video of uh of omar that's probably not real video anyway the point is this we live in the world in which anything can be faked and the the major platforms will decide what we see the order that we see it and that will be enough to determine the election so i don't think that we have a real republic anymore not not a real the votes will go through the motions the votes will imagine that it was fair but we no longer live in a world where you have anything like free

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world where you have anything like free will and votes and elections and stuff in a real sense now i loved yesterday anderson i think it was yesterday or the day before anderson cooper interviewed a facebook representative who failed to take down the video that they knew to be doctored and here's a really problematic situation coming because so facebook decided that the way they would play it is they would leave it up but they would label it as fake and they would give links to articles that would describe that was fake Anderson Cooper would not let that go and he got really aggressive not in the bad way but he was very aggressive in his questioning about why they would leave that up there understanding that even though it's clearly labeled as a fake it will still have the rushon because it's visual and to his credit Anderson Cooper understood that the faked visual is so strong that just

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the faked visual is so strong that just putting a label on it that says it's not true doesn't even come close to making it okay and his argument was that if you know it's not true and you know it's influencing people how can you leave it up now Facebook to its credit held tight to now we're just gonna label it it's not our job to police the truth of things but it's a fake so we'll label it now I guess it is there it is I take that back it is their job to police the truth of things which is my main point what does it mean for a video to be doctored so the standard the Facebook is created is that if they say the video is not true to the facts if it's doctored and and that doctoring makes it look opposite of what's true then they will

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opposite of what's true then they will label it as fake or they and they also will de-emphasizes so it doesn't show up as often so they can make content essentially disappear because they've decided it's not true because of the way the video is is doctored so let me ask you this if something is a video that only shows part of a statement but it doesn't show the second part of the statement that completely changes the first part is that a doctored video in other words if is a simple video that's not not edited in any way except that it leaves out some context is that a fake video well most of you know what I'm talking about there's a very famous famous example which I'm not going to name because if I do I'll get demonetised and people won't be able to see this video because it will be less visible to people so I'm actually intentionally not using the

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actually intentionally not using the name of the situation but I can tell in the comments which by the way will not be transmitted to to youtube so when this when this video gets uploaded to YouTube the comments are stripped out so I don't have to worry that YouTube will pick up your comments and to monetize it because of the things you're saying does that get stripped out but you know what I'm talking about so yeah there's a very famous situation in which there's a video of the president saying something that they cut out the second part of what he says to reverse its meaning how many times is that video been shown on TV a lot what does Facebook say about the truth of that video at least the video that cuts off the second half well I think they have a problem now because Facebook has created a standard which they can't live to because it's fine when it agrees with them if they happen to agree with

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with them if they happen to agree with the fact that a video is misleading and that's telling the wrong story then they'll block it but what if they don't agree what if what if it's only the Republicans who say it's a fake video well I think you have the worst possible situation where you have people who are literally deciding what is true from things that are all false in other words the environment is serving up almost nothing but falsehoods everything that comes out of the right I'd say 80% of it is fake news everything that comes on is left at least 80% of it is fake news you could argue one of them is a little more fake than the other but both the left and the right are producing gigantic mountains of fake news all the time is Facebook and a treat at all like fake news and and you know de-emphasize all of it they will not I don't think there's any chance of that it seems very

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there's any chance of that it seems very clear that what they'll do is they'll say that the things they imagine are true or they're they're fact checkers tell them are true which we know are highly biased fact checkers they'll they'll present that as truth but it will be debatable now here's the question what do you do about all this I'm getting tired of people telling me that I should do things that would get me kicked off of all the platforms as part of some kind of solidarity with people who have already been kicked off or do you monetize or anything else let me suggest that that's the worst advice in the world the last thing that you want is for me to get kicked off of a platform likewise the last thing you want is for you to get kicked awesome for anybody that you might agree with or want to see to get kicked off the worst dumbest self-immolating strategy is to say how some other person got kicked off

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say how some other person got kicked off so I'm gonna I'm gonna retweet their content and I'll get kicked off too and together and we'll all get kicked off it's the dumbest thing you could possibly do let me tell you the smartest thing you could do smartest thing you could do don't get kicked off social media don't say things that will get you deep monetized or de-emphasize I am going to go the exact opposite direction now keep this and keep in mind this is all a be testing if this strategy turns out to be a bad one I'll have to adjust some debt but my current strategy is I'm actually going to make my content less provocative sounding without being less provocative so I'm not going to pull back on the ideas but I'm gonna use words that are hard to dimana ties and enframing that people will have a hard time finding a problem with so I'm going to make sure that by Election Day you're still listening to me so I'm going to

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still listening to me so I'm going to curse less I'm going to mention fewer topics and by the way there's a there's one word that will get you demonetized for sure on on YouTube and I'm not going to mention it but let's say there are a lot of people in Israel who might be described with that word I mean you know I'm not talking about a bad word I'm talking about the actual word that they would use for themselves if you even use that word it's the J word turns out you will get demonetised because somebody is gonna think they're on the other side of that argument and some some advertiser is gonna say we don't we don't need any of this racial stuff so I probably will never use that word in a description to one of my videos so I'm I'm gonna be far more dangerous by being harder to delete I'm gonna make myself very hard to delete and that will that would be a good

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and that will that would be a good strategy at the same time why does anybody use the Facebook like I I don't know is it just me I ran out of reasons if you would like to have some control over the social media network it's pretty easy to reduce your Facebook users that you don't have to hear z-- the other thing I don't recommend that you quit Facebook I recommend that if you were using it two hours a week you cut it down to 15 minutes you still see all the photos of your friends and everything except instead of you know logging on and seeing a lot of ads all the time I just do it once just do it once this week instead of 10 times this week it would be very easy to you know ramp down your Facebook use I personally still have my Facebook account and plan to keep it I have reduced my

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and plan to keep it I have reduced my Facebook usage to almost nothing which is where I wanted because I don't consider them I just don't consider them healthy for the healthy for the Republic they they certainly have their benefits and I'm not going to get rid of my account but they're not healthy all right let's talk about you know I was thinking about this idea and I'm just gonna put it out here from comment one of the big problems really the big problem is that if the social media platforms want to do a good job of making it to use Jack Dorsey's word a healthy place for conversation they are going to be kicking off bad people I don't have a problem with the concept that there are some people and some messages that are so bad that they should not be on the

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so bad that they should not be on the platform I agree that that's the case but there's certainly a lively debate about whether too many people have been kicked off etcetera but here's the other big problem if you look at the the first step program which is trying to rehabilitate prisoners who get out of jail to get them trained in something and get them into a productive life we have this sense that you should you should have some path to recover from mistakes even bad ones even the kind of mistakes where you go to jail there should be some kind of path that society recognizes to recover and I would suggest that we should at least talk about what I would call a national pardon of everybody who's been banned from social media I think it would be healthy and I don't think all of the platforms have to do it in the same day or anything but I think the platform

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or anything but I think the platform should it leave a universal unbanning of just everybody now there might be some exceptions but I'd rather see and here's my specific problem I know people who were banned from social medias you know for forever or whatever for things they did in their 20s do you think that someone should be banned forever from social media for something they did in their 20s which was a speech with a lady thing well that's the current situation you could be banned for your life for something you did in your 20s before your brain is even fully formed does that seem fair how about people who literally made one mistake however bad it was should those people get another chance I would like to at least put the idea out there that

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to at least put the idea out there that every time there's a major rethinking of how that the platform's handle banning that that's a good opportunity to do a pardon doesn't have to be every year you know it could be every five years whatever makes sense let's say every five years you just unbanned everybody but you keep an eye on them because the people who are banned most of them are gonna have a another you know they're gonna offend again like we're back let's talk about bad stuff again and then you have to Rebane them it can't be that hard I would think that at least I'm just gonna make a guess probably a third of all the people who would you know be allowed back on the platform's probably a third of them would live a you know a life that would not get them banned it's pretty important if a third of those people can get back in the platform and and you need social media to have a you know a real life in the modern world I

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know a real life in the modern world I think I'd be interested in seeing what that looked like somebody says 25 years now I think we are very different people there's there's a case in the headlines right now somebody will have to help me with the name it was the the young guy who was a conservative was at the school shooting as a Kyle somebody yeah remind me of that his name I'm blanking on his name but the yeah Kyle Kyle something all right so we got a lot of attention on social media and he was sort of a rising star and the young conservative voices I think you miss pro-gun etc and I guess he was accepted by Harvard so he's a smart person with a future and that it was discovered that he said some horrible things like really really bad racist stuff in social media

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really bad racist stuff in social media I don't know how long ago but remember he's only 18 18 years old and he said something horrible a year or two ago or whatever it was this kid got into Harvard and and since the time of the shooting I don't believe he said anything publicly or on social media that would be Bandol yeah I guess he said it when he was 16 now what he said was when he was 16 was terrible certainly aybe animal offense easily but what is our standard do you not let a 16 year old you know improve can he not become a better person I think that becoming famous is actually a very rehabilitating thing there are things that you'll say when you're 16 and completely insignificant that you just

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completely insignificant that you just won't even think anymore when you're famous there is something about getting actual power and he did gain power by becoming were well known there's something about growing up there's something about getting power there's something about having influence that does bias you toward being a better person I think this kid and a lot of other people need a path to become better people and to reintegrate with the social media world so I just put that out there I don't know if it's a good idea but I would consider a universal pardon every year five years or so yeah now again there's a practical element to this that there might be millions of people banned and most of them are trolls and you know maybe there's just no practical way to do this maybe there's a segment that can be you know maybe if you've only done one wrong that's enough to get you unbanned

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wrong that's enough to get you unbanned so there might be some standard that works I'll just put that out there all right
that is just about all I have to talk about so he should have learned racism was bad free before 16 that is just such a wrong thing to say so somebody's saying in the comments that Kyle Cuccia if I'm saying his name right he should have learned the racism was bad before we were 16 yes he should have that's what makes it a mistake that's why he got banned no nobody's disagreeing with that I'm just saying that people need a chance to improve now here's I've said this a number of times but I thought of a better way to say it
I've said that you shouldn't judge people by their mistakes but rather you should judge them by how they respond to the mistake how did they apologize and some of them make good what did they

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some of them make good what did they learned how are they going to go forward in life that's a good way to judge people not by the mistake and here's here's why a mistake is something that people don't do intentionally their response to the mistake is something they do intentionally so if you want to know who somebody is you have to look at what they do intentionally now of course you're gonna argue a little bit about what's intentional and what's not but do you think that if Kyle they were just talking about if he could go back in time that he would have done those same comments that got him in trouble I think no chance I think there in his own mind he would call that a mistake meaning that you know that it was conscious decisions at the time but he wasn't conscious of his effect so he consciously chose to do those things but I think it's true that he did not understand the effect it would have on other people he did not have the he

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other people he did not have the he didn't understand that it would become national news certainly didn't know that and he probably is not even the same person anymore so in the sense anything that a teenager does is sort of conscious but they don't really understand what a mistake is in the way that an adult mind would so you're not really seeing the real person when you're looking at their mistakes because if I judge any one of you only by your mistakes well you know I would have to hate all of you if I judge you by your mistakes but your mistakes are mostly unconscious or you didn't mean it something in those forms now it's it's a different kind of mistake if you knew it was illegal and you're trying to hide it you know that's just a criminal so I'm not talking about somebody who's a criminal I'm talking about somebody who did something in public which obviously

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did something in public which obviously you wouldn't do if you knew what a big frickin mistake it was going to be you just wouldn't have done it so let's judge people by what they do intentionally with with their best thinking because that's what the response does a mistake looks like right the mistake itself nobody nobody makes a bad mistake intentionally unless it's in the service of a crime for example that's a different situation all right
what Jesse Smollett did yeah you know there's lots of gray area here so if you were to judge Smollett by the by the the offense versus how he dealt with it you end up getting the same the same answer because the way he dealt with his mistake was so bad that you do know who he is

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he is so somebody you know you I could easily imagine that somebody who was was so hypnotized and and brainwashed by the press that they actually thought that what they were doing might somehow be good for the world or you know it might help get rid of President Trump because you think he's a monster so you can imagine somebody being so deeply brainwashed that doing something ridiculous like smalla did he had some weird justification for why I made sense you can imagine that I don't think there was any justification for what he did but the fact that once it was uncovered the way he handled it was the worst you've ever seen anybody handle anything that part was all intentional so I think you can condemn small it on every level both the mistake and the way he handled it so I think that's on there's no explaining that away so why is BuzzFeed attacking Tony Robbins good question I

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attacking Tony Robbins good question I only am vaguely aware that there's some kind of Tony Robbins thing going on what is it they're accusing him of he was filmed using racial slurs he berated abuse victims what I don't think any of this is real so here's an old video of him in which he's using it not in the context that people are imagining okay
Robin said they had been told that he had then told the whole lot Institute just do what I do just for a minute if you really want to be free and if you want to have some fun he proceeded to perform a dance in front of the crowd while saying I'm a n-word you're a n-word via n-word too he said the

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n-word via n-word too he said the technique worked to change the mood of the room and eventually audience members were also singing I'm a honky and black and white people were hugging now oh my god BuzzFeed m'as fetus is just a wart and the ass of civilization I mean they really really need to go away BuzzFeed just needs to leave the earth let me tell you out of context this looks terrible which is why they ran it because out of context is very provocative if you were in this room when Tony Robbins did this I guarantee you it would be a whole different thing it's obvious from even a quick reading of this that what he was doing was breaking people and worth thinking he was taking he was taking the importance of that word and and the the whole way that we frame race and he was just mixing them up so that people would get to a good result this is so clearly

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get to a good result this is so clearly not racist I mean so unambiguously clearly not racist that BuzzFeed should be shut down for this right now here's here's a perfect example now maybe you could say well buzz we're BuzzFeed thought they were doing the right thing this article in some way but now that I've seen it if they haven't removed this article and apologized deeply to Tony Robbins this is this is a crime without the fact it's probably not illegal but this is the fakest news you'll ever see would would Facebook run this article this is good this is a doctored video this the Tony Robbins situation and again I've only looked at it from five seconds I'm just looking at the page it's clear that they're showing a video they had a very important context and they took it out of that context to turn something that was a positive based

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turn something that was a positive based on just what I'm reading the people in the room had a very positive experience and which's says literally white people and black people were hugging each other like during this exercise he got them out of their racial frames got them into a human being frames got a good result man but you take that in a context of the most influential best hypnotist the world ever saw Tony Robbins it makes it look terrible so BuzzFeed it's got a lot of explaining to do there all right boom yeah so doctored videos is going to be that might be the big story between now and 2020 is that we're gonna have a realization that all all video is doctored I would like to I

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video is doctored I would like to I would like to borrow a an observation so this is not my original observation but the observation is that all photographs are persuasion and all video is persuasion a photograph is not a recording of what happened that's what we used to think we used to think well pictures don't lie right that's one of the most famous sayings in our experience pictures don't lie absolutely wrong all pictures lie all the time it is much much more accurate to say every picture lies every time because a picture is is staged to create a certain yeah Peter Duke is is the one who said that in hoaxed mics or by the film that you can see on Vimeo and you should because it's amazing you should watch it you should watch hoaxed on Vimeo and yeah I couldn't remember where

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Vimeo and yeah I couldn't remember where Peter said it so I was holding off until you reminded me so he said it in hoax and the point is that all videos all videos are a lie they're designed that way there's no exception they're all lies they tell you a story that the photographer wants to tell it's not the story of what was happening it's the story that the photographer wants to tell and that's an important an important point all right they're just looking at your comments I think we've said enough for today and I will talk to you later