Episode 538 Scott Adams: President Trump Walking out of Chuck/Nancy Meeting
Date: 2019-05-22 | Duration: 16:31
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This is what makes President Trump special… OLD FRAME: President is under investigation, a witch-hunt VICTIM NEW FRAME: Dems continuing to pursue is INCOMPETANCE Brilliant reframing Chuck and Nancy caught totally off guard They had no time to prepare a counter-offensive
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## Transcript
[0:06]
buh-buh-buh-buh-buh hey everybody come on in here let's talk about that infrastructure meeting that didn't go as planned as soon as we get a thousand people in here I'll jump into the topic only take a moment hey everybody hey gary leo jeremy and alex so this will be just a sure periscope on one topic i'll tell you historians are some gay someday going to give president Trump more respect than they then people give him now and this is one of those situations I could not love more the fact that Trump walked out of the infrastructure meeting with Chuck and Nancy if you haven't seen the news there was a follow up infrastructure meeting in which Schumer and Pelosi and Trump were going to meet and talk about how to pay for things that largely people on both sides want to do in regards to infrastructure but the
[1:08]
regards to infrastructure but the president showed up made it a 3-minute meeting in which he said that you can't have two tracks you can't have a permanent investigation track at the same time you're doing real real work and so he excused himself to go do real work he didn't say it that way but that's kind of what happened now here's everything I love about this let us start on the factual level first which doesn't matter to anything yeah if I've taught you nothing the facts no really matter the the reason the rationale the thought we can talk about those but then I'm going to dismiss them so let me say right off front of course the government can have two tracks at the same time that's what a government does it has lots of things that it does at the same time of course Trump could if you wanted to do infrastructure at the same time that there are investigations so on a
[2:10]
that there are investigations so on a logical factual rational what the president did makes no sense that I would not be the one to defend it but this is what makes him special he knows that doesn't matter I mean he knows that the rational factual part is just not the important part the rational factual part is that he saw an opening and he took it and the opening was this I think he was probably waiting for this I'm not going to read his mind but I think you know at least one possibility is that he was looking for an opening to do something I like what he did and like like what he did is he framed the Democrats in a new way the old framing had been the witch hunt so the witch hunt framing says that you're a victim and people are coming after you so that's that's what the president has been under for the last three years now a witch hunt is actually an improvement
[3:13]
a witch hunt is actually an improvement over what the public was thinking at least a lot of the public is that he was guilty of colluding with Rafa so when the president reframed colluding with Russia to a witch hunt that was an upgrade a witch hunt it's better to be the victim of a witch hunt assuming that you get you know you don't actually get burned at the stake it's better to be chased on false charges way better than it is to actually have committed treason so he reframed it to the best he could do which was to call it a witch hunt and now he just took it to another level because the witch hunt thing even though it was better than the alternative still frames him as a victim this is not really the president who likes being framed as a victim it doesn't really work with his brand he likes to be on offense and so he saw the opening and he took it and he has just reframed reframed the Democrats thanks
[4:13]
reframed reframed the Democrats thanks to the fact that the mobile report is out and there's enough out they can tell the story that the investigation has been done and anything else you do is just incompetent so he's reframed it from hey you may or may not be guilty of treason against your country up to well this is a witch-hunt and he sold it he sold it most of the country seized now certainly not the hardcore left but most of the country sees that it was closer to a witch on - than anything else and now he's taking it to the next level because he had this opportunity and he's refrained at another time and the new refrain is that they're completely incompetent and they can't even work on the business of the government and he's not even going to be in a room with people this useless now remember on the logic the facts the reason level none of this makes sense of course he could be
[5:14]
this makes sense of course he could be in the baby of course he could sit at the table of course he could make infrastructure decisions but man was this a good time not to do it wow it was so good now he uses this imagery of the two tracks which is another Trump signature move it's visual you literally see two tracks he goes you can't be on two tracks at the same time and you say to yourself well yeah if I were trying to be on two tracks at the same time I'm only one person how can one person be in two places makes no sense at all but it's still persuasive this is a persuasion trick reasons that don't have real reasons are actually very persuasive it's the the thinking behind what I call the fake it because if you say you should do X because you don't even have to have a good reason after because simply framing it in the form of a question makes people think that the because means something so the fact that Trump says
[6:17]
something so the fact that Trump says you can't be on two tracks at the same time and your mind goes to a physical place where you actually couldn't put your body in two places at one time you say oh yeah I guess you can't you can't really be in two tracks at the same time completely ridiculous imagery because being in a meeting talking about infrastructure is not a track you can certainly have a meeting but you you still uncritically process it like it's impossible I can't be in two places at one time so persuasion wise it's it's really strong and Pelosi and Schumer were caught off off balance and they were left hanging again like it's like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football I mean Trump basically rebranded humor and Pelosi as Charlie Brown trying to kick the football and Trump is like hey hey Nancy hey Chuck you want to kick the football at this
[7:19]
you want to kick the football at this time I'm gonna keep it here no no I'm not moving no we got a meeting we all agree on infrastructure who would disagree on infrastructure come kick my football here you come here yep whoops okay you know that Trump is always playing on several levels at the same time one of the levels he plays on is that he is literally and consciously and this part I'd know for sure entertaining his base he is literally entertaining us were you more amused by anything that happened today then the first time you heard that Trump once again walked out in the meeting with Chuck and Nancy was there anything that made you happier today nothing if you're a trump supporter if you're a trump supporter nothing made you happier today than knowing he did that that was for us right though that was like he pays us back you know when people support him he he pays back you know it's very very
[8:20]
pays back you know it's very very conscious decision to give you back a little entertainment but it was more than that it was functional it reframed Chuck and Nancy and here's the best part they didn't have time to prepare their responses so if you saw their responses individually Pelosi and Schumer their responses were so bad so Pelosi tried to turn this and she tried to go back to one of the old the old attacks so she described as bizarre it was just it was just bizarre so bizarre so she was trying to sell it as Trump is unstable crazy unpredictable whatever so she was trying to go back to an old there's something wrong with his personality thing but I will think anybody sees it that way because for me walking into a meeting saying I can't work with clowns like you and walking out is sort of the opposite of being
[9:22]
out is sort of the opposite of being crazy it's sort of sort of perfect so so Pelosi just failed hard because she just didn't have anything except it was bizarre it was weird I didn't know what to do yeah it's the first time anybody walked out of the meeting never saw that before in the history of humanity Schumer was even funnier because he tried to sell it as part of a clever plot by the President to avoid saying where he would find the money for the thing he wants to do do you think this president can find money for something he wants to do you know maybe they have a disagreement about where to find the money but both sides want infrastructure and they know it costs money that was the weakest defense by humor to say um I think he's just trying to distract yeah that's it yeah yeah I'm going with this he's trying to distract from the fact that nobody has figured out where to get the
[10:22]
nobody has figured out where to get the money and he didn't want to say where to get the money credibility level zero Trump just slapped them down so hard and I have to say persuasion aside just as a citizen I so support this I so support the president walking out of that meeting and tell him that he's just not going to deal with them when their primary job is to destroy the government and and we have a country that's running pretty darn well right now and they're trying to stop whatever good is happening with with their with their small machinations now the other thing that's the sort of new wish is that there's there's definitely some kind of investigation fatigue and I'm pretty sure that even the Democrats are getting exhausted looking for things and waiting for things and praying for things and imagining for things not
[11:25]
things and imagining for things not getting any things so I think the country doesn't care enough doesn't pay attention to the the small ball you know the the lawyer said something to a lawyer that might not have been true it's like the same story over and over again you just changed the name of the lawyers let's change the name of this lawyer and just rerun the story it's the same story we just changed the names of the lawyers so he knows that the country is exhausted and by the way one of the reasons that this president understands that the mood of the country so well is exactly the thing that he's criticized for the most which is watching a lot of CNN and Fox News on television if you are trying to understand the mood of the country reading a deep investigative report in The New York Times won't do it it'll just tell you what one reporter and some editors thought about a topic that's it but if you want to understand the mood in the country if you want to
[12:25]
the mood in the country if you want to know how people feel why you're skipping back and forth between CNN and and Fox News will really give that to you pretty quickly and I think this president is brilliant for knowing that that's the the lever that moves the world it's the thing that touches our emotions the most you know if you can understand those two views in the world and you have to see both you know no fair just watching I just see the Fox News or just see that you have to watch both or you don't get the mood to the country I think he has properly deduced the following about the mood of the country number one everyone agrees we need more infrastructure improvements number two nobody's quite sure what these and structural improvements would be you or exactly how they would affect their lives personally it's sort of a big vague thing that you know is important but you can't put a picture on it
[13:26]
but you can't put a picture on it there's not a there's not a person or a face involved with it it's just this big concept it was the perfect meeting to walk at of if he had walked down with a meeting about you know how do we negotiate with North Korea that would look like the end of the world if he'd walked out of a an ordinary budget meeting you'd say well who's running in the country somebody's got to come up with a budget if you'd walked out of most other kinds of meetings people would said Trump you you know do your job get back in the meeting yeah your job is to be in that room and go back in that room but because it's infrastructure which people know is important but not exactly how I don't know we'll go away I don't know am I going to get faster internet something like that well what's gonna happen with this infrastructure I have a better bridge that I haven't seen one fall down in my lifetime at least not personally I know they fall down so he picked the exact right spot to humiliate and
[14:29]
exact right spot to humiliate and rebrand the Democrats as the worthless party that is so worthless you can't even sit in the room with them you can't even sit in a room with them because they're so worthless that they're they're so busy trying to destroy the government that they can't even do their job now again none of that is true none of that is rational none of that is reasonable anything I just said about you know the functioning of the government or people doing their jobs people can do all this stuff at the same time we do it all the time we can walk and chew gum as they say but in terms of how this feels that looks it looks like the president just reframed from witch-hunt up to so worthless they can't even sit in a room you know without messing it up with investigations so I love everything that the press this I'm a hundred percent supportive and by the way I'm pretty sure I would
[15:29]
and by the way I'm pretty sure I would say this if the parties were reversed I know that's not true of most people but in my case I would definitely say if the situation were reversed that was have fewer investigations in fact when Bill Clinton was being investigated for all of his many many issues I also decided to help out less than that because we don't care about his sex life so I've been consistent on this and I think most of the country would like a lot a lot fewer lawyers in the news and a lot more you know progress in the news all right that's the only thing that I wanted to say that he made a brilliant reframing and I think history will record that nobody ever did this sort of thing better and it's very impressive so I just wanted to share that with you and I will talk to you later