Episode 507 Scott Adams: Biden’s Race Hoax Gaffe, North Korea, Felons Voting

Date: 2019-04-25 | Duration: 35:33

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Joe Biden announces candidacy by repeating “fine people” hoax Then he seemed to endorse Antifa and a slave owner Chairman Kim visits President Putin Peace and friendships are the path forward Hope for Russia, China, US agreement to protect North Korea Potential exists for North Korea becoming an economic star

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[Music] hey Joanne hey Kate come on in here it's time for coffee with Scott Adams and if you're in here early you can enjoy the simultaneous sip all you need is a cup or a mug or a glass some kind of a Steiner a chalis or a thermos a tankered if you will fill it with your favorite liquid I like coffee and join me now for this s aneous
sip so the big news of the day um I'm going to wait for a few more people to get in before the biggest news of the day let's talk about Fel voting I love this felons voting question because it all it really is is a a great political fod uh you know the importance it is probably pretty low but I love the fact that the Democrats have so little to run

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that the Democrats have so little to run on that giving prisoners and murderers the vote is sort of their it's part it's part of their top three and um I had said that I supported giving Prisoners the vote my reasoning is that it's for the benefit of the rest of of society it's not because it's good or bad or anything for the prisoners themselves it's that it become it helps make them part of the system buy into the system Etc so for the people who are not in prison that would be you and and me it's good for us if criminals vote to the to the extent that it's one small part of making them part of a system giving them a little buy into the system making them feel you know part of the process now people have said quite reasonably wait a minute are you saying murderers should vote they took the vote

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murderers should vote they took the vote away from someone else now that argument is not rational because we can punish the prisoners however the law requires we could say we're going to give you 50 years in prison and we're going to slap you in the head if the law said that we you pass the law they said we're going to put you in prison and we're going to play Bad music in your cell if the law said that in other words we can pass a law that as long as it's not cruel and unusual can be part of the punishment I suppose playing bad music all day would be cruel and unusual so maybe that one's a bad example
but um and then so let me just complete this and I'll comment to a comment there so if somebody wants to make an exception and say Yes prisoners maybe they should vote it makes them part of the system it's part of Rehabilitation but not

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but not murderers and not maybe terrorists I'd be okay with an exception I see no reason that you can't make an exception for murderers and terrorists if you want to extend that to rapists or other violent criminals it's okay with me we can have any laws we want so long as they're uh agreed by the the public but in general don't throw out the baby with the bathwater meaning that there is some value to Society of getting prisoners a little bit pregnant in believing in the system um so I agree with that statement but it's a terrible thing to uh Mount Your campaign on so independent of whether there's any um good or bad to that idea of letting prisoners vote independent of the facts it's a terrible thing to put a to wrap your campaign around it's a terrible thing to have to comment

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comment on um now some of you said in the comments that those uh that those prisoners well here are a few problems one is that the prisons tend to be located in specific places so so you might have a whole bunch of prisoners in one County and and might be enough to actually sway an election and that would be bad so one of the things you could do is to say that everybody gets to vote but their vote only counts in their prior residents in other words no matter where they are in prison their vote is distributed out to the the places that they were living before they were in prison so that would at least not have them concentrated in one County where they can elect their own Warden or something uh I don't know if you could elect a warden but you could elect whoever appoints a warden or hires a warden maybe so you got that uh and then

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warden maybe so you got that uh and then some of you were worried that the prisoners would vote essentially in favor of crime so somebody was saying do you expect a convicted rapist to vote for women's you know anything that would be protective of women to which I say I think you'd be surprised I don't know this for sure but I also don't know that there's a problem here which is for example um I'm not entirely sure that murderers are in favor of murder I don't think they are are they even if you were to do a poll of convict Ed murderers how many of them would be in favor of murder I think you'd actually find a very small number of them were in favor of murder even if they did it likewise convicted rapists how many convicted rapists would support

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how many convicted rapists would support some kind of a law that would make it easier for rapists to get away well some but probably not most probably not most so I'm not sure there's a big problem given that the votes would be distributed around the country there are very few laws that actually are so on point that a person's in in jail for something so similar I just don't see it as a big problem um now those of you who are worried that they'll mostly vote Democrat I say to you if anybody's voting for the other team you just have to work harder to get their vote that's how the system works so I see the point that they might vote Democrat but why not work harder and try to get those votes after all which which party in power got prison reform through if you were a if you were a a

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were a if you were a a prisoner would you care about anything more than prison reform to get you out of prison early and get you a job it's probably what you care about most and that's a republican LED thing anyway so enough about that let's talk about about Joe Biden's uh tragic uh Gaff of the century announcement Joe freaking Biden possibly the worst person in the country right now or the dumbest I can't tell it depends if he believes what he said I suspect he believes what he
said free stuff for felons I I I can't leave this giving felons the right to vote is not really giving them anything cuz the right to vote for any one person is so vanishingly small that you could just ignore it for all practical purposes it's not like giving them candy or giving them money uh allowing them to

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or giving them money uh allowing them to participate in the system is not a gift per se uh uh anyway so just consider that maybe your opinions on prison reform have more to do with revenge and emotion and less to do with what's good for society uh Joe Biden started his announcement for presidency by repeating the Charlottesville fine people hoax the most the most dangerous and divisive and harmful hoax since maybe even more than the Russian collusion hoax it's up there it's so it's the number two hoax so the moment the Russia collusion hoax is at least a little bit diminished the Democrats come back with a new hoax to it's going to be like the the launching pad for his his campaign

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the launching pad for his his campaign and I noted if you listen to it so he starts off talking about Charlottesville and he mentions Jefferson and he mentions that even Jefferson you know was not perfect and I'm thinking to myself Jefferson was a slave owner which is what he was referring to and I just don't know if coming out against Confederate statues but in favor of a slave owner within two minutes in the context of the announcement of your race for the the presidency is maybe one of the dumbest things you've ever seen
he seemed to endorse antifa because they were the brave people there fighting the neo-nazis according to him he literally endorsed massed weapon wielding anarchists who would like to destroy the government of the United States he thought they were great people

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States he thought they were great people he actually said that he actually said that amazing so um it seems to me maybe I think I think it would be the worst presidential launch of all time probably the worst one but I wanted to do something uh For Your Entertainment um if any of you have uh an Amazon a XA I'm going to be talking to it right now in your home and mine so you might want to turn off the sound for a minute if you don't want your a l e XA to say something in your house watch
this Alexa how old is creepy Joe B Biden sorry I don't know that Alexa how old is creepy Joe

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Biden sorry I still didn't get that but if you're up for a game I've got lots of fun ones to choose from
okay so this was a lot funnier Alexa
cancel this was funnier when I tested it before I came on Periscope I actually asked the question using his name creepy Joe Biden and Alexa just answered the question this time I asked exactly the same question and she didn't answer it did you notice that makes me wonder if anybody is playing with it behind the scenes but I guarantee you I tried this right before I came on live and calling him creepy Joe Biden got me a
a response um let's talk about well let's let's talk about Biden's chances I would put Biden's chances at zero I don't know if any of you agree

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zero I don't know if any of you agree but when he announced I actually strongly considered donating to uh Bernie Sanders and not because I think Bernie Sanders should be president because I don't but because anybody who's spreading this Charlottesville hoax they really need to be taken out so I I pinned to my Twitter feed a useful series of uh of links in a thread so it's pinned to my Twitter so you can easily find it and it's the response to all the fine people hoax people who believe it now there's an interesting thing when you point out to people that they that they've been hoaxed about what fine people refer to and you show them at the actual transcript where it says in clear language that the President says I'm not talking about the the neo-nazis and the white supremacists they should be condemned totally now

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they should be condemned totally now that sentence is as clear as you could get so if somebody thought he was talking about those people being fine people and you show them the transcript and and the words say just what I said I'm not talking about those people they should be condemned totally nobody asked him to say that he added that on his own to make sure nobody misunderstood what he was saying this was the president now what happens when somebody believes he the president said the racists were fine people and then you show them the transcript where it unambiguously says he's not talking about that group what do people do so far 100% of the people that I've I've seen online and it's a lot a lot of people do the same thing they say well well they were if they were marching with and they all they all seem to default to the same phrase you can't be a fine person person if you're

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be a fine person person if you're marching with neo-nazis and they'll all hallucinate that anybody who is there who wasn't antifa or the Press I guess or the police was actually marching with the tiki torch people now that of course is a hallucination because that didn't happen there were people there with militias there were people there for supporting the historical importance of the statues which I you know most most of you know I do not support the statues I think offensive decorations should be taken down just because why would you want to offend other Patriots in your country who are doing nothing but trying to enjoy the park and and there's some statue that they would find quite offensive even if you think it's not doesn't matter if you think it's not offensive if you're offending something like a third of the country maybe considering being a nicer person even if you think they should not

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person even if you think they should not be offended you can observe that they are and you wouldn't put an offensive decoration in your own house why should we put it in public anyway that's my argument but nonetheless there were plenty of people who were not racists who were there to support Free Speech historical um historical monuments Etc and when you point out that the president was clearly not talking about the racist the the people who have been hoaxed will never say oh okay I guess I got that wrong that just never happens instead it's weird how specifically they will move their argument the same way pretty much every one of them having been proven completely wrong will say yeah but they can't be fine people if they're marching with marching with the part they add that never really happened the Neon Nazis so the uh in my tweet

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the Neon Nazis so the uh in my tweet thread you can see how to respond to that somebody says you are wrong Scott all right I'm going to get rid of whoever said you are wrong Scott because there's plenty of room for reasons if you have one I'm happy to listen to it but you wrong Scott that's just a that's just a block um so I included in my uh thread some handy links for all the people who are experiencing the hysteria of the fine people hoax and one of those links is to New York Times article where they talk to one of the fine people who was with the militia and they weren't there with the with the uh with the racist they were opposed to racist they just like statues uh historical statues and free speech and guns apparently they like gun and free speech and historical statues now uh so those that's the link

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statues now uh so those that's the link you want to send to people who say but there're could be no free nice people there who are Marching with Nazis that part is just a hallucination it is a complete hallucination now uh often they will Retreat a second time so once you've pointed out that there were people there and even the New York Times interviewed one who was not marching with any racists at all they were just in the same the same zip code people will then almost always Retreat to well anybody who supports those offensive statues if there if they're supporting statues they can't be fine people to which I say and I alone can say this because I also oppose Confederate statutes I say well hey I oppose confed statues and I also oppose putting uh slave owners on our currency do you also oppose putting

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currency do you also oppose putting slave owners on currency or here's the fun part do you oppose putting slave owners on our currency or do you side with the neo-nazis on that
point isn't this fun now I was doing this this morning with one of my critics who and by the way it doesn't matter if you
you support pictures of the founders on the currency that isn't the point the point is that when you point out to people that their wallet literally in their pocket they have portraits of of uh slave owners in their pocket if they're not complaining about that you don't really need to listen about the statues do you do you do you really need to take anybody seriously about the statues if they they've got like a wallet full of pictures of slave owners on their currency and they're okay with that now what I do which drives people crazy is I

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what I do which drives people crazy is I do a thing called being consistent you so rarely see anybody being consistent that when it happens people actually can't see it it's it's actually hilarious so I started out with saying that there were fine people there at the event so naturally everybody thinks well you must be a racist Scott if you think there was anybody there just for free speech and just to support statues then I say well I'm against statutes I just think that those people are not racists that's all I don't agree with them on the statutes I'm completely against it but if you're against statues and you're not with me against putting slave owners on currency you're going to have to explain why you're agreeing with the
the neo-nazis you're going to have to explain it now what happens to people when I put a big load of consistency on them word

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them word salad so it it's word salad you'll see the response it'll be like blah blah blah blah blah and you look at it you go I these words don't even make sense there's just words so that's what happened this morning it was fun all right
uh somebody says I can't buy buy food with a stat with a statue idiot uh Jeff the drunk says I can't buy food with a statue yes Jeff the drunk that is such an astute observation relevant to
to nothing your point is a monument to
stupidity uh I love Jeff the drunk you are officially the dumbest commenter of the morning thank you very much and now you are deleted

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block somebody says where does this end where does it end to which I say why should progress ever
end you know there's when somebody says there's a slippery slope somebody else is going to say completely honestly you're talking about progress if what we're doing is getting rid of Confederate statutes hypothetically just bear with me if we get rid of Confederate statues because they were offensive and a sign of slavery and then it goes further and somebody says hey maybe we have to get rid of the uh get rid of the pictures of the slave owners on our currency to which I say it's not a bad idea isn't the whole point of currency to put the most you know respected people that are role models for the children don't you want role models on your money if you ask me we could find people who are not

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ask me we could find people who are not racists to put on money who would be pretty good Role Models I have no problem with that I would call it progress somebody says you be denying our
our history no history is actually not much in a statue do you remember when you you went to school when you were in school and instead of books they showed you Confederate statues do you remember that neither do I because history is in books history is not taught by statues and it's statues are relevant um quite irrelevant now if somebody said maybe we should just put these statues in context perhaps you could add a plaque that gives the background and you know gives some context to which I would say that's not a bad idea that is not a bad idea

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not a bad idea that is not a bad idea certainly something worthy of consideration
um yeah why not put me on the $100 bill given all this good work work I do on Periscope all
right how do we know which sins to pick same way we always do by power the the slippery slope can only slide if there are enough people who want it to keep sliding the moment that there are fewer people who wanted to slide or there's more power in the don't keep sliding it stop sliding and then that's all the progress you
get history is in museums put statues in museums that's one way to go the K Smith removal is beyond the pale well I don't

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removal is beyond the pale well I don't know I'd have to look into Kate Smith's um background but she was anti-gay and I don't know to what degree she was anti-gay uh but it must have been pretty bad so I'm not sure that I have a problem with that
um say that to people of London or Rome you know if yeah the thing about let's take Rome for example the Coliseum was a horrible place but it's presented that way if you go to the Coliseum nobody is hiding the fact that horrible things happen there if you go to the Holocaust Museum nobody's hiding the fact that it's about horrible stuff but if you see a statue in the park it's lacking context where's all

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park it's lacking context where's all the
the context so if you had some context it'd be okay all right um chairman Kim went to visit Putin chairman kin went to visit Putin and Putin says it was a good meeting and he'll share the results with the United States and this made me optimistic now I've always said since the beginning of the let's say the loosening of North Korea you know from from the point where they started to act like they wanted to make progress I said that the ultimate solution is going to look something like the three major Powers Plus South Korea so uh Russia the United States and China issuing some kind of a joint a military let's say shield in which we would keep each other from attacking North Korea and keep anybody else from attacking him under the condition that they do convert their

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the condition that they do convert their nuclear to uh let's say Just Energy instead of weapons now if I were Kim I would want to get you know Putin and she and Trump all on the same page and say look here's the deal for me to give up my Nuclear deterrence I need all three of you leaders to sign a document that says even if one of us decides to move against North Korea the other two are going to do what they can to prevent it and maybe it's economic maybe it doesn't have to be military but something with a little teeth that would say nobody is going to attack North Korea so long as North Korea doesn't you know do something bad to the include as long as North Korea gets rid of their nukes and doesn't let's say counter fit or whatever else they were doing um so I think you could come up with a deal that would make Kim Jong-un feel safer and would be real because I think if the three powers say look we can solve this

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three powers say look we can solve this but all three of us have to be on the same page let's just turn North Korea into an economic success story let Kim Jung and stay in power for now work toward you know a 100-year plan for reunification there's no re reason to rush just do what you can when you can and get on the trail of improvement and friendship and I think we're already off the trail of being enemies but we're sort of just standing around figuring out where to go right now do we go back to being enemies do we continue on the peace Trail so I think um so I think that would get us there so I would see I would see the move forward some kind of a declaration of the end of the
the war with the three superpowers guaranteeing North Korea's security so that they can start moving forward and Kim can declare Victory and by the way that would totally be a

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by the way that would totally be a victory if Kim gets rid of his nukes but what he gets in return let's say he doesn't get rid of them he can converts his nuclear industry into you know peaceful energy for his country if he does that and he ends the war permanently and he gets the three superpowers to probably help him economically at the same time that they become you know a a peace umbrella that's a big big big win for Kim and we win too essentially everybody wins so I think Kim is starting is starting to put together a package a a diplomatic package that might be the real deal now you don't want to get ahead of yourself because optimism has been always the wrong play when it comes to North Korea and I'm not I'm not ignorant of the fact that they've made promises before and it's all a stalling game Etc but what's

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all a stalling game Etc but what's different about this is that they have they have a clean path to the biggest Victory they've ever had there is nothing in the way nothing there is nothing preventing chairman Kim from just walking a straight line to the biggest Victory any leader ever had I mean this would be one of the biggest victories for a leader of any kind anywhere if he could turn North Korea into a protected economic Powerhouse and convert the the nuclear power nuclear energy in in the nuclear weapons industry into peaceful nuclear energy all right [Music] um North Korea could be a manufacturing Powerhouse yes they
could does chairman Kim listen to this Periscope well

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well I think so um I don't mean him personally so the no chairman Kim does not personally listen to my Periscope but here's what I do think is true I think that Kim has some you know Department of people whose job it is to closely monitor the Foreign Press and foreign social media and foreign opinion so I think it is a guarantee that North Korea is monitoring closely the opinion makers in this Country Now where you would Place me on the list of opinion makers I would say I'm in the top
top 100 would would you agree with that uh because I think you would treat the major Publications as sort of one thing and they would monitor them so surely North Korea is monitoring the New York Times and CNN and Fox News and the big media analysts but you you very quickly run out of them you know there's a maybe

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run out of them you know there's a maybe a top 20 so you can guarantee that they're looking at all of that and then beyond the new sources there are the I would say the independent pundits so you've got your um well you know all all the people who are not associated with a news Outlet um you know an couter for example does does North Korea follow an couter well if they don't they're missing they're missing out cuz she's certainly in the top 100 of opinion makers now the question of whether North Korea is familiar with anything I've said was sort of dependent on two things one am I in the top 100 of of let's say opinion makers in this country I don't know what do you think um yeah Russ and B would be another and there' be a number on the the left as well I think I'm easily in the top 100

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well I think I'm easily in the top 100 and they're probably watching at least the top 100 opinion makers so um and then secondly is there anything that I've ever said that our own government liked and then shared with North Korea either through South Korea or through you know it doesn't mean that they shared it in terms of putting my name on it but were there any ideas that influenced anybody in our government to float to anybody in North Korea's domain don't know no way to know
so um yeah I'm just looking at your comments here yeah Victor David Hansen there's there's a good one do you think there's any chance that North Korea has never

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any chance that North Korea has never seen anything by Victor David Hansen I think they have because he would certainly be in the top 100 opinion maker um and and far higher far higher than than I would be I would imagine so Victor Davis Hansen I always say his name wrong sorry Davis Davis Victor Davis Hansen I always I always make that same mistake I
apologize did my meeting with Trump have any influence on North Korea I doubt it
it um I think you know that it's sort of a trick question because in in the unlikely event that Trump asked me anything important about policy I wouldn't be able to tell you the conversation anyway but uh we didn't talk about anything

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but uh we didn't talk about anything important in policy so so the answer is no we talked about politics but not
policy please interview vdh
vdh um yeah Michael malice I would assume that North Korea follows Michael malice same thing all right that's all I've got and I will talk to you later