Episode 498 Scott Adams: Obstruction of a Witch Hunt, Mental Health Crisis, Dale, More

Date: 2019-04-18 | Duration: 20:05

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Media and Dem reactions to Barr’s press conference

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I'm back yeah you can't get enough of me today or I can't get enough of myself one of those two things is definitely true and I've already moved to tea I've had enough coffee but man I keep toasting all day it's toasting toasting so I've got some updates on this whole mull report thing um my prediction was that the world would divide into two movies and everybody would see what they want I just turned off Chris Cuomo saying that it's absolutely proven that it was not a Witch Hunt the one thing Chris Cuomo says You must acknowledge is that now there's no question about it this was no Witch
Hunt well wasn't it wasn't it yeah I I get that there were people who took some meetings but once you've looked at it all and you find no crimes from the

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all and you find no crimes from the president or anybody really close to him that that mattered from the president's perspective from his personal perspective it was a Witch Hunt I don't think you get to say well what about Papadopoulos what about Paul manord doing completely unrelated things wait a minute wait a
minute I think you're forgetting Paul maner doing completely unrelated things how about that are you forgetting that in your wi wi stupid read the mull report it is full of damning evidence of all the crimes he didn't commit the president I'm talking about there are so many of them now I know what you're thinking individually if you were to look at any one of the things in the M report it wouldn't mean anything

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report it wouldn't mean anything individually but if you add together all of the things that don't mean anything simple math tells you that 10 time 0 is 100 so there you go
scene so uh apparently the the anti-trumpers are trying to cling to their last shred of
of sanity and the thing that I keep looking at is the tone of distress when the CNN folks are trying to make their points they look like they look deranged uh the just the tone the the way they they have stress in their voice have you noticed it let me let me give you two different versions first version will be somebody simply reporting the news well today Bill bar reported that

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news well today Bill bar reported that there was no collusion and no obstruction there were a number of things that Mueller looked at they thought were worth looking at but when he put it all together there was nothing there see that would be a person who does not have a Mental Health crisis now let me do everybody on CNN but do you see there was definitely no Witch Hunt this this was no Witch
Hunt it wasn't wasn't there were so many bad things president did in there he talked to people he said things he considered things he considered things are you telling me that it doesn't count that he considered things h
oh let me get my sarcastic face on oh so you say there's nothing in the Muller report did you forget that Sarah Sanders once said something at a press conference that later she said wasn't

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conference that later she said wasn't exactly accurate come on that should have been jail time right there jail [Music] scene so yeah I was I just turned off Chris guomo and they're agitated and they're angry that other people are suggesting that there wasn't something here but the president may have in fact tried to obstruct a Witch Hunt and the president was the only person who knew for sure no doubt about it because the president knew what he did or didn't do no one else in the world could be sure but the president could be sure he knew what he did and he knew what he didn't do so he he there was no chance that he was obstructing justice because he had

[5:19]

obstructing justice because he had knowledge that no one else had which is there was no justice to be obstructed that at least from his own perspective he hadn't done anything now if you say oh Scott you're forgetting all of those minor players who lied to investigators and what about that meeting blah blah blah what's what's your best point give me your laundry list and I'll tell you let's take your best point on the laundry list what's your strongest point in that Muller report just pick one pick your very worst thing it's nothing everything else is less important than that here's my favorite one from today so apparently began quit the president's lawyer quit because he quit because uh Trump asked them to fire Comey I don't know it doesn't matter for for one point it doesn't matter what he asked him to do but the story is that bar didn't want to do what the president wanted him to do because

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the president wanted him to do because it probably would have crossed the line into obstruction of justice so bar uh offered to quit now when the public looks at a story like this they see it completely differently than rich people see
it let me tell you how rich people see the same story all right and I'm going to speak as an official rich person who has had lots of lawyer contact lots lots of lawyer contact uh for every all manner of things from you know legal problems to not my own as it turns out but uh all kinds of things and I can tell you I have personally had lawyers threatened to
quit and by by threaten to quit I mean that they would say in clear terms the thing you're suggesting I could not possibly be part

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suggesting I could not possibly be part of because it would be illegal and I don't want to be involved in an illegal thing so what did I do when my law lawyers said I will quit if you need to do that because I can't be part of that I said okay now I understand I understand you know the level of gravity I understand that this is a hard stop now here's another thing the poor people who don't work with lawyers a lot don't understand your lawyer works for you and is generally more cautious than you are so that the process of working with a lawyer about anything complicated is you're pushing your lawyer all the time because the lawyer is trying to make sure that there's zero chance of risk but the business person or the politician is not only concerned with legal risk they're they're concerned with everything from their brand to the politics of it to how it looks to you know the the business end of it Etc so if you're not pushing your lawyer all

[8:23]

if you're not pushing your lawyer all the time to get them off their position you haven't figured out how to deal with a lawyer if you take your lawyer's advice and just go boom okay lawyer said I guess that's what I'll do sometimes it makes perfect sense to do that sometimes the lawyer will tell you something you'll say well I don't have a feeling about this one way or another of course I'll do what the lawyer says I don't have a better idea but there are all kinds of situations and I've bet in a lot of them where the lawyer says you only want to go this far because this is where your risk is the lowest and I say great I understand what you're saying I completely get what you're saying and now we're going to go this far and the law and the lawyer says just remember I told you but I I acknowledge that there are other factors besides the legal risk there's also the business upside Etc right I would like to stress that I've never broken the law in terms of working with my lawyer because the lawyer never lets that

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because the lawyer never lets that happen that's what they do and if they haveen to threaten to quit sometimes that's the only thing that can make you stop pushing them because you don't want to have to go get another lawyer so threatening to quit if you're a lawyer and you're dealing with a rich person and it's a big complicated situation as this this situation was um it's very routine it's very routine for a lawyer to quit or threaten to quit it's It's Not Unusual in that world
by the way the the way that we know that we're living in a simulation is that the same characters get reused you know if you're watching a movie you say oh there's my favorite actor in that movie but then you could watch another movie no that's the same actor same actor was in that other movie but you're okay with that because you know it's fiction but every time we watch one of these legal situations Michael avanatti getss involved apparently he was trying

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getss involved apparently he was trying to get involved in the Jessy smallet case too to uh represent the two brothers and I think this must be some kind of simulation because we would have more characters don't you think we would have more characters in our plays if it were real I mean there were six billion people you you could throw in a new lawyer every now and then it doesn't have to be I mean even Bill bar is sort of a rerun you know Donald Trump was already famous like it's they just the simulation is just reusing characters you know what would happen if a cartoonist that you do as a Cartoonist suddenly starts talking about politics well it's because you're in a simulation the simulation only has a you know a certain number of characters and the rest are just NPCs so you have to reuse the real characters so you don't have to program a gazillion people sorry I didn't mean to get off the subject um

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didn't mean to get off the subject um one of the questions that I have about about this Muller stuff is there some suggestion that the president's tweets could have been interpreted as obstruction of justice to which I say I'm no lawyer but you can't tell me that a tweet in public from the president could ever be obstruction of justice all right now again I'm no lawyer so if Ellen dtz tells me tomorrow oh yeah could totally be obstruction of justice I'll just change my mind to whatever he says but I can't believe that in a world where you can give your your feelings on in social media you can give your opinions you can even lie on social media you can do anything except I suppose you know whatever would be the you know specific kinds of problems like uh you know defaming somebody or something like that or making you know product claims

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that or making you know product claims that aren't real I suppose you could find some things that are illegal but I can't imagine that saying you think something's a Witch Hunt or somebody should get fired or or even talking about the possibility of Pardons as long as you're saying it in public how in the world could that be obstruction of justice he's saying it in public and pardons exist everybody was talking about it well is the president the only person who can't talk about pardons literally everybody was talking about pardons at least you know the concept of it so I can't in any way imagine that the law would ever come down on the side that a president tweeting in public his opinion or his feelings could ever be anything but free speech I just can't say it but I could also have my mind changed in about a second and a half if alers Choice disagrees with

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alers Choice disagrees with me um somebody said he absolutely can obstruct Justice in public well you'd have to give me a an example that would be relevant to this case right I could imagine some different case where maybe that's possible situation I haven't thought of but for this situation I don't I don't see that the Supreme Court would ever go down on the side of that
um well you can't obstruct Justice technically if there's no crime but the the uh reality of anybody getting the reality of a president being convicted for that when you could see that he was trying to get past it so he could do his job as president for the people the odds of getting um the the odds of uh getting prosecuted for that are about

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um Flyn pardon yeah it seems like it does seem to me that the a Flyn pardon is likely so I would say more likely than not you'll see a Flyn
pardon here uh so some of you might be aware
of I had this weird situation on the internet and I'm not going to name the person involved but let's just say there's a an internet personality who believed for much of yesterday it was the day before he believed that he and I were in some kind of a a debate or having an argument online and because he believed it was happening it wasn't happening but since he believed it was uh he believed it was then people pour down to to tell me that he had destroyed me and um uh what was it he flattened me in the comments to which I said I'm in a conversation with him I didn't even know we were talking about anything and so masses of people came to

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anything and so masses of people came to believe that we had had some kind of a disagreement on facts and I don't even know what they would be and that we had had some kind of conflict and that people were taking sides and then they started attacking me and the whole time I kept thinking who is he who is he I don't even know who he is I mean I know like his name but I don't know anything about him or why I care somebody somebody made a simple comment about how his Periscope statistics were hard to explain and I said yeah some comment to the effect of that it's on likely and here's what was unlikely the it was that I've got 880,000 followers on Periscope and I get about 20,000 people watching each Periscope uh so 80,000 people to get about 20,000 people who watch each Periscope this other person would get

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Periscope this other person would get about 5,000 viewers and still get 20,000 Watchers to which I said it looks unlikely now I don't know what the explanation is that and it could be that there's a perfectly simple explanation and and if there's a simple explanation I'd say oh okay but on the surface it just looks unlikely that those numbers could make sense his response which he said quote flattened me was he showed a screenshot of the minutes the people are you are watching his Periscope which wasn't even the
the topic so he responded with something that was a completely different topic and and declared Victory and then I had to watch this huge mental health outpouring of people who said yeah he gotta you know take the loss Scott He nailed you he just made an idiot of you

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nailed you he just made an idiot of you you know you might as well admit he just flattened you and the whole time I was saying oh I don't even think I'm in a conversation I don't even know what this is about I talked about something and he talked about something else and then declared Victory so I guess I got owned I got owned and then he and then he and then he came up with the the weasel move that ah it was all the clever trick Scott don't you know that the real trick was to get your followers over there and then they would follow me and I picked up
followers to which I thought well good for
for you I don't care good good for him if he picked up some followers so don't know who he is don't know why I care I just know that he imagined he was in some kind of a conversation with me and he won he totally won the imaginary contest that we didn't have all right um yeah so Nadler have you seen

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right um yeah so Nadler have you seen the video I think scavino tweeted it out and it showed Jerry Nadler uh the old Jerry nler in the new one and uh I have to give Jerry nler credit because um it looked like in the 90s or whatever it looked like he was seriously overweight and now he's maybe half of the size he probably weighs half of what he weighed in the 90s so first thing is congratulations good job um but what I want to know is if he lost half of his body weight in that many years how long would we have to wait before he's completely gone so so far he's half gone but I'm really looking forward to the other half how long it takes him to shrink down to nothing and and then people will say where where's where's old
old nads does anybody see old nads no he just sort of disappeared just shrunk

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just sort of disappeared just shrunk down um anyway I'm going to go now and do some other things and I will talk to you later