Episode 476 Scott Adams: President Trump can Save the Planet With a Tweet, FentanylChina, Beyonce

Date: 2019-04-01 | Duration: 45:04

Topics

President Trump Tweets about origin of Russian Collusion hoax “Fine People” (Charlottesville) hoax is finally being exposed, but Robert Tracinski (Bulwark) says we are gaslighting Charlie Sykes tweets, spreading the Bulwark hoax Beyonce, Biden and uninvited kissing, touching, snuggling President Trump has two major topics to address Healthcare and climate change President Trump could save the planet with ONE tweet Whiteboard: Saving the Planet via Tweet Lamar Alexander, has a reputation of being reasonable Green Manhattan Project Gen IV is the path BOTH political parties should embrace Guest: Mark Schneider, Nuclear expert Mark’s thoughts on Scott’s whiteboard discussion #GreenNuclearDeal North Korea could potentially SAVE THE WORLD No restrictive regulations NK could embrace transitioning to Gen IV development

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[Music] um hey everybody I'm a couple minutes late I had to take a few minutes to change the world as usual has anybody notice that the world is weirdly going my way does anybody notice that is it just me because I'm starting to think this whole simulation theory is not only true but it's weirdly corresponding to how I want it to unfold let me give you an example think about the things that I've talked about the most one is fentanyl today the news is that China decided to move ahead and I made first they will classify all the forms of fentanyl in China as I guess whatever class allows them to execute somebody who's selling illegally now I'm not sure that's enough feels like a step in the

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that's enough feels like a step in the right direction but I guess the precursors are still not completely illegal and we don't know how much they're gonna enforce it so I would say it's a positive sign however until you hear that China is literally executing fentanyl dealers you should assume there's not happening all right but in the meantime can we drink to this maybe a good sign on Fenton all join me please raise your cup your glass your chalice your stein your tankard your thermos fill it with your favorite liquid I like coffee and join me for the simultaneous sip yeah somebody in the comments says it's a trade war chip so certainly it has to be viewed in that context now if you remember yesterday I

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remember yesterday I I started to talk about how the Russian conspiracy or collusion hoax all started and if you remember I had this awkward situation because I thought I knew how it all started and then I looked at a source and then the source was once again ambiguous and I had to stop in the middle and say oh okay turns out the biggest story in the country for the past two years and for some reason I didn't know how it started like how did the investigation start and I thought how in the world could I as much as I watch the news how could I not know that so I I took my lumps and just admitted in front of the public okay I guess I'm the only person in the world who doesn't know how this thing started and then the president tweets yesterday and the president's tweet was nobody can figure out how it started so it turns out that the President of

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so it turns out that the President of the United States also doesn't know how it started I tweeted out a Dan bungee no article in which he's he's got a much better command of the facts than any of us do and he he lays it out a strong argument that it was the dossier others have said it's something about Papadopoulos but i guess they didn't even talk to Papadopoulos until after the dossier had kicked off the investigation I think that's that's Dan's version of events this sounds sounds credible to me and I imagine it's what's bunchy know has been saying for a long time it's probably this book so if you want to find out more I would read damp on Gino's book so here's another thing that seems to be going my way you know these Charlottesville hoaxes that I've been working on trying to

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that I've been working on trying to highlight and if anybody's brand-new I know most of you heard this before but the hoax is that President Trump called the Nazis in charlottesville fine people when in fact his actual quote when you see it in context he calls them out specifically and says no not the neo-nazis and the white supremacists they should be condemned totally so this morning I wake up to a desperate article in something called Ross story in which somebody has written a very long article trying to tear apart what they call the gas lighting of the Charlottesville situation now their version is that people like Steve Cortez people like me people like Joel although we were not named Steve Cortes was but the idea is that we're trying to revise the history and turn it into a hoax when he's sure it's a real thing now here's a

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he's sure it's a real thing now here's a little just a mental filter for determining truth from untruth now I tweeted around the article in which he's claiming yet that he's claiming he's being gas landed here are some clues that the article that says it's all it's all a big hoax he sort of thing is illegitimate number one it accuses someone of gas lighting I promise you you've never seen gas lighting I know lots of you say you have I know somebody who did it there this other person and must be doing it I'm positive it's real now here you have not seen it you think yeah most people think they have but gas lighting is what you're trying to make somebody literally believe they're crazy so then you can get away with stuff nobody's trying to do that people are just trying to

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do that people are just trying to explain the facts as they understand them that's all there nobody has a there's no secret plot and by the way I can speak to this quite and that this is one of those national stories they're usually you have to read minds you have to make some assumptions about what other people are thinking in this particular case I'm pretty sure I'm the guy who started this I mean personally I'm actually the person who had the thought hey this news is wrong why don't I see if I can correct it it's sort of a good time to do it so I'm telling you you don't have to read anybody's mind if you're the person most of you just read the news and you're looking at the news and you're saying I wonder what that person in the news did I wonder what that person in the news was thinking but on this particular news even though Steve Cortes was called out by name in the article I am the one who started it

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the article I am the one who started it all right let let's be perfectly clear this was me sitting there saying well this news is totally bad and it's bad for the country it's it's a it's a fake news that's bad for the whole country let's see if I can fix this and so I embarked on a mission to see if I could fix it now Steve Cortes has helped tremendously on that with articles and and mentioning it on TV jewelle Pollak has had several tweets and articles that really clearly lay it out and so when you watch the news you're wondering how something started or wondering what people are thinking I'm not wondering that because I am the news I am literally I'm literally patient one I personally looked at this situation said this is Faber's I think I'll go fix it so you don't have it and so so those of you who are watching this

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so so those of you who are watching this you still there's no way you can know that I'm not lying right I mean you can trust me or maybe you say I've seen you for a while and I believe it maybe you've looked at the facts and you know I got the facts correct so but still you're still deducing right you still have to use a little bit of judgment that I'm telling the truth or not
not but I don't I have to have to employ any judgment whatsoever I'm literally the news I'm the guy who sat there and said huh this news is fake it's bad for the country really bad for the country like super bad for the country if I could fix this fake news this will be really good for the country that's it I was not trying to Gaslight anybody nor have I ever I have never gasps elated anybody it would not be ethical and I don't even know if it would work I don't even know if I could do it I mean but I wouldn't even try so I'll never fight now anyway

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even try so I'll never fight now anyway that's happening oh here's it here's the other way to tell if something's fake here's my version of Charlotte's ville and then read the page after page after page of the guy who's trying to call it a gas lighting situation look at the length of how much description he has to go through and now here's my description obviously the president wasn't talking about the racist because he said so in direct language that's it that's my story my story is you don't have to wonder if he were referring to the racist he said in clear language now I'm not talking about those people the worst thing you could say after seeing that clear fact this unambiguous he did say it is recorded as it's in text in the transcript the worst thing you could say about the president is he may have been under informed about who was there totally reasonable but that doesn't make

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totally reasonable but that doesn't make you racist being under informed by the topic would just be everyday now on top of that the New York Times reported you know they actually interviewed somebody who's there for non racist reasons they were and and I've since read up on it and there are a number of militias who were there and the militias there at least their public statement of who they are you know you don't know again you can't read minds but their public statement of who they are is that they're not racists and they were not there for any racist purposes they apparently these militia groups go to events where ever free speech is risk or where there might be violence and maybe they need a little security so some of them were they're actually trying to break up fights if you're breaking up a fight you're you're not a terrible person all right suck about something else did you see Beyonce's kiss so the news is

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you see Beyonce's kiss so the news is chattering because Omar somebody some actor went up to Beyonce at the Beatty Awards I guess and I don't know how well he knew her or if he would if he was just meeting her for the first time but he gives her a big hug and a kiss on the cheek and then after saying something in here it looked like tried to give her a closing second kiss that was sort of like on the corner of her mouth and everybody was like or that looks awkward we haven't heard from Beyonce so we don't know how she felt about it but simply the fact that it's in the news brings attention to Joe Biden yeah you can't even look at the it's impossible to look at the Beyonce story and now think of Joe Biden so now the african-american community has seen the Beyonce thing which I would say most people probably probably majority I don't know that but it feels like probably majority would say oh that

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probably majority would say oh that looked a little inappropriate and now they're hearing a connected to Joe Biden so so whatever creepiness they felt about the Beyonce kiss situation is being you know conflated with and starting to become the Biden story even though it isn't they just happened to be have one similarity and during the news at the same time now there's one famous picture of Joe Biden sort of holding the shoulders of ash Carter's wife when he's being giving a speech being sworn in I guess and that was one of the famous pictures that goes around and people say well there's another picture of Joe inappropriately touching so the woman in the picture has made statement today to say now you're reading this all wrong we've been longtime friends and I was nervous to be in public and he was just calming me down by you know having his hands on my shoulders to which I say if you ever want to calm me down don't put

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you ever want to calm me down don't put your hands on my shoulders if you were nervous about something if you were nervous to be on stage would you feel less nervous if the Vice President of the United States stood on stage with you with his hands on your shoulder I don't think I would so that's a separate question so the separate question is does it make you less nervous tabs the vice president's hands on your shoulders I I don't think it would make me less nervous that's just me I can't read her mind anyway she has in her opinion she has cleared the vice president of any creepiness or wrongdoing and says that there was there's no there's no there there there's no story there but it's not the only picture so there gonna be a lot of pictures flying around on that topic all right but keep in mind that the real story here is how many times

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the real story here is how many times Biden has to explain this the way and I think Democrats are fast-forwarding in their mind what it would look like to have Joe Biden as their standard bearer and they're gonna turn on the news every day and find out that once again their standard bearer the person that they're trying to put in there to compensate for the horrible monster that is Trump every day he has to explain a new allegation of being a little too touchy now even if it turns out there's absolutely nothing to this except he doesn't he's not good with boundaries and then I think that's entirely possible that there's nothing else to it it's not a good look and I don't think there's any chance that you could make it to the to the nomination all right there's a weird yeah I don't want to talk there's a poll from CNBC says 58% of Democrats so a strong majority of

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Democrats so a strong majority of Democrats feel more confident about saving for retirement than they did three years ago do you know what was happening about three years ago we had an election somewhere around that period so 58% of Democrats are feeling more confident about their economic situation under trunk now I'm not saying Trump did all of that yeah very much in the camp that says Obama you know got us to a to a place where growth was easier you know the things were improving the whole time that Obama was elected but from a political perspective just from a political perspective I don't know how anybody wins against an economy this strong I had it how do you beat that that's just a tough tough thing to beat but turns out that the president has a couple of weaknesses at least according

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couple of weaknesses at least according to the people who would vote against him one weakness is health care and the other big weakness is climate change now if you're a Republican you probably say yourself at some version of those aren't problems at all but remember if you say those were not problems at all except that maybe Obamacare is a problem and it could go away if if that's what you think and I'm not saying you shouldn't think that I'm just saying if you do think that you were going to vote for Trump anyway all right so you're already a safe vote but if he wants to influence other people get any independence if he wants to get any independence he's gonna have to deal with climate change and he's gonna have to deal with healthcare now the president has cheekily said that the Republicans will come up with a great health care plan and it'll be the best one I don't know if that's true I don't know if that's true

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don't know if that's true I mean I'm gonna say maybe it's possible you know certainly if the president came up with a package of things that they're doing that unambiguously would lower prices then I think they might have something to sell and I think that there's a good chance they'll come up with some kind of a plan so I would say the the verdict is still out on health care the president is very exposed on that so if he doesn't if he doesn't hit at least uh well I'd say the president has to hit at least a double on health care doesn't maybe doesn't need to hit a homerun but he's gotta hit a double he's got to come up with a story that an independent could look at and say yeah compared to this other plan yeah it looks like it's just as good or better maybe he could do that I have my I'm skeptical myself I have been a big supporter of the president in terms of

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supporter of the president in terms of his technique and his capabilities but on health care in particular we have not seen the goods so that so I can't support what he's doing there because he hasn't done enough but the things they have done actually quite good the the changes with a generic that they they did a fast-track for the generic drugs which almost certainly will lower prices with more competition but let's talk about how the president could save the planet with one tweet so that was the title of my provocative periscope year and I'm going to make the case that the president could save the planet with one tweets and um as you know the president's ability to make everybody focus wherever he tweets is legendary so if he tweets a topic the the press on both sides are gonna say alright we've got to talk about this topic so the one thing that nobody doubts is that the

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thing that nobody doubts is that the president can make you look at a topic and so here's how he could tweet out a solution to climate change and here's the beauty even if climate change is not the problem that the scientists believe even if it's not this path is the same because it's such a good idea just on its own for economic reasons because of pollution for national security for for deca you know for every on every other level it's good but here's what he could do just hypothetically you know I want you to just you know feel how easy this would be let's say that the president tweeted about Lamar Alexander's proposal for a Manhattan Project a green Manhattan Project if you don't know who Lamar Alexander is he's a he's a retiring suitor retire senator Republican who I believe is famous for

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Republican who I believe is famous for being reasonable so correct me if I'm wrong but I think Lamar Alexander is in this small category of of politicians who are known to be known to be reasonable in other words they can they can compromise etc so he's got an idea for a green Manhattan Project meaning that the United States would get really serious about supporting the the rapid development and testing of safe nuclear power now here's the great thing if climate changes the problem the smartest people in the world say nuclear is the only way to deal with it and I'm not talking about the old unsafe nuclear power plants of the past the kind that are mostly the ones in the United States I'm talking about generation for new kinds of plants that eat nuclear waste for fuel how great is that and they're designed so that there's essentially

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designed so that there's essentially zero meltdown risk because if everything goes wrong it just sort of just stops working that's what that's what's new but they still need to develop it a lot because having it on paper is different from going into production so they need to iterate it a lot to get the technology working so this
Green Manhattan Project would be the way to do that get the government behind a rapid iteration of this technology so here's what it would look like for the president to save the whole planet with one tweet here's how we do it you just have to do a tweet talking about the green Manhattan Project because the president and I think maybe the president could could brand that a little bit better you know the the best branding person in politics of all time which is Trump he might be able to brand that a little bit better but may have

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that a little bit better but may have had projects pretty good so let's just go with that for now and then if he mentioned generation four plants so that anybody who saw that would say to themselves two things what is this green Manhattan Project so you first you want people ask what the heck is that and then you also want them to to say what is a generation for a nuclear plant so if you were to tweet that the press would have to write about it because they can't ignore a presidential tweet of that substance so the press would write about it and if the press were smart they would use my company's app the interface by Wayne hub app that's free and they would look for an expert on nuclear power they might find and and they would find one so let me talk about that in a little bit so Mark Snyder for

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that in a little bit so Mark Snyder for example is on the app and he's an expert on the new generation for nuclear stuff so he could talk to the press so the press could just pick up their phone and they could say I don't know anything about this generation for nuclear stuff is this for real who do I talk to and they find an expert and they have a personal conversation right on the app and they say okay I you know they've learned about it and they know that it's a it doesn't melt down and all that so that in the press educates the public if the public is not educated then the then the government doesn't do anything so the public has to make Congress act now here's the interesting thing about this there are very few topics where the far left and the far right would completely agree the only reason and this is this is a strong statement right the only reason that anybody would object to

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reason that anybody would object to nuclear is if they were not educated on the new the new technology all right I have not yet seen a single person who once they heard about generation for nuclear said it was a bad idea nor have I heard any smart person who understands it say that it isn't the obvious best approach to climate risk now you don't even have to say that climate change is man-made or anything else but do you you can acknowledge there's risk and whether or not that risk exists no matter what size that risk is nuclear is still the answer it's the answer if there's zero risk and it's an answer if there's a hundred percent risk it would be exactly the same path and there and here's the thing there are no other paths you know if you talk to the experts well let's say if you talk to the public the public will say stuff like hey let's have some

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will say stuff like hey let's have some wind power you know let's improve our solar it's getting better every year it's so much better than it used to be if it just keeps getting better at the rate it's getting well we'll have all the solar and you know batteries to store it and all that stuff but if you talk to the people who are actually the scientists the engineers the people close to these questions they will tell you that there is no path to that you just can't get there as quickly as you would need to using using just wind and solar you can't get to the finish line before we're all dead from climate change if climate change is the risk that the scientists say so there is only one path it's nuclear in fact if you were to ask Al Gore somebody said Al Gore question blur I don't know the answer that but I would bet you a large amount of money that if you talk to Al Gore and said what about generation for nuclear that you would have a positive response actually I'll ask that question if

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actually I'll ask that question if there's anybody if there's anybody who can connect me with Al Gore to just talk about that question I'd love to have him on my periscope I've actually I've met Al Gore and we've chatted so he knows who I am so if he wants to come on I would love to because I'm a I've always been a fan of Al Gore even if you're not I know some of you or not but I'm just telling you I've always liked them as a politician anyway if Congress acts on this you know green Manhattan Project or some version of it private industry will be able to more quickly iterate and then you've got generation four nuclear plants and you've solved the world now what which part of this is not feasible is it is it feasible for the president to send a tweet yeah that's feasible how hard is that it is a feasible for the press to

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it is a feasible for the press to investigate generation for nuclear and find out that it really is the answer yes of course it's feasible it's easy well in fact they could do it in about ten minutes they just Google a couple of articles use the interface by when Hub app talk to an expert BAM nobody is going to come to a different conclusion well you should never say nobody I doubt anybody's going to come to a different conclusion will the can the press get the public to buy in to generation for nuclear yes the press can get the public to buy into anything the only time that the press can't do that is when there are two sides of an issue and they're and they're both persuading their own side to hate the other side in the rare situation were the left and the right press are on the same team and they should be in this in their rare situation yes they can convince the public of anything where do

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convince the public of anything where do you think the public gets their opinions the public doesn't come up with their own opinions that's not a thing the public gets their opinions from the press so can the press convince the public yeah easily easily that's that's trivial once the public buys in can the public get Congress to act yes if they're all on the same side the only time you can't get Congress to act is when there's there's a deep division but with generation for nuclear there would not be once people have been educated on it so yeah totally Congress can make a law and it wouldn't be hard to make a law this simply makes it easier for private industry to iterate to get licenses to have you know maybe facilities they can go to to share information whatever it is whatever is in there yeah this is all doable stuff and then once in this industry gets involved in iterating would they be able

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involved in iterating would they be able to engineer their way to some easily reproducible and safe nuclear power suddenly mentioned Bill Gates I'm pretty sure that what I just described here is a hundred percent compatible with what Bill Gates sees as the way forward I can't speak for him so this that's my opinion of his opinion take that for what it's worth but I believe he would be completely on board with this as would here's the trick watch how there's no pushback on this but it just just hold in your head for a moment the enormity of what I'm suggesting here like how big a change this would be for the world how important it would be how much of an economic impact it would have what it would do from bringing bringing people together just think about the enormity of it and then ask yourself who are the people speaking out against it and wait for it who also know what

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and wait for it who also know what generation for nuclear is I propose they you might never see everybody speak out against us as in nobody you might actually not see any pushback once they understand what it is you'll see lots of pushback but it will be entirely from people who are thinking of the old nuclear technologies all right yeah there would be a tremendous strategic benefit to it because we Whitney at the Middle East less potentially talked to Bill Gates yeah we'd love to if I could find a way to get to him that would be amazing anti-fog would empty far be against it I don't know now I noticed that Mark Snyder has just joined and I'm going to see if I can get him on this call hold

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see if I can get him on this call hold on I'm gonna change my microphone bear with me cheap operation we got going here all right let's see I think mark is joined yeah all right we're gonna invite mark in I want to see see if I've explained this right mark you're there
mark yes got out here oh I did you hear my did you see my little presentation on the whiteboard I don't know if you caught all of that I did I had some Wi-Fi issues aside to do some switch up so I popped off okay your your voices kind of faint to me I'm not sure it's possible that the audience hears it better but if you could speak up a little bit it would be great yeah so what do you agree that what I drew out

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what do you agree that what I drew out on the whiteboard is all feasible I would agree and where do you see would be the biggest problem in any of this is if there is a big problem I don't even know if there is I would say the big problem is the media itself and their anti-nuclear rhetoric so if the media could be convinced but it seems to me that the media would be easy in this specific case because the media likes a story about a different way to do stuff the the media does not like stories here's a little media tip for all of you the media does not like stories of things that are just a good job doing things we already knew how to do that's not a story the the media likes a story that's a new way to do something so the generation four fits into that it's a it's a new twist on something that people didn't understand it's a new way of doing things it saves the world it fits into every political story so I think the press would find

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story so I think the press would find that it's very clickable which is really all they care about so if you can make it clickable through the president's let's say if the president you know put some attention on Lamar Alexander's plan they only have to make it clickable the president does he doesn't have to change their minds he only has to make the topic more clickable than other topics and then the public will see what they need to see to be convinced Barca sir anything else you want to add on that we we had a side conversation that I want the audience near in which servers talk about how we couldn't create enough of the materials we need to create batteries so even if everybody had if if you could imagine everybody had an electric car instead of two percent of the people having electric cars we wouldn't be able to do it because there just isn't enough way to strip-mine land

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just isn't enough way to strip-mine land to get all these materials but you had you had a thought on how generation four had an influence on that could you could you tell the audience that yeah specifically you spoke about the lack of cobalt and lithium those are actually two materials that throughout my nuclear career we produce often as just a byproduct of the nuclear process all right so says since your audio is faith I'm going to repeat that in case anybody is having trouble hearing it so cobalt and lithium are the two the two materials that might be in short supply and what mark saying is that the nuclear process actually creates those as is it as a byproduct is it a natural byproduct or do they have to intentionally make it it's it's it's both intentional and in the byproduct yes and it is that is that way of making these materials through the nuclear process would we be able to make enough

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process would we be able to make enough of it to solve the shortage if we went to a large nuclear capacity in the in the world I think we could but currently no so currently no but we could take a bite out of it yes okay over the long long term alright so that is good to know as well mark what do you know about Lamar Alexander's green Manhattan Project idea because I don't I don't know any of the details is raising in there that's especially good or bad or is it just sort of conceptual at this point it's conceptual at this point but I think it's a good concept you know creating that competition between a couple locations to figure out how to iterate nuclear would be great now correct me if I'm wrong but are there not now three separate government initiatives on nuclear power there's Rick Perry's the thing in the energy

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Rick Perry's the thing in the energy department where they're going to be rapidly testing nuclear fuels that's one of them I got that right am i right that's correct and then there's a Lamar Alexander green Manhattan Project but there was another one that I'm forgetting right now what was the the other one that happened recently that's not Neela that Senator Murkowski just endorsed oh and so that is a plan to build test sites for nuclear what how do you describe that you know I have to dig into that more but I do believe it's about three basically it's the iteration aspect right so if any of you remember when I navall rava can't unhear now Duvall is famous for being you know probably the smartest person in the world in the area of startups and you know entrepreneurship so he's sort of like the guy you'd go to if that he runs he's started AngelList which is the biggest you know site for startups so he knows what he's talking about and one of the things he said when I talked to him on

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things he said when I talked to him on periscope is that the problem with nuclear is that there's no way to iterate the technology in other words try this test this try this test this until you got it right because of the dangers and because of the the public and government pushback so now we've seen three government efforts directly aimed at that specific problem so all three of the things we just mentioned should they get up and running and you know should the Lamar Alexander plan become tangible they would all be directly addressing this question of whether you could iterate your technology and that's that is such a Republican approach to a problem I've said this before that the the Republican let's say conservative approach tends to be how can we make a system that we don't know exactly how it's going to work out but if we keep using the system we know it's going to be better than if we don't whereas the green New Deal

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we don't whereas the green New Deal people the people on the Left tend to operate from a goal perspective they say all right our goal is to have equality our goal is to have green energy our goal is to solve climate change and then you say how and they say well we'll figure that out someday but we got a goal whereas the Republicans say I'm not going to make it a goal to fix climate change per se because I got some questions and I'm not gonna make it a goal to have you know some kind of equal outcomes because I don't wouldn't have to do that but I do know how to create a system that if you use the system in this case iterating technology it's a known system it always works you know it's worked in every area there's a tried but you don't know exactly where it ends up and that's a you know a feature of systems is that you know it improves your odds of really good stuff but you don't know exactly which of

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but you don't know exactly which of those really good things are gonna happen you just let just know good things are gonna happen so we've got that going on I would say mark have you ever seen this much energy around nuclear not my lifetime now and when would you say that this started getting hot in terms of at least what we're hearing about must been a lot of stuff behind the scenes but what if you could identify when everybody started talking about this was there an obvious uptick yeah I'm gonna give myself credit here in the obvious uptick when I created the green nuclear deal hashtag yeah that's what I think so mark created the hashtag hashtag green nuclear deal I've used it a lot other people if uses a lot now and it just raised to people's consciousness that there was a path and that it just coincidentally it's the luckiest thing

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coincidentally it's the luckiest thing in the world that the path a forward just happens to be the only path you could ever imagine we're both the far left and the far right would say yeah this sounds good to me potentially once everybody's educated on the pluses and minuses all right mark thank you for that is there anything else you want to add that people don't understand I'm gonna add a quick plug for North Korea here in that North Korea borders probably the three most prolific nuclear power users China Russia and South Korea and they could be a great place to iterate nuclear power with their lack of regulations yeah so again if if the sound isn't good for some of you mark was saying that North Korea could have a path I'm going to add this part there might be easy way to transition from their military nuclear resources which they wouldn't want to give up into to a peaceful nuclear situation what

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to a peaceful nuclear situation what would you say mark is the cross over knowledge like if you were a nuclear engineer for weapons how much of what you already know is transferable to peaceful generation for nuclear technology I would say it's 70% transferable and you just have to go 30% into operation and reactor design right and that's the part that we can help with so we could actually be bringing to North Korea and other countries could there are design ideas North Korea being a place of low regulation and probably presumably enough you know land area that they can find safe places to do things just in case that maybe North Korea's solution forward is to transfer their technology and save the world Kim Jong gun can actually save the world now if you said to Kim jong-un I'll give you you know two options here you can either do what you've been doing and be the you know the dictator you Battin etc

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the you know the dictator you Battin etc or you could be part of a big part of saving the whole world because you're in the unique place you have all this expertise you have the ability to you know manage your your country and a way others don't you know come join us and save the world and you can be a safe a safe leader if you do that there might be a way out you know the problem with dictators is they don't have an off-ramp it's hard to go from a dictator to you know the retirement home you know usually end up dead so we would have to create a path that is unambiguously good for the Kim dynasty shall we say and and that would be a heck of a path I mean that's save the world stuff and make some money in the meantime all right so thank you for thank you for that mark and I will talk to you soon okay thanks all right so mark Schneider on the

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all right so mark Schneider on the interface by one hub app if anybody wants to go ask him additional questions about the potential for nuclear that would be the place to go and if you're the press if you remember the press you definitely want to talk yeah as your starting point to try to understand the nuclear option all right the entire model of dealing with foreign powers could change yeah we're talking about something that would fundamentally change how countries interact that's true that would make a change somebody says give me 45 seconds to talk to you let's see if you're on here well I don't see you on here so do do do all right I think that's enough for today and I will talk to you tomorrow