Episode 474 Scott Adams: Trump Solving Climate Change, Mueller TDS, Creepy Joe

Date: 2019-03-30 | Duration: 47:58

Topics

Bill Gates tweets bi-partisan group of Senators announcement (Clean, Safe Nuclear Power) Nuclear Energy Leadership Act Gen IV nuclear power isn’t subject to meltdown “AOC sucks!” Chant at Trump rally Her persuasion skill set is solid, don’t underestimate her Barr’s 4 page summary being called possibly diff than Mueller report CNN poll on Mueller exonerating President Trump 86% said Mueller results won’t impact their vote The Left have no options to hear the real news Right leaning media offers more of the other sides views Polls show Biden is the clear preference of people on the left Media and the DNC elite prefer Kamala The people’s preference, or the media’s preference? Kamala doesn’t come across as warm and genuine

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pom pom pom pom pom pom pom pom pom hello divine girl and Nolan and the next person coming in Bali and and mark and Jeff and Maria it's good to see all of you and I'm sure that being the prepared people that you are you are ready with your beverage you probably have a diner a glass or a cup or mug you might have a thermos or a tankard you may have filled it with your favorite liquid it might be coffee and now please join me for the unparalleled pleasure of the simultaneous sip ah I think I got the simultaneity just right that time mmm extra good mmm well the waiting just keeps on coming and what I say the winning I'm talking about President Trump and when I say

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about President Trump and when I say winning I mean as CNN would report chaos in the White House there's chaos it's all breaking down the world is going to hell I'm there part of the world and the other part of the world things are going great let me tell you the most exciting news it goes like this Bill Gates Bill Gates and let me let me start off by saying I've said this before but Bill Gates might be my only actual hero because he here's what I like them early in his career when people were accusing him of being a robber baron capitalist who was crushing the competition and everything else they said about him he was saying way back then that his purpose was to give away all of his money or you know 90% or whatever it is and then sure enough years go by he builds the Gates Foundation and he starts giving away his

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Foundation and he starts giving away his money in a smarter more effective way than anyone has ever done anything like this so he was the best capitalist we ever had at the time and now he's the best philanthropist we've ever had and I would go beyond that and say that he may have just saved the world let me say that again he went from the best capitalist we remember now arguably to the best philanthropist I think most people would agree the Gates Foundation was you know worlds beyond probably anything and it looks like and I don't think I'm exaggerating this he may have saved the world and what I mean by that is that his opinion on things carries more weight than most people so in the rare occasions where his opinion is against let's say the administration's impulses or that or the public he can break through so he's his signal breaks through the noise better

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signal breaks through the noise better than almost anybody because you can't even tell what party he's in he's with you you don't really know is he a Democrat because it seems like you know he's socially liberal but he's also sort of a common sense whatever works kind of guy so I don't think you could really put him in a box which also helps his his message here's what I'm getting to he tweeted yesterday that a bipartisan group of leaders in the US Senate how often to hear that a bipartisan group of senators what that rarely happens right but on this topic you did there a bipartisan and they introduced the nuclear energy Leadership Act which establishes an ambitious plan to here come's accelerate the development of advanced nuclear reactor technologies and then Gates finishes his tweet with I can't overstate how important this is and he's

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overstate how important this is and he's right he couldn't overstate it that's one of those times where it looks like an exaggeration but it's not he can't overstate how important this is because most of the world believes that climate change is going to destroy the world and this is literally the only feasible way to address it it's the only way so there are two parts of the world let's say the people who believe climate change is do big us all and a lot of people who think it's no big problem and it's overstated and it's a hoax but in both cases everybody wants nuclear power they don't know they want it yet but they do because it's the only way to save the world if climate change is a risk and it's the only way to move forward and not waste a bunch of money on solar and wind and things that don't have as much impact if there's no risk both sides in

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impact if there's no risk both sides in order to save the world according to how they see it one side is saving the world from warming the other side is trying to save the world from wasting money doing the wrong thing to address climate change so both sides see a potential end of the economy at least if not into the world if things go wrong and yet there has been and always will and always was a solution that worked for both sides now in our current split world where if one side wants something the other side automatically says they're the devil and nothing like that can work it's very unusual that anybody can break through that that two sides noise go right through the middle of it with enough signal-to-noise ratio as though Gates has to say hey everybody it doesn't even matter what you think it doesn't matter what you think about climate change it's

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what you think about climate change it's still the right thing to do because the technology isn't mature mature in the sense that we do know we can build nuclear reactors at less risk and less impact on the economy than every other source that's new nuisance let's say the 60s the nuclear power plants we have in this country are sort of 60s era generation they are dangerous relatively speaking because they could meltdown the new ones can't meltdown they're built so that they can't there's no mechanism that would allow that to happen physically it can't happen so but there's still much development and iteration that needs to go on and so the big push here is some kind of I don't want to call it a Manhattan Project but it's in that direction it's it's sort of a concentrated high-end government effort to to accelerate the development

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effort to to accelerate the development of advanced nuclear reactor technology now how much of you heard me talking about this a lot right and so I'm gonna have mark Schneider on next week Tuesday I think and we're gonna talk about the technologies a little bit catch people up but here's the thing President Trump has called famously called climate change a Chinese hoax I assume there's some hyperbole built into that but that generally he does believe that the the risk and the projections are are hoax them now whether or not he's right about that is irrelevant to the fact that this is the right way to go but the the weird thing here is that the president who his sceptical is the most skeptical of climate change probably just solved it probably just

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probably just solved it probably just solved it because there was only one way to go for a solution Bill Gates has really looked into this Bill Gates doesn't say stuff like this you know just because he read somebody's tweet he's done a deep dive he's visited the sites he has a massive investment himself in new nuclear technology but nobody believes that Bill Gates is doing this for the money right if there's one thing you can be sure if Bill Gates put his money into nuclear technology it wasn't because he thought that was the best place to get it a good a return on his investment it might be I mean it could end up being a good return but you know that's not why he put his money there right he's doing it for social purposes that way that I think we can all trust so this is this is close to being the biggest news of my lifetime it just doesn't seem like it yet and I think

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doesn't seem like it yet and I think that that's a fair statement this might be the biggest news of my lifetime because it's such a massive transition to you know cleaner power that it has massive global social civil impact you know more than war I would say I would say this is bigger than the Iraq war wouldn't you say I mean because as more impact on potential life and death over time I'd say this is bigger than let's say what's the bigger then it's bigger than the Vietnam War it's bigger than 9/11 what what is bigger than this I can't think of anything that's bigger news than the fact that the United States just decided to take a full push into clean safe nuclear power in terms of civilization transformation I mean even if you think about it even our

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even if you think about it even our ability to colonize space yeah that's right well the moon landing was big news but didn't make a big difference because it's not like we built colonies on the moon right after that so the moon the moon landing was big in terms of our psychological situation it did help the technological development a lot so a lot of those technologies have have you know seeped into the public to good effect so yeah that was pretty big I would say not the landing on the moon but the technology that went into it was big but not this big this is bigger than that bigger than a smartphone
that's a good one somebody said is is this nuclear announcement bigger than the smartphone good question it's different the smartphone is reprogramming what it means to be a human being so that's pretty big you

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human being so that's pretty big you know I would say that the smartphone signals are transitioned from organic species into a combined organic digital species because your phone is really part of you now so you know I guess you could make an argument that that the evolution of human beings into into cyborgs which is what we are at the moment that's a big deal I'll give you that one that might be bigger than this but it's big all right now let me ask you another question how much persuasion does it take for something like this to become active in the government do you think Bill Gates got it done on his own do you think Bill Gates was the primary mover of this because I don't know how much direct lobbying he does with Congress but he writes and talks a lot and I'm sure that people in Congress

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and I'm sure that people in Congress have seen his opinions and on this but you've also been watching for the past year so for the past year what have I been advising on this this periscope primarily with the help of Mark who we'll be talking to on Tuesday so Marsh Schneider who's an expert in nuclear power has been my my my personal let's say guru for that category and I've been saying that for quite a while that the United States needs to do something like a Manhattan Project for a clean safe nuclear power and that's that's what I think Mark's been advocating for that for a long time as well and I didn't know this was even brewing did you did any of you know that this was even being considered and so here's the question I asked you who else in the United States was

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who else in the United States was advocating publicly I know a lot of people privately were savings but how many how many media sources were advocating for this because yeah a lot of us individually were doing it but how many people were doing it publicly besides Bill Gates and besides me and besides Mark Snyder Newt Gingrich has been doing for years as you're you're correct Newt Gingrich but have you I haven't seen Newt Gingrich active on this for a while all right here's where I'm going with this here's where I'm going hey Michael Shellenberger yes Michael Shellenberger has been active but I don't know that he gets the same media attention Rick Perry is apparently on the job here Rick Perry

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is apparently on the job here Rick Perry seems to be killing it on this topic so I think that's pretty special
so my point was was that for something like this to happen there needs to be a certain amount of persuasion in the you know in the public for it to happen the sort of thing probably doesn't happen just because some politicians got an idea on their own all right does this this doesn't really sound like an idea the Senators and and the representatives were sitting around and one of them said hey I got an idea let's do this they couldn't really get it done unless there were some persuasion coming from the public so I think that all of us who have been talking about this get to claim some amount of Alex Epstein as well yes all of us who have said anything about this in public get to take a little bit of credit for whatever

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take a little bit of credit for whatever our small pieces of persuasion were on this because Congress doesn't really Act unless they think the public is going to bite into it and one of the things that is interesting about this topic is you know there are always people on both sides of everything but the people who are against the new cleaner nuclear development are only against it until you explain to them that their their thinking is sort of stuck in the 60s once you've explained to people that it's not the 60s and that the old technology for nuclear which which did have some substantial risk safer probably than a lot of things but still addressed that was real that that's not the same thing we're talking about anymore it said it's a different technology once they understand that it's not Fukushima and there's not Three Mile Island and it's not Chernobyl those are all older technologies once people understand that then it's pretty easy to get them on board with a new clean only

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get them on board with a new clean only way to go really all right it's enough about that at Trump's rally I guess people were chanting aoc sucks and then airs he did a clever tweet about it and once again named the Democrat that everybody's talking about a OSI austalia who had a better week Joe Biden with the article inbox that he's a little too touchy with the woman or a OSI who had Trump supporters chanting aoc Sox no contest if you could be one of those two Democrats you would choose AOC this week not only that but if you were any of the any of the people who were who the who the Trump supporters were not chanting about you wish your AOC to because if people are chanting about you you're

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people are chanting about you you're doing something right meaning that your team probably is is embracing you because the other team has identified you as being too powerful and they have to work against you so every time every time the Trump supporters and a OSI sucks they make her stronger Mike Serna points this out often I pointed out often and then you watch it right in front of your eyes you can observe that both Mike and I predicted exactly what's happening we over a year ago we both said watch this alright now how right was Mike and how right was I on this we said don't take this lightly she's got real skills and it may not be obvious but these are real skills this is now luck this is not this is not luck if there's one thing you should have as a mantra this is the recording you should play in

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this is the recording you should play in your head every time you see a clip of a OC she'll be saying something that you'll say that's ridiculous you'll say she can't afford to pay for that health care plan you'll say that's that's not you know that's not a good idea but the whole time you're paying attention to her there should be a recording the place in your head which says I'm not thinking about those other Democrats right now wait a minute is this intentional it's not luck it's not luck don't let you think don't let yourself believe it's luck because that's how you get fooled all right I told you that when the Muller report was public that there would be a shockingly little change in people's opinions because people don't make opinions based on facts and I told you this clearly as a prediction it will not change substantially it will not change

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substantially it will not change people's opinions on Trump now the the dead the dead Enders who were still in that cave in Guam who who are unwilling to accept that bill bars summary of it is probably an accurate summary the people who don't accept that yet are still saying yeah but wait for the report itself my god there's going to be good stuff and they're sure it might not be enough to convict but we know it's enough to condemn him forever for his whatever and you know the weirdest thing the weirdest thing is that there might not be any new information in it if any of you consider the possibility that the Mulder report literally won't have anything we don't know in it because when he says there is evidence well how did how did how did bar summarize it I think this is my

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summarize it I think this is my paraphrase but the idea was the evidence does not come to the level that you would proceed with any kind of a legal problem right which doesn't mean there's no evidence so the anti-trump errs have said AHA yes maybe it's true maybe it's true that this is not enough for a conviction but he's clearly signaling that there's something like evidence in there and would we see the detail but we're going to see that evidence and we're going to judge for ourselves how bad that is yeah yeah yeah maybe it's not technically up to the standard of guilty beyond a reasonable doubt but this is politics and that's not the standard in politics so we're gonna get this red meat and rolling our I can't wait for the details but what if what if the details of the stuff you've been watching in the news for the last two years what if the details are that Don

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years what if the details are that Don junior went to a meeting once in his own building what is what if it's like that what if the evidence is that there were some people who talked to Russians what if the evidence is that a number of Trump supporters did not accurately report at first contacts with Russians which we already know what if all of the evidence is the stuff we already know maybe there'll be a couple of like interesting tidbit but nothing of substance you know just maybe some color on things maybe things are a little bit different than we thought they were but what if there's not really anything new but there is some stuff that looks like well this is something we should look into kind of stuff which would be completely ordinary for any complicated situation alright so I think that so let me let me read to

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I think that so let me let me read to you some text from CNN talking about the polling so after after bill bars summary of the Miller report this is what CNN said about their own polling while nearly every voter CNN talked to said they want the full molar report to be released among the most striking conclusion was how little the probe changed their opinion of Trump a fact borne out by recent CNN poll that found only 13% of voters 13% said Muller's findings would sway their 20/20 vote now you say to yourself well 13 percents a lot right that's a lot except that of those of the 13 percent 7 percent said they are now more apt to back the president while 6 percent said they are now less likely to do so so all I did was there's a few

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do so so all I did was there's a few little people on the fence about half of them fell one way and half of them fell the other way now I suspect that this poll is misleading like most polls are and let me give you my potential spin on this just in terms of this is possible I'm not saying this is the case I'm going to say this is possible isn't it possible when you say the six percent are less likely to support the president and 7 percent are more likely isn't it likely that the six percent who say they are less likely we're already never going to vote for Trump who look who who what reasonable person could here bill bars a summary of the Moller report and say based on the summary that exonerates the president that based on his exoneration they're less likely to vote for him does that sound like a real number do you think there's one person

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number do you think there's one person in this country who was Pro Trump and likely to vote for him but once he was exonerated from the worst charge any presidents ever had against him now they're less likely to vote for him because he is not a criminal does that even make sense so here's what I think I think the six percent who said they're less likely to vote for him we're never gonna vote for him anyway they're just angry people who got angry or because that's what they do and guess what if you check them again next week angrier still you could do this poll every week forever and you'd find six percent are more angry this week than they were last week they are less likely to vote for him this week Oh No sure he solved global climate change yes he did but I'm a little less likely to support him now so they're always gonna be the people who'd never would have sworn him but here's the interesting part 7% of the people in the poll said they

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7% of the people in the poll said they are now more apt to back the president were they also the people who were going to back him anyway maybe and it could be those the the groups in both ways are just identical could be that they were always just going to vote the way they were gonna vote and they're just saying they're more or less apt but really not really right it's just the way they decided to answer the question what I have a feeling that there are some independents who said to themselves not many maybe 1% that's it who said to themselves I am actually going to wait for the results I'm actually gonna make a decision based on what we find out here because it does matter to me maybe 1% and I guess the point of that and then they said Papa Papa a combined

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and then they said Papa Papa a combined 86% say say that they had already figured out whether they would vote for or against Trump and that the investigation won't matter even though they are undecided now what none of that even makes sense it's like the public just went suddenly crazy or the poll was crazy or the interpretation of it is crazy well none of it none of it quite makes sense which shows you where we're at all right I'm enjoying watching the Joe Biden situation now as you know opinions are not independently arrived at in this country if they ever were I don't know if they ever were but certainly at the moment our political opinions are assigned to us by our preferred news stations now that would not be the case if people sampled news from both sides of the political spectrum because they probably get a taste of a different both

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probably get a taste of a different both sides and then they say huh these are very different I guess I'm on my own I'll just make a decision but people don't do that for the most part the people on the left especially are locked into a silo where they don't even hear the real news the real news is not even available to them they don't have an option of hearing anything like real news because they're in there in their silo the people on the right also have a strong preference for their news sources and if they only stuck to their news sources on the right they would never hear the other side but because the mainstream media is the pervasive one that's everywhere the people on the right even their new sources talk about the news on the left if you go to Fox News you'll often see them reporting what the people on the left said so that they can give their counterpoint and show the other side but the left doesn't

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show the other side but the left doesn't do that the left makes fun of the right for
for the crazier stuff but they don't showcase the other arguments or at least I don't notice it as much it seems that the left wants to keep you ignorant of what the other team is saying whereas the right says here's what the other team is saying here's what we say this is why we think we're smarter and the other team is crazy now both sides are biased as hell not I'm not going to tell you that one side is unbiased you're not going to ever hear that for me I will tell you it seems to me that the people on the right are getting both sides more often not not as completely as it needs to be I'm not even close but far more often and the the Joe Biden situation is a perfect example of this because apparently MSN MSNBC and CNN are not reporting the national story that Joe Biden is a hair sniffer although let me take that back let me check the CNN

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take that back let me check the CNN homepage because I think I might have to retract that because I was reading on Fox News that they're not reporting it but then I also thought I saw so I'm looking at the homepage of CNN I'm looking for the Biden let's just search for it oh there it is a former Nevada politician alleges Joe Biden kissed the back of her head so here's a case where the front page is CNN not on the top left which is the the headline news but it's a little bit semi buried in the middle of the page I couldn't see it right away I had to look I had to actually do a search of the page alright so CNN is reporting it while at the same time over at Fox News it looks like they may have changed their reporting because it wasn't long ago that they were saying artists in the entertainment section of Fox News the

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entertainment section of Fox News the headline is CNN MSNBC ignore explosive misconduct allegations against Biden now that might be true of their television coverage so that I don't have an opinion but it is not true of their webpage so here's a case of of Fox News having a false or at least misleading headline because it says very clearly CNN MSNBC ignore explosive misconduct but you can click over to CNN and there's a there's the report it's right there so if I'm being fair cNN has fake news on this topic it might be that they're not talking about it on air which which would be a valid point and that's probably closer to true than not true right so here's my take my take on with us the mainstream media will determine who is the Democratic nominee the public

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who is the Democratic nominee the public will believe that they decided but nothing like that will happen whoever the news decides to back is gonna make it through to the final though it might be and it looked like initially that Kamala Harris was clearly the establishment choice but because she's fourth I believe now in the polling and and the and the media doesn't want to be on the losing team in order to nor do anybody who is an anti-trump they don't want to be in the losing team they're sort of in a dilemma because it looks based on polling that the people who are most likely to have a good chance against Trump are not their first choice it looks like Kamala is you know it's just gonna have truck trouble breaking into the top three who weirdly are all white men now and two of them are elderly white men and so the

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are elderly white men and so the Democrats have a problem of the size of which you rarely see in politics because the only people who have a chance of winning are the same people who have no chance of getting getting nominated at this point because either Bernie or Biden get torn apart and betta betta would be torn apart by Trump and part of the problem is I just don't think the Democrats are gonna get the people of color and the women to support aggressively and the other white men that might be nominated you know that at the moment having a let's say a 30% majority in the field of 16 that might be his cap remember what people said about Trump early on in the process he had the most votes but people said I his name recognition and he could never be above 20 perfect 25% popularity and

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above 20 perfect 25% popularity and probably he isn't so they might have been right about that but you know he obviously far more popular among the Republicans I should correct that when he was at 25 percent popularity that was just among Republicans and he's climbed from 25% popularity just among the Republicans to something like 90 percent you know an amazing an amazing amount of persuasion to get from 25 to 90 amazing I mean that's hard hard to top but you know you can never convince the other side so Biden in my opinion is the weakest candidate the Democrats have to offer I'll say it again if they match up one-on-one against Trump the weakest candidate on the left is the one who's leading in the polls by far now keep in mind that when people compare their

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mind that when people compare their their image of this great guy Biden to this horrible monster Trump they say that themselves how could he possibly lose Biden great guy Trump monster how does a great guy not win against a monster I can't even process this but the part that they miss is that it hasn't started yet the fun hasn't even started the the videos and the
the the attacks against Biden for his over touching of women is a complete kill shot it's a complete kill shot there isn't a chance in the world that Joe Biden could get elected president under the current conditions now if it turned out that some new thing came out about Trump that was worse than anything we've heard before well maybe maybe in that

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heard before well maybe maybe in that situation but you'd have you'd end up praying for some new information after Trump is the most vetted and researched person on the face of the earth you still have to hope there's some new stuff there that we don't know about or else Biden doesn't have a chance now do the Democrats know what I just said do you think that the people who are the the movers and the Shakers the people who know politics the people who are the the main Democrats do you think that they know that the guy who's dominated in the polls Biden do you think they know he has no freaking chance whatsoever I'm done he has no chance I don't know I don't know because even the Stacey Abrams rumor turned out to be a horrible choice it just looked like an old man saying I'm an old white man have I apologized enough I don't think I've apologized enough for being an old white guy what

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enough for being an old white guy what can I do I know how about all I'll pick a vice presidential running mate which is not normally done but I'll pick an african-american woman yeah yeah that'll solve my problems and everybody looking at it will just say yeah that's how you solve problems forty years ago and now it just looks like tokenism because it would really look like that and that's I'm no insult to Stacey Abrams I literally don't know anything about our politics so I don't have any positive or negative things to say about her whatsoever but the way the public would look at it was I don't know looks like you're trying too hard
whereas if Kamala Harris were running if she were the nominee nobody is gonna say to come lares hey camel oh you're trying too hard to be a person of color because she doesn't have to try she just is nobody would say yeah you're trying too

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nobody would say yeah you're trying too hard to be a woman cuz she just is one so those are just going to be a given and then she can do her political stuff so she's by far the strongest candidate on the the intersectionality stuff and she's got good enough experience and she's a senator that's better than being a mayor yeah she's got a lot going for her plus she's got the Hillary machine or some part of it as as moved to her but here's the problem she is seriously boarding she is boring she's tried to make herself interesting with her look I really have a personality I'm not cold qumola I laugh at things I try on funny-looking outfits in public I have a good laugh oh I'm so funny but none of that comes off as looking mm-hmm what's the best word for it all the videos of

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the best word for it all the videos of Kamala laughing and having a good time she doesn't come off as genuine I don't maybe that's is that just me it could be that's just a a biased observation I wouldn't rule that out maybe it registers differently to different people but she just doesn't look genuine authentic yeah I will give I will give a bet oh oh Rourke the following compliment that whatever he is it looks like that's who he really is in my opinion I mean obviously there's you know everybody's being a politician so everything's an exaggerated an exaggerated look at who they are and I'm not saying that Beto has good policies or they the job because it I don't see evidence of that but it looks like he's presenting something that looks like who he actually is so at least that's good

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he actually is so at least that's good alright does anybody have any questions because that's all the news for today but I love you so much I don't like to quit early oh let's talk about Amy Klobuchar in her one trillion dollars for infrastructure I'd like to give you my monologue now Amy Klobuchar groundbreaking plan for one trillion dollars in infrastructure planning okay I'm done and that's all you need to know about infrastructure right there
somebody says I don't agree he feels insincere well the political

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he feels insincere well the political stuff is insincere meaning that the policies you shouldn't take the policy statements or the criticisms of Trump's policies as being literal that's just the political thing so that part nobody is sincere about that's that's part of the game of politics and we accept that because they're all playing the same game as long as we know that I don't give anybody a bad bad grade for the policy part but the way betos personality is the way he uses his hands and he stands on things and you know his mannerism that all seems pretty authentic to me I think now that doesn't mean it is it just means it registers that way there's no wire hangers
alright Peter Budaj eg honestly I have avoided talking about him because two

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avoided talking about him because two reasons one I can't pronounce his name - he hasn't made enough of a dent to take him seriously and he's another white guy is he gay I can't remember is he is he publicly gay or do I have him confused with somebody else can somebody confirm that and I don't know if that's anything he's - I'm just looking for your answers here so I haven't really paid attention to and I probably won't pay attention to any mayor's the odds of a mayor getting elected president feels like if you're a voter don't you say to yourself well I like you you're a mayor but maybe try to get a job as a representative or a senator first you know maybe do a little national stuff first I'll take a

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national stuff first I'll take a governor every now and then I'll take a governor at least they ran a state but a mayor a mayor a mayor probably hasn't it you know a city manager who's doing all the hard work anyway depending on the city um and Oprah interviewed Ben oh yeah
yes he is good on TV yes he is gay well I like him better just for being gay honestly if I'm being honest it just feels like a bluff I don't think it will necessarily help him wha always married to a man alright so I'm very much in the camp who says wouldn't it be great to have a gay president right now it's a small camp I'm not saying I'm not saying that any of you

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saying I'm not saying that any of you are in this game and I'm not saying that you need to be in this camp or anything I for the same reason that I supported Obama I know you don't want to hear this there are some things that the country just needs to get past and then once you've done it you don't have to get past it again because you did it once and having our first black president even if you don't like the job he did was insanely good for the country in a way that's just permanent you can because you can never again say well the country would never elect a black guy because we did twice a lot of people love the job he did so it's good for society to move past these these little stumbling things and that put us at each other's necks likewise and I've said this many times the Hillary Clinton by winning the popular vote coming so close and really she didn't she didn't lose because she's a woman I mean I think she claims that

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woman I mean I think she claims that once in a while but it's on her list of 45 reasons she lost and I think Hillary Clinton broke the glass ceiling in the sense that nobody thinks nobody thinks that being a woman is a disadvantage running for president it's just not a thing anymore and and Thank You Hillary Clinton because she did that for the same reason eventually we gotta get ourselves a LGBTQ president sooner or later and I'm not saying that's a plus I'm not saying it's like some kind of advantage I'm just saying that let's let's get past it you know it would be nice now it doesn't have to be this this time I'm just saying that in general wouldn't it be great to have somebody who's a member of that community who is just so good at being a politician that people can't see that anymore all right somebody who's so good they make that invisible to us as voters that's a great

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invisible to us as voters that's a great would be a great thing for the country but I don't think it's his time it is not his time but I like the fact that use such a serious candidate alright somebody says no we don't have to get past this well we don't have to do anything but it would be good to take it off the table as you know a social barrier somebody says race relations got horribly worse because of Barack Obama well is that true or is it true that the media who was anti Barack Obama weaponized is the people who follow that media to believe that he was far worse than he really was I leave that to you as an open question yes as long as

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as an open question yes as long as gayness isn't his or her agenda somebody says yeah I mean nobody I don't think anybody wants to see it as a some kind of primary plank at this point because you know that unless there are some rights that are not yet granted that need to be speak six languages he's a combat vet I mean he's he's a solid candidate some day sunday gay man will be President I just don't know if it's it's gonna be soon all right some days they'll be a you know a lesbian woman some day there'll be everything all right that's all I have for now and I will talk to you later