Episode 473 Scott Adams: All the “Ridiculous Bullsh*t” in the News Today

Date: 2019-03-29 | Duration: 55:17

Topics

Adam Schiff has spent 2 years destabilizing America Ironically, Schiff is a more likely Russian asset than POTUSCouldn’t ANY DC politician be hoax-connected to Russia? Mueller DID make a decision about obstruction Betsy DeVos Special Olympics budget cut, POTUS will override it President Trump is now a savior of the Special Olympics “Ridiculous bullshit” was a high impact persuasion phrase Van Jones hired to help with prison reform movement Few things benefit the economy more than employment Few things benefit employment like education, trade or college Payoff for investing in education, exceeds the cost Marie Harf was pushing the “fine people” hoax yesterday on FOX Why didn’t Martha MacCallum call her on that BS? Is it true that drug prices haven’t gone up in last year? Huge if true Cancer specialist on WhenHub Interface app, available Specializes in finding, suggesting trial programs for patients North Korea talks “sticking point” Issue: How to get rid of their nuclear programs without doing that Solution: Redirect to safer Gen IV nuclear power development Practical solution Chairman Kim saves face and also complies North Korea could HELP America by developing Gen IV Jussie Smollett nominated by NAACP for an image award

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hey everybody come on in here NPC otter that's kind of a funny name Ryan good to see you gather around there's still a chair left couple of the couple of seats up front everybody come on in make sure you have your beverage okay I see somebody has their chalice ready and it's time for a little thing we call the simultaneous zip and if you're prepared you already have a glass mug possibly a thermos as tanker Stein a chalice you filled it with your favorite liquid and you're ready now to join me for the simultaneous
sip ah so let's look at the news um here's a uh mental experiment for you I'm not suggesting this happen I'm just saying if it did happen imagine this

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saying if it did happen imagine this imagine if somebody wanted to create a hoax in which they were making the case that Adam Schiff is an agent of Russia how hard would it be now I'm not saying that shiff is an agent of Russia I'm not making that claim I'm saying how what would that look like so the first thing you'd ask is has he ever had any conversations with any Russians who are associated with Putin and you already know the answer to that all of the senior politicians in Washington have had multiple contacts with high- ranking Russians check contact with high ranking Russians associated with Putin check next if you looked could you find some suspicious advertisements or

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some suspicious advertisements or anything connected with Russia in regards to Adam schiff's last election well bet nobody's looked has anybody looked if you did look would you find that any troll s from Russia had made any ads and how many ads would it take cuz remember the entire Russian troll Farm operation here's something that they don't say when they report the news they say Russia interfered with the election true Russia had a troll farm that sent out a bunch of ads that were negative for um Hillary Clinton true and then they sto there you know what else is also true the ads were so poorly made that they look like a high school effort anybody who understands anything about

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anybody who understands anything about influence would tell you they're completely inert the other thing they don't tell you is there weren't that many of them really compared to all of the other messages going on about the election and the uh the last thing they don't tell you is that there were also ads uh against Trump so how exactly do you explain the fact that the Russian troll Farm made memes that were
anti-trump well then you say well okay Russia was trying to not get Trump elected he was trying to just sew Discord to which I say those are different those are different things sewing Discord actually you know makes some sense I suppose and that would that would explain why there are ads on both sides Clinton ads and and Trump ads but

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sides Clinton ads and and Trump ads but does does what I just described which I believe passes all the factchecking um have you ever seen any expert say I've looked at the Russia ads and these would work you've never seen that because there's no expert who would ever say that nobody ever says the Russians tried to interfere but when we looked at the nature of their interference just talking about the troll Farm here it was so
so amateurish and for whatever reason it was attacking both sides that I'm not sure we can conclude anything from it that would be close to the truth so anyway if you were if you were trying to frame Adam Schiff or any major um politician in the United States couldn't you find lots of contacts they had with Russians and then you would look for other information such as you would try to find out if

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out if uh if they had ever tried to influence anything for you or or you'd ever tried to do anything for them so could you find anything that Adam Schiff ever did that you could Define as positive for Russia do you think you could look at Adam shi's record and find anything that looks like it's sort of soft on Russia or good for Russia well how about the most obvious thing the most obvious thing if it's true as our intelligence agencies have said that the thing that um that Russia likes more than anything is to sew Discord who is Swing more Discord in the United States than Adam schf is there anybody who's sewing more Discord than Adam Chef no Adam Chef has been involved in a plot to dismantle the United States for the last two

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the last two years compare that to anything Trump is accused of right let's let's compare these two things Adam Schiff spent two years destabilizing the United States a nuclear power and got really close to succeeding that's what Adam Schiff did for
for Russia here's what the Trump campaign did Don Jr went to a
meeting I'll say it again in case the in case there's any you know Nuance left Adam schf has spent two years almost successfully dismantling the stability of the United States a nuclear power that's what Adam shiff did and nobody de nobody's questioning that statement that's exactly what he did the Trump campaign there was a time they went to a meeting and nothing happened those are not equivalent they're not even close so if the

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they're not even close so if the evidence of collusion is a combination of how many Russian contacts you've had Plus what you've done that Russia would like done there's no it's not even close all bet Adam Schiff has way more Russian contacts through his whole career probably way more contacts than Trump or Trump's campaign it so wouldn't it be true he'd have way more Russian contacts I mean I don't know if it's true but don't we think it's true because I would think it would be true of any professional politician at that level they probably all met a lot of Russians and all the Russians seem to be connected to to Putin and certainly it's true that what he's done is way better for Putin than anything that the Trump campaign did not even close I they're not even in the same ballpark anyway I say this not because I think Adam Schiff is uh guilty of anything with Russia I say it so you can better

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with Russia I say it so you can better understand how it could look exactly like anybody was guilty of colluding with Russia you could kind of randomly pick anybody and make the same case if you look hard
enough now um and of course people arguing against this would say well that's different because Don Jr just to pick one example he intended we know that he intended to get information at that meeting with the Russian lawyer to which I say it's still the United States States and it's still legal to walk into a different room in your own building which he did that's where the meeting was was in Trump Tower you it's still legal to walk into a room in your own building you know the company's building in this case and listen to something that somebody says that's never illegal that is never illegal speaking of which I'm going to brag about a

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of which I'm going to brag about a prediction now I may have said this only once so I'm going to need some um some witnesses who saw me or heard me say it was there a point when talking about obstruction of justice and the charges against the president do you remember me saying that there's no way that he could get convicted and here was my reasoning my reasoning was that professional lawyers people who really went to law school and know what they're doing and have done this for years looked at the case and looked at the evidence and said I don't know some say that looks like obstruction but other qualified lawyers look at exactly the same information nobody's questioning the facts and said that's not doesn't look like it to me now what did I tell you is always going to be true if high level lawyers can't even decide if it's illegal or

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illegal or not it's one thing to to differ about the facts but the weird thing about this case is that both sides were looking at the same facts and were satisfied that they had the facts nobody was guessing or or speculating about information that was yet to come we felt we all had the same information so in the situation where professional qualified experienced lawyers some say it looks like a problem and some say it doesn't look like a problem which way will that always go if you have lawyers as good as the President of the United States it will always go to not guilty it can't go any other way because you don't live in a country where half of the legal profession can look at a case and say you know I can't even really tell I mean I'm looking at the law I'm looking at the facts and man I'm a professional and I just can't even tell if that's even a crime

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tell if that's even a crime there's no way anybody in that kind of situation goes to jail no way our legal system has its flaws it has its flaws but that's never going to happen I don't think you'll see that now when I say it's never going to happen certainly it could happen to a poor person who doesn't have good representation but if you have you know if your lawyer is the Supreme Court I'm exaggerating a little bit right not not technically but given that the the president has made appointments to the Supreme Court and that their conservative leading I will say in a Hy hyperbolic way the president's lawyer is the Supreme Court and they probably like him more than they dislike him now he also has some of the best lawyers in the world or at least access to the best legal Minds in the world so the odds of that actually being a um a legal risk to the

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actually being a um a legal risk to the president it's always scary of course but there was no real chance that he could get in trouble for that in the end now with that context what do you think about Mueller's decision to punt the obstruction call to
Bar think about it with the understanding that the best lawyers in the world can't even tell if it's against the law did you want meller to make the
decision think about it you didn't want meller to make that decision in the end because all right people are saying that it was it was cowardly and chicken I'm not entirely sure because what we know here's what we know about Muller okay very experienced certainly understands the law and very smart and as far as we can tell as far as we can tell

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can tell honorable as far as we can tell a patriot right I don't have any counter information to that everybody says the same thing if all of those things are true and you you you assume capability and good intentions so I assume both of those things about Muller High capability especially with his staff Etc and good intentions meaning he wanted to have the fairest result by kicking over to Bar he sent a very clear message and the clear message is that the law itself is not clear that's the message so the message that Mueller sent to bar and indirectly to the rest of the country is that a professional lawyer and the in fact some of the top lawyers in the entire country can't even tell if this is against the law
law that was actually a cleaner message than if he had just said we didn't find

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if he had just said we didn't find evidence that the law had been broken I actually prefer the way Muller did it because Bar's decision is no-brainer bar is the boss when you've got a situation where it's so ambiguous your very best thing to do is to kick it up to the boss and if that boss could kick it up again that boss should right if bar had a boss whose job it was to make legal decisions above bar what should bar have done should have kicked it up right but there was nobody for bar to kick it up to he was the top legal person and then the next one was the president and that doesn't count so Mueller's decision to take an ambiguous situation that even lawyers can't tell if it's against the law and Ki it up to his boss a
100% exactly what I would have wished him to do you know had I looked at the

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him to do you know had I looked at the situation and understood it that way enough on that um so you saw the president um override Betsy DeVos on the Special
Olympics um so the story is Betsy DeVos was going to cut I don't know 18% of the budget for Special Olympics which was just the government part her argument was that the Private Industry would take care of the rest of it um I didn't realize how many people were involved in Special Olympics there are 272,000 kids involved in Special Olympics I had no idea if you would asked me I would have said 5,000 that would have been my guess 5,000 um oh it's was it 18 million it was or was it 18% I'm looking at your comments anyway but the point is it doesn't matter at this point the

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doesn't matter at this point the president in a uh when he was caught going to the helicopter and the Press was asking questions he said that he's decided to override his people and to reinstate the funding now here's the great thing about that I was laughing when when I saw it now I didn't expect it but he made exactly the right play so first of all um Betsy DeVos has also uh issued a statement saying that she too wished Special Olympics could always be funded and it always felt that way but she was just trying to do her job basically with the budget so it's a little awkward for her but she's she's handling it
it and here's what I love about it from the president's point of view the story started out this way the story started out as Trump is a Monster who doesn't like kids who would be in the Special

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like kids who would be in the Special Olympics so that was the headline he walked into in the morning but sensing an opportunity that his own staff was really the ones who were making those decisions he publicly overrode the decision and said no I I disagreed so I completely changed that so it completely changes the story to Trump is a champion of Special [Laughter] Olympics he took a headline which was Trump hates the Special Olympics to Trump is the savior of the Special Olympics now not exactly and of course the Democrats will just say ah you just screwed up should have been one decision the whole time but in terms of what the public saw on camera because we're we're far more influenced by you know a an anecdote to then a concept the concept was something in the Trump Administration was going to cut the Special Olympics but it didn't happen

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Special Olympics but it didn't happen it's sort of a weak concept the stronger part is the visual of trump overriding his own staff to fund the Special Olympics like that's the part you're going to remember so politically he took a total losing hand and just said well let's see what happens if I do this oh that worked so that was cool and it's not a big enough story that it lasts forever so he he got a win out of a loss if you saw his speech uh last night what was the best Applause line there there was there were two words he used that if you have children in the room cover their ears cover their ears put in your headphones naughty word is coming so Trump in front of this rally crowd um I would say that Trump looked more relaxed and in the pocket you know in terms of his job he was in the pocket

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terms of his job he was in the pocket and it was really fun to watch I only watched the first part then I had other stuff to do but he he refers to the uh he refers to the whole Russia collusion stuff as quote ridiculous now
now this President can swear in public better than any president has ever sworn in public I'm sure he's pretty good at it in private too but in public have you ever seen anybody swear in public better than this President see now the beauty of
of it the beauty of it is that that line is it sort of taunts it taunts the anti-trump press to report it what do what do the citizens of the United States think about Thea occasional use of the word in a context where it's totally the right

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context where it's totally the right word all right he's not just throwing in swear words because swear words are fun he he's not this this is the part you have to catch he does occasionally throw in a naughty word so this it's not like he's never done it but if you think about it he really he really uh he's careful about when to use it he uses it to draw attention to stuff and he uses it just enough that it seems like something new so it draws your attention to it whereas if he did it a lot it would be too much so his perfect use of an inappropriate term and and putting the word ridiculous in front of it is what really sold it by the way if all he had said is the Russian collusion investigation was
was that would have been weak it just would have been a swear word but he says in his perfect delivery

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word but he says in his perfect delivery ridiculous it was the most convincing public cursing I've ever seen like it was it was authentic it was I I know I'm making a big deal about something that seems like a small deal but it but it really was so well done that I had to call it out all
right sorry allergies this morning um so uh you saw the news that there's a prison reform effort uh put together by Meek Mills and Jay-Z and I guess it got funded to $50 million including Robert Craft he was one of the funders so he probably needs to fund a few things to stay on the side of the Angels that's at the moment but uh van Jones has been uh hired to head it up so it's going to be a professional organization dedicated to prison reform I don't know exactly what they're going to do but I like I like everything about

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to do but I like I like everything about it and I like that van Jones is is the leader that I think that could produce some good stuff so that's just a that's just a congratulations note um here's a question for you how long has it been since president Trump created a new
outrage think about it now I'm not talking about an executive order for the or the emergency order because that's just politics I'm not talking about talking about cancelling um Obamacare because that's over reported you know he's going to he wants to keep existing conditions Etc so I'm not talking about just the politics how long has it been since Trump just said something that people went my God you can't say that prior to midterms right prior to

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that prior to midterms right prior to midterms that's what I think too yeah the goal on is just
politics I don't know that the McCain comments qualify anymore when he when he was originally talking about McCain uh it seemed like he was banging you know he was he was saying terrible things about a war hero and then later later it seemed like maybe McCain's hands were a little bit dirty because not only did he have a you know down vote on Obamacare getting rid of it but he uh you know he had some involvement with getting that dossier to the Press now that involvement seems to be indirect or maybe not at all because now we know that Lindsey Graham actually advised McCain to give the dossier to the uh to the FBI um and it was somebody that was on McCain's staff who took it to the Press so we don't know that McCain necessarily was behind anything

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McCain necessarily was behind anything going to the Press but he gave the president an opening to um criticize them and it doesn't seem to me that the McCain criticisms really caught the Public's attention that was my impression wouldn't you say it because it seemed like just more of the same and you know and McCain had it come in a little bit um so anyway my point is that the president said after the midterms that maybe he would try to tone it down a little bit and I would say that maybe he has or maybe we just got used to him or maybe it's something in between but but he's gone a long time without creating a brand new story of outrage am I wrong about that fact check me on that but it just seems like that hasn't happened lately all right let's talk about
um let's talk about um how to how to fix

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about um how to how to fix everything let's say you wanted to fix healthc care you wanted to fix prison um the prison system prison reform let's say you wanted to fix education and let's say you wanted to fix um the the budget let's say you wanted to fix all those things at the same time is there any and let's say you wanted to do uh reparations slave reparations slavery reparations um and let's say you want to do that in a way that did not make anybody mad it sounds impossible right how the world could you do slave reparations slavery reparations in this country without angering a huge amount of people can't be done right well challenge accepted let me suggest something that would solve a whole host of problems by solving one thing I just want to put that out there

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thing I just want to put that out there suppose the president said we need at least one highquality free education program so we don't have to change all colleges we just need to create one guaranteed free path to college for everyone for everyone so so here's my plan if the only thing you fixed was the cost of a good college education or let's say training as well so it's not just College it's any kind of Career Training if you were to make that all free could you do a lot less with healthare yes CU if you're training people better you have gone a long way toward getting people jobs and then they can afford healthare or they work for a company that pays for their Healthcare so if you were to fix the college SLC Career Training thing and make that free for everyone you would make a huge impact

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everyone you would make a huge impact eventually on healthc care costs cuz people would be working and when you're working you can at least have a chance of affording them um let's take slavery reparations if you came up with any kind of a plan that transferred money from people who had nothing to do with slavery to people who may or may not have even been descended from slaves nobody's going to approve well won't say nobody but it won't it won't get public approval enough of it so you can't have anything that's like a direct transfer of wealth from one ethnic group or many ethnic groups to another that will never fly in this country and shouldn't but suppose you said as part of slavery reparations we're going to make it college free for everyone for everyone it will have no no impact on rich people because they were going to go to college anyway but for everybody of every

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everybody of every ethnicity it would be free
that I think you could consider a form of reparations and I'm going to use uh Hawk nome's Insight that I think he borrowed from somebody but I liked it somebody says I'm turning off now you haven't even heard the argument why would you turn it off before you hear the argument I like the people who are so close-minded I'm not going to wait till the end where I hear all the argument I I'll just I'll just just hear the first part and I'm done don't you trust me that by the end of this it's going to sound better than it sounds now don't you think I can sell this a little better than I have yet you don't think there's more coming come on first day on Periscope um so here's the thing if you fixed education in this country you would take you would it would go a long way toward fixing race

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would go a long way toward fixing race Rel ations it would go a long way to fixing health care because more people would be working it would go it would eliminate um future college debt because you wouldn't need it if you didn't want it it would uh reduce our debt national debt because even though the college would cost a lot the amount it would add to the economy eventually would probably be far greater there are a few things that are more valuable than um putting somebody to work let me say it this way if you could if you had a choice between giving all of you who already have jobs a 10% raise or a few of you who don't have jobs go from unemployed to employed which is better it's way it's way better for the total economy to take somebody from unemployed where they cost money to employed where they're creating value

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employed where they're creating value that that's the big gap going from unemployed to employed is an enormous economic leap getting a raise is really good but that's a smaller smaller impact right so you could take care of prison reform because people would have education and more options so if you fixed Healthcare I'm sorry if you fixed only education made it free widely available and covered trade um trade stuff as well as regular College you would settle you would solve almost all of the other big problems in the
the country until the robots take over and then none of us have jobs and then it's then we're all dead somebody said college is BS except for stem I think that Insight is not only correct but could be a key part to making college free so the first thing you should do to make college free is

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you should do to make college free is acknowledge what the commenter said which is the current form of college is not only expensive but it's way poorly poorly designed if you look at the classes that people have to take to get some kind of a degree there's always some garbage in there all right you know you you could design uh an accredited school maybe it's a government accredit accreditation for a a free path now that path might include a lot of online training uh so could look like anything all right
um apparently uh last night on Martha mallum show a guest Marie harf was on and said once again repeated the fine people hoax and I haven't seen the clip so if anybody can tweet me the clip I'd like to see it but apparently uh Martha melum did
did not um oh

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not um oh somebody you're still on the um the education thing so I didn't do a good job of summarizing the point the point looks like this there are some things you can spend money on and you've just lost your money but there are other things you spend money on and you get it back so it's not an investment per se but it's a good use of money because you put a little money here but you gain a lot of money there education is is more like that than almost anything else if you if if the government just said all right we're just going to have a bigger deficit or raise your taxes or whatever you're going to do but everybody's going to get free college maybe it's online maybe maybe you can't all go to Harvard but there's some kind of free college and training if you did that the idea is that the benefit to the overall economy would so be so enormous maybe in you know 10 years but it would be so enormous that the uh national debt would go down overall because people would be working Health Care would cost less because people would have jobs they'd

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because people would have jobs they'd have income so the idea is that $1 spent on um fixing education would create $10 for the economy so that's the key point if it's not true that investing $1 in
in education gives you back $10 in the economy then I'm not in favor of it so that's that's the only thing you have to ask yourself is it true that putting a dollar into education so that everybody that especially the lower income people can get a real education or real job training whatever that looks like is it true that a dollar spent on that creates $10 in economic benefit or something that's a multiple of $1 so just check that one point because if the one point is true then all the rest of the argument holds together and if it's not true none of it holds together so just fact check me on that one thing that's it all right uh so I was saying Marth

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it all right uh so I was saying Marth melum had uh Marie harf a guest on and she repeated the fine people hoax if anybody has that clip send it to me because once again somebody says wrong if it is wrong then I I would certainly reassess my opinion um so we've got to keep staying on that fine people hoax where I I tweeted out yesterday today some of you saw it that if you do a uh Google search on quote find people and Charlottesville that's your search term Google will kick up the debunking of the hoax in the third spot so it's right on it's near the top so I think the first two links um talk about it like it really happened but then the third link fairly easy to notice calls it a hoax so at least it's in the top page so I'd like to get it to the top spot so I'm going to keep hammering on it but at least it's at the top page um so thank and thanks to Steve

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page um so thank and thanks to Steve Cortez by the way because his article in real clear politics is the link that made it to the third spot so without Steve Cortez his article that that would not have happened so good work from Steve on that that really helps the country a lot in my opinion the president made a claim last night in the speech that this is the first year that pharmaceutical prices have not gone up is that true cons I I did not see any fact checking on it so I I went to CNN page to find out because you know it would be a big headline president lied about pharmaceutical costs and I didn't see it maybe it's there or maybe it's coming but can somebody do a fact check on that is it true that drug prices did not go up in the past year is that true because it doesn't feel

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it doesn't feel true but he said it in very clear language and I did not see a fact checked fat checked so somebody check on that because that's that's enormous that is enormous if it's true and if it's not true i' I'd like to know if there's anything that's truish in that cat category that he was talking about all right uh let's talk about oh speaking of uh education um so last night my uh I've told you that I'm taking drum lessons online part of the reason I wanted to take drum drum lessons online is to experience online training in a in a real situation where I really wanted to learn something and that was the only method I was using other than practice so um my drum teacher is now on my company's app the interface by whenhub

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company's app the interface by whenhub app and I wanted to point anybody to him who wants to also take a drum lesson because I can I can vouch that um it's been very good for me and he's a good teacher his name is Michael and if you go to the interface by whenhub app where you can contact an expert and pay them for their time in real time by a video call um I'll just put in drum drum drum drumming search for drums and then there are a whole bunch of drum teachers I'll just tell you which one was
was mine let's see if he's still on there he may have he may have signed off oh there he is Michael ansburg or so if you wanted to use my drum teacher just uh use the keyword drums and look for Michael an it's burger and um he said at $95 an hour

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burger and um he said at $95 an hour you'll see other drummers are cheaper I would suggest that uh he might be worth it compared to the the lower cost drumming
people so um and you can also schedule him so he's got his schedule on there so can you can schedule them um and I would hope that if you support the app the interface by one Hub app um it will go a long way toward making making it easier to find information about a whole host of things so this past week we had an expert on the interface by whenhub app who was advising people on cancer clinical trials now think about this let's say you have cancer and you're you're going to your cancer doctor and maybe you've got a cancer specialist and you say are there any clinical trials I can get into for my my type of cancer that doesn't respond to

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type of cancer that doesn't respond to regular treatments would your regular doctor know about available cancer clinical trials that you could get into and the answer is no because not every doctor is following that field of all the the clinical trials so our expert um was taking calls uh last few days he's still on there you can just search for cancer and [Music] um and uh he advises people how to find clinical trials now imagine trying to Google that yourself it's basically ungoogleable at least in a comprehensive way um yeah most people would not be able to to know how to find the right so and the other the other problem is that the trials are really specific to types of cancer so matching the your cancer with a specific trial is no easy thing

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with a specific trial is no easy thing but it can be done if an expert knows the field so that's the sort of benefit that the interface by whenhub app should bring and I hope I hope uh you will support it I will also tell you just out of total fairness that the value of the when token that's integrated with the app so we've created our own uh crypto not crypto but let's say a blockchain token that you can use to pay people within the app or cash so you can just use regular cash if you want but the value of the tokens um could be going up it's not an investment and you should not listen to cartoonists telling you where to put your money you should never do that but there's a lot of activity and we're going to be doing a major um series of marketing for the for the app and in theory if the app is successful the value of the tokens would go way up and so this would be the time

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go way up and so this would be the time if you thought it was going to be successful this would be the time to um own those tokens um no guarantees not an investment don't take Financial advice from cartoonists but it is nonetheless true that this would be the part of the life cycle that if it were going to go up you would have wished you had gotten in there all right um North Korea seems to be stumbling in terms of our conversation with them I would suggest and I don't know if this is happened yet but and maybe I've said this before that the St block seems to be how do they keep their nuclear program while also getting rid of their nuclear program so there's there's one sticking point that people can't quite figure out how to get past and I've got a
a suggestion and the suggestion would be that the United States or South Korea um

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that the United States or South Korea um propose that they transition the nuclear expertise that they have for weapons into domestic um maybe a test bed for Generation 4 nuclear power now Generation 4 is the stuff that doesn't melt down it's easier so you don't have the risk that you have with traditional old nuclear and if they have a bunch of nuclear experts and this part you'd have to fact check but I'm assuming that if you had expertise in in nuclear weaponry a lot of that should cross over to domestic nuclear purposes now one of the benefit of North Korea is that it's already a terrible dangerous place and the Kim family can make any regulations they want about anything so in theory you should be able to get a nuclear power plant a generation 4 plant uh up and running in North Korea faster than you could do it anywhere else simply because Kim can say

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anywhere else simply because Kim can say what do you need well we need a bunch of land in in a certain kind of place you know needs it needs some power and that needs you know whatever it needs and Kim could just say okay you got it uh and so North Korea could become um a world power in becoming experts in designing and exporting safe small uh nuclear power and so here's here's why this idea is appealing Generation 4 nuclear power is appealing by itself North Korea is a unique place where they could U they could speed through the regulations to build them it's hard to do in the United States because of all the regulations next it gives a it gives an offramp for Kim in which he comes on ahead with his nuclear program now you might say to yourself yes Scott but a nuclear weapons program is for a completely different

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program is for a completely different purpose than domestic nuclear power those are not the same thing and maybe it's not directly you know directly transferable just a little bit of overlap with the expertise so it's not really like the nuclear weapons can just sort of evolve into peaceful nuclear power but it doesn't need to it's the story so what I'm talking about is not not so much the Practical um variables on the ground but rather the story if I say to the public we have this we built this nuclear capability for weapons we no longer need these weapons because now we're working well with China and the United States and South Korea this would be Kim story we don't need those weapons but we don't want to give up our national pride our Our National Asset so we're going to transition this to become the greatest domestic you know safe nuclear power company in the world that

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nuclear power company in the world that story is a story of winning the story of we built nuclear weapons and now we have to throw them away cuz somebody big told us to is a total loser story you can't give Kim an offramp to doom and when then wonder why he doesn't play ball don't give anybody an offramp to doom and expect good results you got to build an offramp to something that works now the president has quite cleverly and the first smart person who even got into this conversation in my opinion has made a big deal about talking about the economic potential of North Korea and that's so he's already set the table that where we'd like to see North Korea Go is is richer and more successful and I think that's true to add that extra element of could you become our testing ground where even we benefit from what you do with nuclear

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we benefit from what you do with nuclear weapons you know chairman Kim can you help us
do you feel that feel the difference between chairman Kim get rid of your nuclear assets the gem of your entire nation the greatest accomplishment of North Korea why don't you throw them all away because we're big and we'll punish you if you don't that's that's the message we have going now right compare that to Chairman Kim we've got this huge problem it's called climate change or at least the experts say so and even if you don't like the climate change problem just you know we we need a lot of energy to power the world in order to power the world we need energy we can't seem to figure it out the whole rest of the world can't seem to figure out how to build some Generation 4 reactors I'm exaggerating because they are being built in China Etc but we need you we need North Korea

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Etc but we need you we need North Korea to get us to to Generation 4 in the most effective way so can you help us with your gigantic nuclear assets and the fact that you have you know the ability to cut through red tape in North Korea can you help us get to this better place where the whole world will benefit by the Great accomplishments you've made in North Korea how's that how's that story sound right there's no competition that story is an offramp that the experts are going to say and they would well you can't just transition from nuclear weapons to Generation 4 nuclear they're practically you know they're 98% different things it's just 2% maybe some of the experts are easy to transition doesn't matter it's about the story and the story takes advantage of the fact that the public doesn't know anything about nuclear anything and to

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anything about nuclear anything and to the public if you said hey public they're going to transition their nuclear assets to Safe nuclear what would the public say sounds great sounds great because the public can't tell the difference between nuclear weapons and Generation 4 nuclear plants that's why we don't have them if the public could tell the difference between a safe Generation 4 new nuclear design and a nuclear bomb you know if if we knew the difference we would already have Generation 4 nuclear plants all over the place all right
um let's uh open it up to questions that's all I had today open it up to questions uh what's the most interesting thing I said
today oh Chicago yeah the smallest

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yeah the smallest story is um I don't know it's a little played out but apparently Jesse Smet has been nominated for a a so-called image award so he's been nominated for an award for the good image that he's creating uh I hope he wins because that would be hilarious somebody said why is AOC persuasive but Betto is not Betto is persuasive Betto is persuasive by definition uh meaning that you have seen him succeed and you have watched him persuade people so I haven't watched his technique so much um except I've talked about uh his arm movements probably do help him and the standing on the tables and the standing on the cars probably helps him but it also helps that he's a um sort of an engage aging you know white guy and women like him and and all

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white guy and women like him and and all that so he is he is persuasive but he's not AOC persuasive he's he's whatever's the the rung just below her I would say um you're going to get attacked for your reparations now that's interesting so somebody says I'm going to get attacked for my reparations now what I could I just called reparations were free college for everybody everybody not not black people free college for everyone how's that going to get me in trouble it should get me in trouble for free college the fact that I said it's essentially oh I forgot I I didn't I didn't finish a point so I see why there's an air gap there I wanted to borrow I think I got interrupted I wanted to borrow Hulk nome's um he had a he had a good way of framing something and I think he borrowed it from some somebody but the idea was that when you help

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when you help African-Americans you end up helping everybody because if if in his view if the African-American situation is the most dire if you help that then you've helped anybody who's in a similar situation because everything's connected and I'm doing a bad job of explaining that but the idea is that uh you know if you just help the poorest people who have the Le options and get them trained and get them employed that everyone wins so you could call it reparations but who would who would object to reparations that helped 90% of non-black people you know 90% of the benefit would go to non-african-americans who who would object to that now you can object to it because it it costs some money but then it's just a budget question and it gets to is it a $1 expense that makes $10 in economics so you have to answer that

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so you have to answer that question [Music]
um I'll get rid of whoever told me I'm doing a bad job in all using all capital letters somebody says it is not reparations then okay so let me do a better job because I see I'm I'm not making my I'm not connecting my thoughts well enough so your criticisms uh I think are valid because I'm I'm not doing a good job of connecting the thoughts the thought is this that we wouldn't embark on the on the free college thing except that one of its benefits is the same kind of benefits of reparations so it's a it's a replacement for reparations so it would be not it would not be fair to say that free college is reparations it would be fairer to say we have several problems from economics to health care to you

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from economics to health care to you know racial relations we're going to solve all of them the same way um and so if you say we're not this this isn't reparations it makes reparations unnecessary and it's informed by reparations another words it's listening to what people are saying about reparations it's coming up with a plan that affects all ethnicities equally because it's only the poor people that's all
all ethnicities and and it's it directly addresses the problem because it creates a a success path for everyone all right that's my story I'm sticking to it and I will talk to you later