Episode 472 Scott Adams: Biden, Hoaxes, Suing Facebook for Discrimination and CNN Ratings

Date: 2019-03-28 | Duration: 51:26

Topics

Tucker Carlson “unleashed” is must-watch for last couple weeks Ratings crash at both CNN and MSNBC, a different explanation Trump Admin suing Facebook for housing discrimination Joe Biden’s apology tour condemns “white man’s culture” AOC selling herself as “authentic” via wild arm and hand gestures Her persuasion skillset shines brightly, breaks the mold “Fine people” HOAX, repeated on CNN, Corey Booker town hall No pushback or correction from CNN on his false claims Smollett insists he’s innocent, might sue after all charges dropped Throws Police and his Nigerian friends under the bus Sketchy details coming out about Kim Foxx

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bum bum bum bum bum bum hey everybody Alexander good to see you grab a seat make sure you've got a steaming beverage I like coffee and the rest of you Kevin Gavin Stan come on in and where are the women this morning Stevie Mike dan Rick come on I know there's some women on this periscope well I'm sure you'll be here momentarily but while you're waiting let us enjoy the unparalleled pleasure of the simultaneous sip grab your cup you mug you were tankard you're Stein you're jealous your thermos raise it to your lips filled with your favorite liquid I like coffee and join me for the simultaneous it somebody somebody just mentioned my interview

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somebody just mentioned my interview with Greg Gutfeld on Fox Nation it's a subscription site so you have to be of subscriber but it's available now the podcast is so if you have that subscription or you'd like to get one you can watch that
so yesterday if you were on my periscope I talked about the fact that the CNN web page had done a full pivot away from the Russia collision hoax and the entire top left which is the important part of the page the top left was all health care stories it was health care health care health care health care and I don't know how many of you saw dr. Carlson last night and let me say a couple things about this if you're not watching Tucker Carlson for the last week or so you're missing the best show on television because it's always a strong show but

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because it's always a strong show but now he's I think maybe because he's been attacked so viciously and in ways that look actually dangerous especially with people showing up in his house it seems like he's off the leash meaning he's is going full-speed at the at the opponents and CNN and in particular and it's really glorious to watch it's by far his strongest I think all of his strongest show is its cover the last two weeks and they're spectacular but he did a major segment last night talking about how CNN and MSNBC decide what to cover in the news and he took he took my observation to the next level which as he showed Nancy Pelosi saying maybe the maybe the news should start talking about health

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news should start talking about health care and that him that he showed that must-see MSNBC and CNN went complete health care and as he posed he just said that's what they should cover and then all the coverage was just that topic and I thought wow it's the sort of thing you know is true you know that the mainstream media and the Democrats are you know pretty tight we knew from the the leaked emails etc but to actually see it in real time in a way that you could have almost predicted is kind of mind-boggling and I don't know about you but
but oh and let me just put an exclamation on this point so I was very curious after Tucker's brutal treatment of CNN what their home page would look like today so I thought I wonder if it's still gonna be all about health care so I go to the top left and it's airline stuff airline

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top left and it's airline stuff airline stuff airline stuff airline stuff airline stuff they've completely replaced that the health care pivot after Tucker mocked them mercilessly for it last night completely replaced it with airline safety now here's the funny part Tucker also mentioned and some other outlets are covering it today apparently the ratings for CNN and MSNBC just fell off a cliff as soon as the Russia collusion thing was revealed as the hoax that it was there there are traffic yeah Tucker said that at least one night their traffic was down by fifty percent I've seen other numbers but it's somewhere in the 20 to 50 percent range they dropped and it was in those the media and here's the thing

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those the media and here's the thing that Tucker didn't say which is even funnier so the ratings of for Rachel Maddow Show and MSNBC and CNN dropped a lot but what they don't say is that of the remaining viewers the people who were actually watching CNN and MSNBC a pretty large proportion of them were or conservatives who just went to laughs so probably for the last few days and I know because I tweeted this and I asked other people are you watching those two networks just for the comedy and you know hundreds if not thousands of people responding yes laughingly I had those two networks just I was going CNN MSNBC CNN MSNBC before this last week do you know how much I watched MSNBC zero I never turned it on but I

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MSNBC zero I never turned it on but I watched a lot of it in the past week you know probably watch a little bit more of it so as bad as the ratings were they're actually far worse because even the bad ratings who were bolstered by the temporary gloating of conservatives that were probably at least 10 percent of their total traffic and and it's not it's not permanent trash it's temporary traffic where people literally just want to have a good laugh
so now the the interpretation that I've seen in the news I believe is completely wrong for why their ratings dropped let me ask you let me ask you this you can be the pundits for the moment hey pundits tell me why you think the ratings for CNN and MSNBC dropped when the molar report came out tell me there's a little delay in the comments

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there's a little delay in the comments so I have to I have to you know wait for a moment but tell me why you're the expert people like don't like being played you say I don't think that's it because they're liars no because people don't want to watch bad news depends depends what you call bad news no credibility no because it's fake news because they lost their credibility no no it I don't believe that the drop in traffic was because their credibility was shaken in my opinion their credibility with their audience is probably unchanged it's probably closer to completely intact than it is to completely changed here's why I think people watched people didn't want to watch the news it was about the

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want to watch the news it was about the audience it wasn't about CNN people didn't want to watch the news because they didn't like what it was gonna say it wasn't it wasn't that it was good news or bad news it was that it wouldn't make them feel good and I mean that literally as in feelings you know they would actually physically feel ill because they have they had invested their their their mental was a coherence to this story that was completely false yeah and when their worldview shattered as commenter says when their worldview shattered it would actually be painful to watch confirmation of how badly they had been duped so if you say to yourself it's because they no longer trust CNN or MSNBC I would say that's probably not true I you know I think everybody

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true I you know I think everybody understands that sometimes the news is wrong you know there's nobody who didn't know that fact the fact that they were wrong on such a huge thing and the fact that they're their own viewers got bamboozled probably is not as important as you think it ought to be I don't think that's the reason that they abandon the network and indeed if the network comes up with a new story of of how Trump will be removed from office tomorrow that entire audience is going to come back and they're going to believe the new story the number of people who will say well you lied to us for two years so therefore I will put less trust in this new story not many people will do that you think they should and by the way I'm not saying that there's nothing I'm saying here that is something that's unique to Democrats or liberals or the

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unique to Democrats or liberals or the left it's nothing about that it's about people the same thing would happen if the situation had been reversed and the situation been reversed the people who would be find themselves being let's say validated by the news and feeling smart and right would all tune in you no matter what and the people who did not feel validated by the news and the news would make them feel stupid may take a pass on watching the news so it's just human nature but I do believe it is a complete miss read to imagine that those news networks lost the credibility I don't think they did I think credibility is almost a it's almost an hour k ik concept you know credibility yeah I'm not even sure credibility is a thing anymore because people simply believe the story is that they want to believe and they disbelieve the stories that

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and they disbelieve the stories that they're in you know they're disinclined to believe there's no such thing as well I might disagree with you but at least you're credible so maybe I should I should take it seriously we're way past that reality now as many people have said and I like to point this out the business model of the press got much more sophisticated in last 10 or 15 years because they can measure with complete certainty how each story how each headline gets clicks and so they ended up you know evolving from something like news to something like a drug let me say that again the news business evolved in the last 10 years or so from something like reporting information news to something more like a type of drug and by that I mean they serve up stories that make people click

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serve up stories that make people click and people click sometimes for intellectual reasons curiosity knowledge but mostly they click because of how it feels when I read the news I click on the stuff that I think is going to give me the feeling I want I don't always click on the stories that I know I need to know all right and I'm even aware of it and I still follow the I follow the drug right I followed the dopamine I follow the serotonin I follow the oxytocin yeah and I suppose I'm kind of a drug to some of you as well for the same reason so you should see the news industry as a drug delivery mechanism it didn't used to be that it used to be actually information and now it's a drug delivery system as is all entertainment it's not News all right funniest story let's see

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News all right funniest story let's see if you can tell you what's the funniest story of the day oh I'll tell you here's the funniest story of the day the Trump administration if you haven't heard this you're gonna love us the Trump administration announced it's going to sue Facebook for here's the good part wait for it wait for it the Trump administration announced it's suing Facebook for housing discrimination [Laughter] couldn't that be any better now the argument is that people who were landlords people who had property to to rent could use the Facebook's tools to to determine what genders and apparently ethnicities would even see their ads so if you were a racist landlord you can exclude the you know exclude the ethnicities of people you didn't want to

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ethnicities of people you didn't want to even see read which is pretty darn racist now I have to admit I personally don't feel like that's any form of evil on Facebook's the side I think Facebook just had a general tool that had general use for advertisers and and some people misuse that tool to be you know for racist purposes so I don't think Facebook is is you know the bad actor here but but it's still true that they created a tool that allowed racists to discriminate and so I guess they'll have to answer for that now what's funny about it of course is that one of the one of the things dogging Trump has been the 1970s I think it was there was a lawsuit against one of his properties

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lawsuit against one of his properties for racial discrimination in housing so they were they were discriminate who could live in this Trump building I don't remember if it was rentals or or purchasing but as far as I know and you can fact check me on this there's no evidence in that old seventies case that Trump himself knew about the discrimination because the discrimination was happening by some employees who were incentive to do whatever is good for the building because that's how presumably that's how they got paid so the employees apparently discriminated for probably more economic reasons than because they had a personal feeling about anybody in other words it was still bigotry and discrimination no question about that but there's no evidence that they did it on orders from Donald Trump that's not

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on orders from Donald Trump that's not you know I believe they were saying yeah you know I think it was like the case was settled which doesn't actually tell you the great garloo my god that was a toy I had as a child sorry I just had a somebody made a comment about the great garloo and I just had this memory of a childhood toy with that name so anyway so it's unclear what the pret what the president's involvement was if any or if he even knew about it in terms of the discrimination that case they got settled in the 70s for the Trump Organization so all we know for sure is that the is that the employees discriminated so that much we know so this is sort of this wonderful living in a simulation moment where the Trump

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a simulation moment where the Trump administration gets to sue Facebook for housing discrimination and it just couldn't be more artistically perfect I just love it all right so I'm watching Joe Biden who is at the at the top of the Democrats polling to be the nominee for president and I don't know about you but watching Biden gaffe his way through this process is bordering on Trin's larious so it's cringe worthy and funny it's sort of cringe larious it's my new word it's funny because it makes you cringe so

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funny because it makes you cringe so apparently uh Biden is on an apology tour in which he said the that the white man's culture has to end and then he told some fate news about whips or something and when I see that I think to myself how is that a winning message how is that a winning message he's found the only way to give zero votes uh-huh if you think about it so if if the Democrats who are in terms of their preferred branding from their party the party of inclusivity the party of diversity if the party of diversity nominates the oldest whitest guy who is running how many of those people are going to be enthusiastic about voting for the oldest whitest guy while they

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for the oldest whitest guy while they are self-identified as sort of the party of inclusivity and diversity and the answer is I don't know that's a tough sell and then Biden tries to win that group by insulting essentially insulting white people so who's left if he's insulted every person of color by simply being the nominee and then as the nominee he directly insults all the people left he's really found a way to get zero votes which is ingenious really so yeah watch it so that here's the funny thing and I don't I don't know if people have quite internalized this the the easiest matchup for Trump is Biden by far the just it's not even close you could you could throw a dart adding one

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could you could throw a dart adding one of the other candidates and they might be polling lower but if you sort of project forward every one of the other candidates would be a stronger choice I I don't know them all but I think every one of them and there is this the Biden has limit let me let me just paint a picture for you Joe Biden you're you're the nominee for the Democrats we've got some questions for you can you tell us more about what's bad with white culture and the problem with men now doesn't matter how he answers that question it doesn't matter how he answers a question he's just it's just a bad look it looks weak and apologetic and it's not gonna make anybody happy and then they say Joe Biden can you explain your treatment of

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Biden can you explain your treatment of Anita Hill during the Clarence Thomas stuff in which you know it was the most anti woman thing that has ever happened in this country since you know women got the right to vote I think yeah and even though I don't believe he's that person anymore you know I I do allow that anything that's more than twenty years old we should just say that was a different person people changed right so I wouldn't personally hold against them because people can be bad 20 years ago and still change and I would imagine he's not really the same person anymore I think he changed with society and but the fact is he would have to answer to all that now what is the biggest complaint that the anti-trump ours have about the president well one of them is that he's sexist ready and if that's one of the biggest complaints about this president watching

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complaints about this president watching non-stop clips of Biden putting his hands on young girls it's just not gonna be a good look it's just not gonna be any way so I think it's hilarious that the Democrats are setting themselves up for probably the weakest attempt at winning a presidency you might ever see in your lifetime you know maybe Mondale was weaker but this one's this was a slaughter I still don't think Biden will necessarily get elected and oh by the way there will be a point so at the moment I would say Democrats are at least a little bit unified they might have their preferred candidates but there's still Democrats there will be some point in this process there will be a point in the process in which they're going to get real specific about do we want an old white guy versus anything

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want an old white guy versus anything else person color or a woman a woman woman person of color that battle is going to be the final battle before the nomination and it's going to get ugly and it's going to divide the party so we'll see how that goes let's talk about AOC in the and the clip that you saw in which she is berating some other House member did you all see the clip and and the interesting thing about it is her hand gesture she's she's almost got better like hand gestures and she's and a feud and she's going big now that clip was run on both the anti-trump networks and the end fox news and probably a lot of other places so she managed to get in the get in the news from something that probably you didn't see coming I don't he i I honestly don't even

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I don't he i I honestly don't even remember what the issue was was it health care but she managed to get in the news on all the networks now here's the reason that I say there's that she has a skill set that in persuasion that is similar to President Trump yes yes I get it that she doesn't have the the business acumen I get that you don't need to remind me but the persuasion skill set is very similar and here's the thing one of the things I often note about the president is that he can notice free money that's on the table so if this president walks up and says somebody left some free money on the table anybody anybody okay I'll take the free money and so the president picks it up so for example when the president recognized the Golan Heights that was sort of free money

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Heights that was sort of free money there really isn't much of a pushback from that it's just a whole positive for the president for the United States for Israel it doesn't have much impact at all on whether there will be peace because you know the people who don't want to still don't want it the people wanted it's too long and and then I watched AOC get her get her time in the news and I thought to myself here here were a bunch of politicians in a room all of those politicians saw the free money sitting on the table only aoc picked it up the free money was that it was a televised event in meeting there were cameras there so probably wasn't live I don't know if it was live or not but that doesn't matter there were cameras there and what a was he knew that apparently no one else in the room figured out she was the only one who figured it out is that if she went big she would be on the news so

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she went big she would be on the news so she went big she she used a reaction there was outsized for the the situation it was an of context it was a little too big for the room she was in and so every news organization covered it because it was the shiny object it was the thing that made noise it was the squeaky wheel
what do you remember about anybody else in that room nothing I in fact I don't even think there was anybody else in the picture the word I don't even think there was anybody behind her she managed to take the free money that was on the table which is wait a minute are the rest of you going to be boring so you're gonna be boring and you're boring how about you you're all boring everything seriously everybody here is gonna be boring you're gonna leave the free money on the table I guess I'll take it well

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now here's the other thing when I talked about better the other day and I talked about his hand gestures and I said as as as awkward as they look it probably is really good technique because it's part of what makes you not be able to look away but there's something else about those hand gestures common to both Beddoe and to AOC and I don't know if I think that's more hand gestures that we've seen from her but I don't know I'd love to know the answer to that but here's the thing doesn't it make them look weirdly authentic you have to let that sink in a minute now first of all I'm not going to claim that any politician is authentic because everybody's putting on on the look that they want you to see but when somebody is if they're more likely to look like they're lying think about it when somebody's loose and

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think about it when somebody's loose and they're and they're you know their body is involved then the things are saying and their body are matched I'm really worked up and my my hands are moving I'm really worked up it looks more authentic and when Beto even talks about positive things yeah he talks about positive things with his hands you know that looks authentic too now I know all of you were saying okay you know they're on the other team so anything they say is a lie I'm not saying they are authentic I'm saying they sell authenticity better than other people likewise president Trump imagine if you will draw yourself a mental picture the news is on and there's a senator who's asked to be on camera just and now picture the senator in your mind it's a generic senator is that senator boring

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generic senator is that senator boring yes all senators act like they're trying to act like other senators have you noticed that everybody in the Senate acts like they're trying to act like a senator and it all looks inauthentic because you can tell they're all just acting like I'm a senator then now imagine President Trump nobody acts like president Trump literally there's nobody we've ever seen who is even close to what he is and because of that it it registers as authentic because if you were trying if you were trying to put one over on you in sort of that ordinary way that the Senators do they would all just act like well I'm a senator and I think we should do if you watched all these politicians say the same things they say these completely empty sayings like well I think the country should have a

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think the country should have a conversation about that we should have a conversation about that we've got to take this very seriously you know the country should have a real a real debate on that issue what is that what is that that's nothing that's absolutely nothing what is President Trump do well not that he comes out and he's completely unique so here's my point Trump aoc Beto they all break the mold they all break the mold and in so doing they register as authentic I'm not saying any of them are authentic but they they they sell authenticity better than other people do all right every everybody is always managing what they say for the the impact on the audience they just do it better somebody totally disagrees with me oh and then here's my

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disagrees with me oh and then here's my next question so the beto hand gestures got a lot of attention a lot of people talked about it I might be the only person who said it's almost certainly a positive so makes me wonder if anybody on her team is watching my periscopes because and so here's the question I don't know did her hand gestures get larger after people started talking about Beto cuz it's possible that she looked at it and picked up the technique if she picked up his technique because she understood that it was useful you should be afraid of her you should be very afraid and by that I mean she has more skill than you think Scott you're straining credulity so you have you have enough in the room I have to say this every now and then you have enough room

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every now and then you have enough room in your comments to say your reasons you can say your reasons so when you say I'm straining credibility instead of saying that which means nothing say I don't believe somebody is thinking this or I don't believe you got your fact right or something like that but it does nobody any good for you to just come out and say Scott you're straining your credulity you're totally wrong you can do better than that I believe in you
do you read all the long messages well they're only usually a sentence or two
doesn't work that way see there's another one what doesn't work that way somebody says it doesn't work that way Scott what doesn't how am I supposed to what is that comment for what kind of

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what is that comment for what kind of point are you making you blocked people for giving you a reason I don't believe I've ever done that don't believe I've ever blocked anybody for disagreeing or for presenting a reason you might think I have but I have not
but bump on just leave your comments and want to see if anybody had it complains all right is it there some new news today oh yeah so you've probably been following the saga of the fine people hoax and the fine people hoax widely reported is that the president called the neo-nazis in Charlottesville fine people that of course is fake news which you can verify

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course is fake news which you can verify just by looking at the transcript he said actually the opposite he said they must be condemned totally now how many times does that been repeated cory booker repeated again at his town hall to see an end correct him no of course well they don't really fact check too hard on the town halls but they did not correct well but I thought that Steve Cortes was on Smerconish Azure radio show talking about that that issue so Steve has been very active in trying to trying to correct that hoax now what's interesting about this is that I've also been on Prakash's show I've been on his CNN show but and I've also been on his radio show twice I think and I'll tell you one thing about Smerconish he actually seems interested in the facts so I don't know if he can

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in the facts so I don't know if he can keep his job at CNN but he actually seems to want to be interested in what the other side says he is interested in the other point of view he seems genuinely interested in the facts especially if they've been reported wrong so I'm gonna give him credit I haven't heard the actual interview I'd love to but in in the way he tweeted it he treated he treated it seriously that it could be a hoax so he treated that accusation without a sarcasm or anything so credit to him did they change it together in a Wikipedia I haven't gotten an update on Wikipedia but I believe they kept the the condemned totally quote in there so that I think that's still sticking yeah the the folks that I who I debunk have a

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the the folks that I who I debunk have a a common path that they go down so they first say he caught I heard it with my own ears he called the neo-nazis fine people and then I show them the transcript and they say what are you trying to pull I heard it with my own ears and then I showed them the actual video clip so they can hear with their own ears that they did not hear it with their own ears because it isn't there then what did they say once you have to bunk the primary claim that he called the neo-nazis fine people and it's very clear he didn't from the transcript what did they say then do they say my god I have been the victim of fake news I reassess everything I've heard under this new condition I simply understand the world differently no no they don't do that every one of them says well then who are these fine people Scott who was he referring to there were no fine people there and then I show them the New York Times article

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I show them the New York Times article where they interviewed one of the fine people who was against the racists but it showed up there for free free speech with purposes so once you've established that there were people there who disliked the racists and were there for their own reasons and they were there for free speech reasons what do they what does your subject say do they say oh my god now I see it I heard the quote wrong and indeed you have now proven the New York Times talked to a real person with a real name and their group were not racists and they were there too they were fine people does anybody ever say that no they don't they introduced a new hallucination every time every time you've seen it yourself and it goes like this well how could they be fine people if they're marching alongside racists to which I say okay

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alongside racists to which I say okay you're the one who said marching along with if they were marching with the racists I'm pretty sure all of us would agree they're racists I don't think that would be ambiguous if they were marching with the neo-nazis and then I say but you introduced some fake news there's no reporting that they were marching with the racists there is reporting that there were people in the same zip code for completely different reasons there's nothing wrong with being in the same zip code with bad people if you have different reasons that's pretty normal so what do people say once I've said they realized they heard it wrong he had never complimented the neo-nazis once they realized that it's confirmed there were people there who were not Nazis and didn't like didn't like races and that's there for good people once

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and that's there for good people once they've learned that and then and then you say it's ridiculous to say they're marching alongside the next thing I heard and I heard this from one person was Scott Scott Scott I'm paraphrasing if you showed up for an event and you were a fine person and you showed up to an event and you found out that the neo-nazis were there marching and you didn't turn around and leave are you really a fine person to which I say well first of all I am a fine person and if I showed up to an event in which I saw neo-nazis squaring off with auntie Fong I'm not leaving that are you kidding me do you think I would leave a situation that I stumbled upon that had neo-nazis marching up against anti-fog and and the violence was going to start and there were torches and they

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to start and there were torches and they were yelling and there were clubs and there were masks you might be a better person than I am but I don't think I could turn away I think I would be watching that show all right I wouldn't approve of it I would not approve of anybody there but I would sure watch I would watch and anybody who says that they wouldn't you know I don't I can't read their mind but I would just say that's not a credible statement that you wouldn't watch an event of that magnitude if you were there and then as somebody said the the last thing that somebody will say usually is just word salad or changing the topic or I'm too busy to talk so those are the three things I get I'm too busy to do this or he's a racist for other reasons or anybody who was there must be a racist all right so that hoax continues Mike

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all right so that hoax continues Mike savage asked in a tweet if there anything is anything that I don't know if he said conservatives or Trump supporters is there anything that they believe that that is a hoax as at the same scale as the Russia clusion hoax and so I gave several examples which many of you won't like but but but let me tell you another hoax so one of the hoaxes that a lot of you on here believe is that there was once a proposed law that would make it legal to kill a healthy baby after it was born no there there were laws proposed about late term abortion etc and certainly there are laws that talked about if the if the baby were born and was not viable and it was going to die anyway what do you do so those things are true but the hoax part is that in somebody's seven-day sayin there wasn't a Virginia right so there are

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wasn't a Virginia right so there are people who believed that there was a in New York I think in Virginia that there was an actual law to make it legal to kill a healthy baby after it was born so I saved people well that's a hoax and people say it's not a hoax it definitely happened and the evidence is north random or somebody else talking about it or the evidence is a New York Post article that doesn't show the law but it talks about it and so I say easy enough to test send me the text of the law you believe exists that would make it legal to kill a healthy baby after it was born and what do people do do they get on google google that law find the text to prove me wrong and then send it to me well no they don't be good somebody says what about the born about see so a lot

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what about the born about see so a lot of you actually believe that there was such a proposal that there was an actual law proposed to make it legal to kill a healthy baby after it's born some of the some of you still believe that's true and let me ask you this so there's so many of you who believe it's true shouldn't at least one of you be able to produce the text of that law or proposed law that you believe exists there are a lot of you here now but just one of you just one of you google it send me the the text that that makes your claim true and I will publicly apologize I will publicly apologize for being wrong and I will do it with all due humility you just have to send me the text now of course that text doesn't exist it doesn't exist and I've been asking

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doesn't exist and I've been asking people for weeks and and they go quiet or if they turn into word salad or they change the subject where they talk about later Mobile they talk about the Gosnell movie and here are the claims I'm not making I'm not claiming that nobody's ever murdered a baby after birth I'm not claiming that I'm not claiming that late term abortion isn't a thing and that people wanted that to be illegal and under certain circumstances I'm not making any claims about those things just a healthy baby after it's born let's just show me the text that makes it okay to kill that doesn't exist all right let's talk about the smollett case a little bit so Jesse Smollett so as I said yesterday there's obviously something sketchy about the outcome and I want to revise revise

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outcome and I want to revise revise something I said yesterday I came out in favor initially initially I came out in favor of a light light sentence or a light result for a small it and I gave my argument it's because he's unlikely to do it again it probably won't encourage other people to try it because he got caught and because he's famous it will haunt him forever unlike an unfamous person in the same situation but as I sleep on it and as he claims continues to claim his innocence I say to myself you know I was okay with the light sentence and I would have been okay with it still if you just shut up but the fact that he's throwing the Chicago police under the bus it is not acceptable it's not acceptable and under

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acceptable it's not acceptable and under that situation I'm fine with the federal authorities coming in and putting the hammer down on him had he admitted had he admitted it I'd still be okay with a relatively light sentence now in my opinion $10,000 as a fine is too light I think a hundred thousand or fifty thousand would be more in the ballpark of what would feel right and by the way if I were if I were Jesse well I guess he can't do this because he's saying is innocent but had he had he said he was guilty and had his you know his punishment been this light it might have been wise for him to just make a donation to you know make up the difference but that option is gone because he's claiming he was innocent so if you add in the fact that he's apparently throwing his Nigerian friends under the bus he's throwing the police

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under the bus he's throwing the police under the bus he's running one of the most important hoaxes we've ever seen and the fact that he continues to say it was true is a continued danger to Trump supporters so given his unwillingness to say it's true that factor I know now raised to a higher variable in my thinking and I think he needs jail so I think the the correct punishment under the condition that he continues to lie would be jail but if he had come clean I would have said a the the media hypnotized him he was brainwashed by CNN he thought maybe he thought he was making the world a better place in his own twisted way but so I would have gone easy on him but now I'd say I think jail jail is a more appropriate appropriate punishment all right is crowded under

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punishment all right is crowded under the bus so he said so the whole Kim Fox thing is Emily in the Obama Michelle Obama connection and the fact that is Chicago and the fact that even Rahm Emanuel I can't stand it I met here's a weird little thing many years ago I guess I can tell you this story I was in Washington DC for reasons undisclosed many years ago and I was with somebody in politics and Rahm Emanuel was working there and he was just walking down the hallway the other way and my host said I gotta introduce you to rahm emanuel and my host said after the introduction it

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my host said after the introduction it was just briefly I met him it he went on and my host said someday he's going to be President and I thought really I don't know no maybe someday you will be I don't know but it was certainly interesting to see him come and come out against fellow Democrats as appears so that would be an interesting position I don't know if can you come out of Chicago and still get elected feels like that Chicago thing would would be a little baggage all right I guess we've got enough for now and for now I will talk to you later