Episode 433 Scott Adams: Cohen, North Korea, and Coffee

Date: 2019-02-28 | Duration: 50:59

Topics

Press claimed North Korea deal would be to distract from Cohen The press, enemy of the people, made a deal impossible Press influence is malign…or malignant ANY deal would have been MSM-framed as a coverup failure Chairman Kim is going home with improving relations Time is on President Trump’s side Walking away early…but politely, respectfully Michael Cohen testimony, hours and hours of claims Reporters don’t understand finance Cohen was hired and worked 10 years for citizen Trump There wasn’t ANY evidence President Trump was racist… …till Charlottesville? Does that sound likely? President has been painted as hands-off, doesn’t read key reports, How can  lead us? NO clue what’s happening! Therefore, Dems claimed…we MUST impeach! NOW he’s being painted as 100% hands-on, knows everything He is aware of every single meeting, involved, aware of ALL! Therefore, Dems claim…we MUST impeach! President Trump kept his options open, during the campaign… …like any smart, experienced business person

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boom-boom boom-boom-boom pom pom pom pom pom pom pom pom pom pom hey there red bill and the rest of you come on in take a chair unless you're working out I know some of you are in the gym or or taking it rather than the beach right now and you two should pay attention because today is a very newsy day it's so newsy you might need extra coffee luckily you came to the right place because this is breakfast no this is coffee with Scott Adams I forgot who I was there for a moment or where I was or what I was doing that's how much news there is join me now lift your cup your mug your chalice your time and join me for the simultaneous enter so we've got a lot of news let's talk about it in a reverse

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news let's talk about it in a reverse order let's talk about North Korea first so unless you've been living under a rock for the last four or five hours you know that the president has decided to end early the talks with North Korea and leave with nothing new no new agreements is it a horrible failure a mark on his legacy ay-ay-ay confirmation that he was he was never the right person for the job is it that well let's talk about it let's talk about the context the situation here's what we know let me put this back a little bit yeah that's better so we are watching the cohen testimony and what was the news saying all day

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and what was the news saying all day yesterday about the the juxtaposition of North Korea and the Kohen testimony so the news was the news was reporting it as if Trump needed desperately to have something happened in North Korea to compensate for all the badness that was happening with Cowen now we'll talk about Cohen in a moment but under those conditions should it trumpet have made a deal nope nope now the the only deal that Trump could have made under that backdrop of the news saying you're just trying to do this to distract because that was the setup no deal was possible in fact making a pretty good deal would have been a failure because anything that we did that was we give you a little you give us a little any kind of

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little you give us a little any kind of thing that looked like a deal where both sides gave something would have been called a huge failure that never would have happened if Cohen hadn't been testifying the president desperately needed to make a deal that he didn't need to make and so the press the enemy of the people made it impossible to reach a deal that had any kind of give-and-take now I don't know if a deal was possible anyway so it might make no difference at all but it wasn't really a wise thing to do to make a deal under those conditions unless the deal was so one-sided that even critics couldn't complain but she knew that wasn't going to happen nobody said president's going to go over there Kim will give him everything Trump will give him nothing and that will be the deal nobody said that so without that

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deal nobody said that so without that possibility the president only in lose-lose scenario he could not make a deal or he could make any kind of a deal that had a little give and take on both sides which would be framed as a failure because everybody would say you gave a little my god you had your foot on their neck the sanctions were on why did you give them anything that's a terrible idea you lost and it's only because you were trying to compensate for Cohen so the u.s. press in this example very clearly the enemy of the people created a situation where the president couldn't do his job to protect the people that's that really happened and so we're not talking about fun and games anymore just you know we're not talking about hey the news got a factor over there a little bias now we're actually talking about them destroying the planet now as it

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them destroying the planet now as it come to that but you can see the potential that their their influence is so aligned is that the word I keep hearing on TV lately I I never think that's the right word but what I hear it I say that's a good word maybe I'll use that something their influence is so malign sounds like you should be malignant but I hear people and who sounds smart saying that word so maybe that's maybe that's the right use don't take my word for that all right now secondly president Trump this is more context President Trump wrote a book about walking away from deals that are not as good as what you want seeing a lot of people say it's the wrong word I thought it was the wrong word too but I keep saying seeing smart people saying maligne instead of malignant alright well we'll figure that out later anyway President Trump is literally

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anyway President Trump is literally famous for and it's his brand and he says it often I walk away from the deal that's you know not good enough so should we have been surprised that he walked away from a deal no do you know what would have been surprising making a deal no making a deal would be the surprising part because he has time on his side that's that's the predictive element whoever has time on their side in other words the stronger negotiating position tends to walk away because they know the other side needs it more than they do and right now so long as North Korea seems to be we think intent on not ramping up their testing times on our side trump has turned a potential enemy into a friend sort of and friends are not

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a friend sort of and friends are not dangerous friends with some nukes they're not testing just not especially dangerous and they need us far more than we need them because the president has done a tremendous job I think in painting this alternate universe where North Korea becomes a powerhouse economic you know entity so here's the story that I haven't seen yet in the news yeah have you seen this in the news Kim jong-un came all the way to Vietnam and went home with nothing think about that Kevin came all the way to Vietnam and went home to his starving country that is you know it's crumbling by the minute one assumes they're not going in a positive direction are they I mean I don't know but I would think that every day is worse than the day before so yeah he came all the way here on the

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so yeah he came all the way here on the train spend all this money in fact how much do you think it cost Kim just to come here or to come to Vietnam it was probably really expensive how much money did North Korea have sitting around for stuff like that probably not a lot it probably took a big bite out of Kim's budget just to show up in Vietnam with all the security and everything else so I don't think I haven't seen any reporting on this but even though Kim is a you know a dictator with full control of his country I have to think that when he returns empty-handed to a starving country his regime is less stable would you agree with that because what didn't happen and this is the other smart part of what Trump is doing here what didn't happen is that they left as enemies they didn't

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is that they left as enemies they didn't leave his enemies they left as better friends than before the meeting and Trump is doing this in a fairly genius way and that he's for the I just haven't seen this done before I'm no historian but I haven't seen it done is that he's treating the individual as a separate decision from from the politics and from the you know the the countries and he's made it very clear that he has an affectionate personal relationship with the leader so Kim Kim go back and say to him hew United States damn you evil Trump I'm gonna I'm gonna start testing those nukes right away well that wouldn't make sense that would be the worst thing he could do wouldn't it so somehow now somehow in in a smart way I guess president Trump has created a situation where time is on our side because we've already converted an enemy into some

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already converted an enemy into some somewhat of a friend and if they continued not testing which would be the smart thing for them to do is to continue not testing if they had done that yeah if they continued not testing we just wait we you know take a little take a little bite out of it every once in a while just keep nudging things in that direct and here's the other factor that puts time on Trump's side while there is big level of negotiations between the leaders fact-checked me on this but I believe this is true that North and South Korea are having continuous low-level engagements in other words they're they're doing smaller things to increase maybe travel and conversation and and just communication north and south let me ask you this how long can the Kim regime remain if communication

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the Kim regime remain if communication improves with South Korea not long not long right when the North Koreans get a legitimate taste of what's happening in South Korea the regime will fall so again time is on Trump's side as long as he's keeps Kim as a friend as long as he's holding out a legitimate and I think it's a believable because it's true a believable carrot meaning the economic development the end of hostilities keeps you know Kim stays in power presumably nobody's talking about him leaving power it puts Trump completely in the driver's seat here it's just that it's going to take a while and he doesn't need to hurry there's no reason for Trump to hurry he has no reason in fact hurrying would have been the worst thing that Trump could have done because any kind

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Trump could have done because any kind of deal would have been would have been reported as a failure because of Cohen that was the context you it was a setup so that anything that Trump did with a negotiated give-and-take would be painted as a failure because he was desperate to get the deal he was desperate so by walking away early but politely this is a polite walk away right but it's a walkaway it's polite it's respectful it maintains friends it puts time on our side between the information flow between South and North Korea that is essentially a ticking time bomb for Kim he can't allow communication and I don't think he can stop it at this point because as long as there are people in the North in the South were talking and they know each other stuffs gonna happen you know communication is gonna get through so should we be upset that no

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through so should we be upset that no deal was reached I'll tell you what if I hate that and it has Freitas I'll tell you what one of the things that Trump could easily have given because it's easy to take it back is signing some kind of an end to the war and even that doesn't sound like it was likely to have happened order or closed so it looks like that whole end of the war thing even we we didn't even want to give that I was speculating that that would be the easiest thing to do the easiest thing to do would be to sign a piece of paper that says that the the war's over it's that's the end of the official war because that wouldn't really change anything that would not require us to remove our troops it wouldn't require them to denuclearize but it would change the context and I thought you could at least give Kim that because you could always take you back and Trump didn't

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always take you back and Trump didn't even given that that's some pretty tough negotiating there all right let's talk about Cohen so in the morning I saw Jeffrey Toobin described Cohen's testimony as I think he used the word earthquake earthquake and by that afternoon I saw Jake Tapper use a different word and I tried to remember it maybe somebody here saw it but by the afternoon the Jeffrey tube in this description of it as earthquake had been downgraded to something closer to an inconvenience I forget where to what word Jake use but it wasn't an inconvenience but it was alarming or something like that or is there something like alarming now earthquake that's pretty big alarming that's sort of every day so I think that there was a sort of a a

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think that there was a sort of a a creeping realization that all of these things has sounded big when you actually burrow down onto any one of them they all sort of disappeared into the dust let me tell you my experience I listened to the bombshells all morning and then I drove to the gym as I was driving to the gym I was trying to remember in my mind I was trying to remember and I listened I listened closely to all of the testimony and there was like one claim after another there la man these are bad claims and as a driving way I tried to rank them in my head you know what are the worst most dangerous claims and what are the you know less dangerous ones and here's the thing I could remember any but they've all become background noise it seems like there were so many claims and the credibility of each claim was so low and the mental processing I had to

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low and the mental processing I had to do to sort of hold any one of those weak claims in my head was so great then my brain just said man well let me borrow a line from Family Guy and so so I'm I'm paraphrasing a joke from Family Guy where I'm watching Cohen talk for hours just hours of talking hours and hours Cohen is making these horrible accusations about the president and and at the end of all those accusations this was my reaction I don't know about any of that that's the Family Guy line I don't know about any of that meaning none of it none of it is sticky all right let me give you some examples you've got the the the earthquake bombshell that Cowan was part of a money-laundering scheme to you know to

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money-laundering scheme to you know to cheat on somehow do something illegal with campaign finance to write a check to the porn star anything my god that's bad
bad campaign finance violation that's bad some kind of you know a financial crime and then you listen to people who are smarter say um worst case scenario that's a fine Obama did it too oh and by the way it's not illegal it's it's literally not illegal to do any of that stuff so the whole context we're talking about you know this this payment to the porn star we some we sometimes think past the sale the sale is is it illegal to spend money on things that would help your campaign but at the same time they're the things you probably would have done anyway because they have a personal use and this clearly does have a personal use obviously he wanted to keep this quiet so the first one the biggest claim I thought was going to be

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biggest claim I thought was going to be that money laundering porn star payoff thing but if you drill down a little bit it's not even a crime but if you drill down further and even if you could imagine it was a crime it's a fine that's it that's a fine it's business as usual let's take another one of the bombshells it's a bombshell that Cohen allegedly heard a speaker phone conversation between Trump and Roger stone about Wikipedia and going to release some stuff it's a bombshell this is if the smoking gun now we know that the president was talking with stone about WikiLeaks and they're connected to Russia it's right Raja finally and they did drill down a little bit and you find out that WikiLeaks had been tweeting the release of these documents for a long time and that Roger stone is actually just full of and he doesn't know anything and here's the

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doesn't know anything and here's the best part I was watching Michael Tracy on Tucker Carlson last night and and Michael Tracy pointed out that the odds that Roger stroke Roger stone allowed himself to be on a speakerphone was about zero and the odds that president Trump would take a call with Roger stone on his speakerphone is basically zero now I suppose anything's possible but the story just sort of falls apart first of all there's one witness second of all yeah and he's the least Cohen is literally famous as being the most most undependable witness of all time I think he lied four times during his testimony before he goes to jail for lying I'm he was the most ridiculous ridiculously weak accusation so first of all it was public information because wiki piece was saying Wiki Wikipedia was

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wiki piece was saying Wiki Wikipedia was saying it second of all Stone is a famous fabulist as I say or exaggerator or maybe he lies on vacation Cohen is the other biggest liar so basically it's just this den of liars about something that wasn't even a problem because it was public information anyway so the wiki that Wikipedia thing sounds important then just disappears when you start you start pulling it apart here's another one the there's the story about how a Trump used his foundation as sort of a shell if it was it the foundation - yeah to bid on a painting for some charity and so that in the the scheme was that so he would he would bid there would be a bigger bid for his painting than anybody else's and it would come at the end but really it was just Trump's own money and he was using a using a you know somebody to just be a stand-in for himself basically so he could have the biggest bid for his

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so he could have the biggest bid for his own painting now if this were somebody else if this were not Trump maybe that would mean something to me but the fact that it's Trump it's kind of why he does for a living right he was a marketing person who was all about his brand and the image the the Trump property image and so he pulled a move that is frankly hilarious and I have to admit I am influenced by the fact that it's funny it's very funny that he would run a scheme to make sure that his painting was the people paid the most because as part of his larger his larger effort to maintain his brand as the the biggest and the best personally personally here's my reaction to it well that's funny it's funny and it's kind of smart because you know it should have worked

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because you know it should have worked you know if you were going to tell me that this would come back and bite him in the ass when he's president I would say well maybe then that's a bad idea but on the scope of crimes if you were to like make a list of the worst crimes in the world like you know genocide or something at the top and need to go down it's like a you know murdering one person you know stealing beating somebody up you know sex crimes and property crimes and then there's traffic crimes and they're speeding somewhere somewhere at about the the one millionth crime would be pretending that somebody else paid too much for your painting now I can imagine there's a technical crime there but it's about the smallest crime I've ever heard of and it's hilarious it's hilarious would you be disappointed if Donald

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would you be disappointed if Donald Trump did not find a way to pay the for somebody to pay the most for his painting I'd be a little disappointed if he didn't do that it's sort of what we expect him to do it's part of why I like him frankly but I'm different then there was a story about collusion do you remember collusion oh I remember a collusion we're so long ago back in the days when people imagined that Michael Cohen would know the inside stuff and if there were any collusion there Michael Cowan would know it because he was on the inside what did Michael Cohen say about the collusion didn't see any so the biggest story out of this is that the collusion thing continued to fall apart that should have been the main takeaway but because the nature of the press they

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because the nature of the press they have to they have to make these little stories sound like they're bigger the big story is that the guy who was the closest to the inner workings of the of the thing not only here's the best part even if you imagine that Michael Cohen may not have had all the information he tells the story of the president who was his longtime confidant I mean they shared more secrets than anybody right there probably was no one who shared dangerous secrets with the president more than Cohen and Cohen apparently says that the president told him on a number of times there was no collusion so the collusion thing fell apart my favorite one is that the president was accused of inflating his net worth and then decreasing his net worth for other purposes now let me put this to you how many people out there have a financial background and when you heard that that

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background and when you heard that that charged that the president sometimes inflates his values and sometimes and sometimes takes the low number if you have a financial background what was your first impression to that now this is only for the people who have a genuine financial experience normal normal if you don't have a financial background you would say my god that's you know the way they're reporting this sounds like a huge financial crimes let me give you an example now I'm not I'm not I'm not fully informed here so my example might be inaccurate but it'll give you an idea of what I'm talking about so take my example as as a general point so I might have some of the details of my actual example wrong but here's the general point so he had a golf course they he

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point so he had a golf course they he valued differently I think at one point he valued it at fifty million dollars and for other purposes I think for property tax he valued it like five million or something very low so one was like fifty million and one was like five million so it's reported as financial crime right because it can't be true that something's worth fifty million but also true that it's worth five million they can't both be true right would somebody with some financial education explained to the rest of the people here why those both can be true you know they both can be true right there's nothing wrong with that here's why if you paying property tax you're paying tax on the value of the the land and the buildings that might have been five million dollars or at least you could make a case for it being five million dollars if you're talking about the value of the business let's say the business is

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business let's say the business is profitable you would say well it's making so much money that it's worth I wouldn't sell this business for less than 50 million dollars now that may be inflated but not necessarily illegally inflated in other words you can use optimism to value things you can use the value of the brand somebody said so even if the cash flow is not that high somebody could say yeah I'd like a golf course that the Trump name on it and and you know we knew it was designed by a Trump people etc so so my example might be bad because I may not have the details of this particular thing but my point is that when you're talking to Forbes about your net worth inflating it is just sort of normal because you want to you want to make your brand look good so you want to look like you're high on the list but that's not illegal saying that your property is worth only what the building and the land could sell for is not illegal

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land could sell for is not illegal that's actually just the way it's done right saying that your business might be worth a lot more than other people think it's worth based on its cash flow is normal that's not a crime so I think what you're going to find is that I was looking at the article and CNN and they kept saying it's very confusing because we know this and this and they value this at this time and this is this time it's all very confusing it is all very confusing if you have no background in finance if you do have a background in business where the background in finance you would know that the most normal situation in the world is it the same thing or what you think is the same thing could be valued at wildly different numbers depending on the purpose is it for property tax is if we're selling your business is it for being on the Forbes list those are all different valuations and should be or at least could be all right so the the net

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least could be all right so the the net worth exaggerating thing sounds like it's a big deal right until you drill down and there's just nothing there now I could be wrong but on the surface it looks like simply a case where reporters don't understand finance so it looks like it's a bigger deal than it is then there was Michael Cohen said that the president was a racist now I didn't watch every minute and I think there was some point where he was was he ever accused of something specific because I think I missed that it's not in the news did Cohen point out to anything specific that only he knew there was evidence of that claim because I didn't see it so you could inform me on that but so Cohen claimed that the president's comments about Charlottesville were evidence that the president was a racist here's what's wrong with that correct me if I'm wrong

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wrong with that correct me if I'm wrong but Cohen is a Jewish name isn't it well I know that part's right so Michael Cohen a close confident of the confidant of the president who is Jewish for ten years hired by the president despite what other people say are his lack of qualifications worked with the president for ten years and never noticed that the president was anti-semitic until Charlottesville is that the weakest claim you've ever heard in your life if Cohen had not been Jewish then I would say to myself I guess maybe you just wouldn't notice or you know maybe that was the final straw or something but Cohen is Jewish the the Charlottesville marchers were anti-semitic are you telling me that Cohen worked for Trump for ten years and didn't notice didn't notice until then

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didn't notice didn't notice until then and that was based on on fake news for anybody who's new here the Charlottesville hoax is that CNN and other people report that Trump said that there were fine people on both sides that of course was not referring to an tyfa on one side because they weren't find people and he was not referring to the racists who are marching with tiki torches because not fighting people he was talking about the fact that the event was about statues and they were finding people on both sides of the general question about statues and yes there were other people there besides anti-shah and the racist with torches and the next thing you say if you hate Trump is well let me I've been waiting to do this one whoa right so why were they marching with the racist are you telling me that they're non racists who march with racists is that what you're saying Scott no Dale no

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that what you're saying Scott no Dale no one has ever said that I'm not saying they're marching with I'm just saying they were there all right so the Charlottesville thing once again plays on CNN CNN once again lets it go by as if it's fact which is why you can call CNN the enemy of the people all right then there was the I saw a OC ask some question about insurance and she asked her question and then I really see any of that in the news did you so I don't know what she was talking about with property values and insurance so I think that was just another case of you use different evaluations for things based on what your purpose is whether it's insurance whether it's Forbes list etc that seems like nothing but I'll tell you what was the most interesting thing about this if you watch the the Cohan testimony he said that the president

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testimony he said that the president speaks three languages did you catch that a lot of people were saying say that President Trump is not that smart but I didn't know that he spoke three languages so he speaks English you know so that that would be as the president's primary language but as Cohen explained with the the Charlottesville thing the president also speaks say a secret coded racist dog whistle it's the same time he's speaking English but on top of that Cohen told us they speaks in gangster code so he's got three languages going on he's got his normal English language he's got the racist dog whistle and then he's got sort of a gangster code and he can do them all at the same time I'd like to give you an example of that so if for example you were to hear the the president talk about North Korea if you

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president talk about North Korea if you only knew about the one language it would sound like well we've decided to you know end the North Korea talks and we didn't get to everything we wanted but we'll we'll keep talking with them so that's what it would sound like just the English language but now you have to you have to layer on the the whistle so so that's like this uh-huh well we we got got a good we didn't get a good result in North Korea say so now you've got some English but you've got the the whistle that's in there but then the the gangster code is more of a clicking sound so that it would sound sound like this so you can add the English on top of the racist whistle on top of the gangster a clicking sound and it would sound like this well we've decided and our conversations in North click like click Korea

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in North click like click Korea we're very hope click click look look look hopeful that things will go better in the future now those are the three languages that are confirmed so we know the president can speak three languages simultaneously they're just traveling on different frequencies as I gave that example the one that maybe I'm the only one who knows us when I met with the president I really shouldn't tell you this but I'm going to tell you this when I met with the president we talked privately and he admitted to me and I'm going to tell you that you know that sonic weapon that was injuring the tip Matt's in the Cuban embassy it wasn't a sonic weapon the President speaks four languages that's right English racist dog whistle gangster code

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English racist dog whistle gangster code sonic weapon the president is responsible for that damage to the Cuban Cuban victims so I think that's what we learned the President speaks four languages simultaneously he's a lot smarter than we thought he's possibly an alien possibly an alien somebody Peter noone is seven says apologists much and that gets you the block the word apologists gets you blocked automatically on my periscopes because and it's not it's not like apologist is the worst like insult or a criticism it's just that it is empty you could certainly disagree with what I say I'm always open to that but to simply label me instead of to talk about the point that's an instant block now on Tuesday

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that's an instant block now on Tuesday next week we'll talk to dr. Shiva about climate change and you you're not gonna want to miss that but let's say if we've got a little time left
was there anything I missed no let me just check with you was there anything that cohen said that made any difference to anything except that it showed that collusion is even less likely than we thought before did I miss anything with the Cohen testimony because it feels like it's all nothing oh alright here's the other thing one of the claims that the some of the Congress people made and it's a claim that Michael Cohen made is that that Trump approves and is aware of every important meeting in not

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aware of every important meeting in not only the Trump Organization but in the campaign how little experience with the world do you have to have to think that's true well you know if you're an experienced business person and you've had any experience in a big organization that it could be a government it could be a large corporation any kind of lure get large organization and I'm watching these politicians and I'm watching Cohen say that the president absolutely positively a hundred percent new whenever there was a meeting at the same time that the president is disengaged and doesn't read defense reports or whatever he's supposed to be reading are you telling me that the same people that you've been painting as hands-off and a touch you know barely paying attention to his job simultaneously knows every meeting that happens in the Trump Organization as

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happens in the Trump Organization as well as every important meeting maybe not every meeting but every important meeting in in the campaign that feels exactly like the opposite of true in fact if you said to me Scott I'd like to make a bet with you I will bet that President Trump approves of and knows a hundred percent of all meetings that happen under his organization's I would take that bet pretty quickly I would give you pretty long odds that meetings happen that are important that do not again not get approved by President Trump all right so that part was funny
yeah I'm just looking at your comments now are you also surprised that we've gotten this far oh and then the other

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gotten this far oh and then the other the other the other accusation about Trump is that he didn't expect to win the presidency and he was negotiating for his Russian building deal you know in case he lost and then he would do that deal to which I say which part of that is not just business well why should he not keep his options open well how was that bad it might have been bad if he decided to go ahead with the project after becoming president but you know the fact that he kept that option open and then I think he's accused of lying to the press about it not a crime not a crime Geraldo said that he revealed more in his vault than Cohen's testimony oh good I'm glad that I'm glad

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testimony oh good I'm glad that I'm glad that Geraldo was on that analogy
oh and then and then Cohen reports that that the president said that Don jr. had you know the worst judgment in the world now does that sound true do you believe that the the president made Don jr. the head of his empire at the same time they thinks he has the worst judgment of anyone in the world do you think that's even slightly true that doesn't even seem like in the universe of true like that you know if you look at the you know the prominent role that Don juniors played throughout the campaign and after the election etc if there's if there's anything you could say for sure that's that the president has trust and Don jr. I mean I would say that's so obvious

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I mean I would say that's so obvious that it's laughable that anybody would say the opposite now that doesn't mean that the president didn't argue with you know some specific decision so you can also guarantee that the President and Don jr. have had periods at which you know they they very much disagreed on how to do something so if you tell me that the president made a sweeping generalization at that time maybe but as clearly it's not true as a general statement that that the president doesn't have confidence and Don Jr I think that's that's as obvious as anything could be by you know the last several years of observation Don brought in Michael Cohen the president hired Michael Cohen and worked with him for years and he hired him after he did a good job on a few projects so you didn't hire him without seeing his work first

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did you ever disagree with your dad not that much actually uh I had one of the worst thoughts and I don't know if I can even say this maybe it's the end of the periscope but I gotta say it anyway I would only say this because Cohen is such a horrible person I mean he really is a bad person Oh should I say this I'm gonna get in trouble if I say this I'm just saying anyway because we're just having coffee right so Cohen's wife who has to endure her all the humiliation of this situation all the risk all the emotional turmoil then her husband's gonna go to jail for three years and then she may have heard for the first time from Matt Gaetz that her husband has had girlfriends or has girlfriends

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girlfriends or has girlfriends that's the bad news right so the bad news and nobody can be happy about that is that his marriage fell apart and that his family are all victims right so there's nothing funny about that his family are victims period so I'm not making light of that however however I'm just gonna say this as a statement of what I think is a fact and then you can do with it what you will
Cohen's wife is now the most dateable woman in whatever city she's in New York City she might be the most eligible kind of single woman ever because they're gonna be a lot of there could be a lot of people who are gonna see her as having a little extra going on and buy a little extra I mean that you know they

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little extra I mean that you know they might like her in general just because she's you know attractive person but they're gonna like the fact that Michael Cohen doesn't like it and so he has transformed completely accidentally he has transformed his wife who under any normal circumstances is you know I actually went and looked at a picture of her because I needed to get a mental picture in my head so she's an attractive woman and her date ability it just went through the roof in in this weird way that nobody would want it to happen right so she's a victim no doubt about that of all this as well as the kids for sure but she became really dateable really really dateable and we'll see how that works out
you didn't defend Alex Jones when he was censored you know I'm not the guy who's

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censored you know I'm not the guy who's going to defend people for saying things that I don't agree with so some people just have to defend themselves [Music]
go and we'll make money from this yeah maybe yeah I think didn't Daryl Scott yeah and I think Reverend Scott said in a tweet or something that that Cohen had tried very hard to get a job in the administration so he got he got outed as a as a liar with there's nothing worse than being called the liar by a minister

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than being called the liar by a minister [Music] you know if you ever get called the liar you better hope it's not a man of the cloth I'm not sure if that does a man of the cloth is that just a Catholic term I don't know how that works but you don't want to be accused of a liar by somebody who literally is teaching the Bible why did he plead to campaign finance charges well it may be that he was forced into that it's not unusual for people to to plead to things that they might not have necessarily been convicted for so that's not unusual so if here if you did a big crime but they're gonna give you some lenience on that because maybe you're helping them in other ways it wouldn't be that unusual to plead guilty to a thing you didn't actually technically do so I think that's a real thing or at

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so I think that's a real thing or at least a lesser crime that's a little bit off point let's put it that way yes I hear you saying you want me to talk to Victor David handsome I hear your message I haven't quite decided how many guests I'm gonna have on here but he would be a great one he would be tremendous then then Lanny Davis so he's apparently doing this without pay and and that's so transparently fraudulent maybe not in a legal sense but it's so obvious that Lanny Davis is not doing this for free in one way or another if you know what I mean right it may be that nobody's writing him a check per se but he's not doing it for free I don't think that's happening

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all right I think we've exhausted this topic and I will talk to you all later