Episode 425 Scott Adams: The TDS WMD Heading Our Way, Smollet and Rats

Date: 2019-02-21 | Duration: 40:10

Topics

The TDS weapon of mass destruction headed our way Mueller report will NOT be made fully public This will trigger a MASSIVE mental health emergency CNN’s Erin Burnett says unrelated things prove Russian Collusion Brennan says people can be unwilling puppets of Russia President Trump’s technique Respectful words about PEOPLE, other country leaders He goes hard on POLICIES, while respecting the people American businessman living in Russia, has the goods on Trump! Desperate much? Were you expecting CNN to offset the Jussie Smollet story? Well…here it is, (accused) white supremacist Coast Guard guy Suggestion: President Trump should request Governor pardon Jussie He didn’t come down with TDS on his own He believed he was acting as a patriot, saving the country People don’t come up with their opinions People are assigned their opinions by the media they follow President Trump could REFRAME Jussie Smollet as a victim of the media that gave him his opinions…fake news Jussie is a victim of media brainwashing, persuasion He GENUINELY believes the CNN, MSNBC propaganda The corrosive feeling of schadenfreude Jussie is a victim of CNN, and I felt happy that he will pay for his crimes Thought Experiment: What if all news was fact-based only If reporting was fair, would Jussie have the opinions he does?

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hey everybody come on in here it's time for coffee with scott adams as luck would have it i'm scott adams and i've got coffee if you're fast you're nimble and you're alert you can join me for the simultaneous sip grab your thermos your cup your chalice your glass your container fill it with your favorite liquid i like coffee and join me for the simultaneous sip
well um i almost got kicked off of twitter today uh and banned from banned from the earth probably would have lost my career etc but i caught myself just in time and let me tell you let me tell you the mistake i almost made are you ready for this so

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i almost made are you ready for this so i didn't do this but man it's a good thing i caught myself here's what i almost did today [Music] there's a story a cnn story about some small island in which a type of rat was killed by i think by rising sea sea levels and the headline is that it's the first mammal to become extinct from man-made climate change it's a rat and it died because the sea level is higher man-made climate change now here's where i almost got in trouble jake tapper tweeted that this morning and i i saw the saw that and i thought i could make a funny joke about this and i thought i'm gonna tweet i'll retweet this and i'll make my own comment and i'll say why does cnn always take sides with

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say why does cnn always take sides with the rats
do you see why i would have lost my entire career if i did that
let me see if anybody can tell now i'm i'm experienced in um in all things uh i'm experienced in all things media but i want to see if you could have seen this coming if i had tweeted that it would have been the end of my career can anybody tell me why it's not because it was jake per se although that's part of the story
does anybody want anybody want to have a guess because i don't think any of you would have seen this i see some people laughing and yeah there we go there we go some people have the right answer um rats historically in the worst possible way have been associated with anti-semitism you know the implication

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anti-semitism you know the implication that the jews of the rats i guess is the anti-semitic element that historically has been sort of as bad as wearing black face right so it's one of the worst things you can do and i'm pretty sure jake is jewish so it would have been the worst possible thing i could have done right because nobody would have believed that i was just making a joke about rats because you know the context would have would have ended me so what i was really going for was cnn's guests not jake in particular but cnn's guests um are are often asked so why is it that the the white supremacists keep taking sides with president trump and so i thought it would be funny to say well why is it that cnn keeps taking sides with rats in this case actual rats that died on an

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in this case actual rats that died on an island and then i was then i thought i'll make it i'll make you some kind of clapper joke it's like yes but clapper's still here and i thought i can't win with this so i bailed out so that's the joke that you didn't hear by the way if you are uh if you are tempted to retweet that joke don't do it don't do it now i'm i'm of the camp that says that you know free speech is great and even if you don't intend it to mean that way it can still be offensive and we just don't need to live in a world where we're offending people for no reason so don't be offensive don't make the mistake i almost made so that's a cautionary tale let's talk about the tds weapon of mass destruction that's heading our way you all know where i'm going with this right so it looks like the um

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so it looks like the um the mueller report will only see whatever uh the new attorney general barr wants us to see could that be any worse could there be anything worse for the health the mental health of the country than to have a partial report there's literally nothing that could be worse if we had you know on day one if we'd known it was going to come to this and by the way why did it take until now for all of us to understand that that report would not be public and that it's actually designed to be a not public report and that the only person who ever could have reported was going to be the attorney general or at least that's who would decide what's reported how did we get all this way
way without knowing the fact that that report was never meant for public consumption how the hell did

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for public consumption how the hell did we get all this way and just find that out i mean we should have had a little warning right seems like from the beginning people should have been you know warning us okay it might take a few years and at the end you're still not going to see the report
so what this has done and all of you are ahead of me you you know that the people who believe the
the russia collusion narrative are going to believe that is really in the report in the parts that were not reported [Music] you know that's going to happen right and the cognitive dissonance is going to be triggered in a way
way that you haven't seen since the election itself so the you know the election triggered massive cognitive dissonance but when the the mueller report comes out and i'm pretty sure it's going to say the president was not guilty of collusion or at least there's no evidence of it i'm pretty

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there's no evidence of it i'm pretty sure it's going to trigger a massive mental health problem and i don't mean that as a joke let me be as clear as possible this is a legitimate emergency it is a mental health emergency and we can predict it you can see what's coming there's no doubt about it in this case there's just no doubt about it this is going to be a mental health emergency because a lot of people are going to be triggered into trying to explain why they believe something for two years that is that had no evidence and i was watching aaron burnett on cnn on a clip and she was explaining that it would be unfair to call the mueller investigation a hoax because people who are not president trump and are not guilty of collusion were were found guilty of things and pleaded

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were found guilty of things and pleaded guilty and charged with things now does that make sense just on its surface [Music] the probe was to discover collusion of the president and they found a bunch of things unrelated to that and the president has said that the collusion investigation was a hoax and a witch hunt and aaron burnett argues that because other things happened that are not related to president trump's you know alleged involvement in collusion with russia that those other things proved that it wasn't a hoax and it wasn't a witch hunt and i say to me
me say to myself how does that even make sense to anybody you know there are lots of things you see in the news where you can say to yourself okay i can see why you would believe that you know you're getting a different news source i can see why you think that or i can see how you'd come to that opinion

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i can see how you'd come to that opinion [Music] but i don't see any logical connective tissue that says this isn't a witch hunt and isn't a hoax because the central part of it looks like it's going to be a big nothing and so i was watching and i i really shouldn't name names but watching uh aaron burnett try to sort of explain the cnn position which i assume matches her own position was painful in other words her face seemed to be in pain because it was so hard to say these words because they weren't they probably i don't want to read her mind all right but it just my observation is that her face showed great pain when she was making this case uh here's some other stuff um she also pointed out in the same argument that john brennan had noted that

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that john brennan had noted that just because there might not be any evidence of trump willingly colluding with russia that sometimes people can collude or at least they can be unwilling puppets so that's that wouldn't be colluding but they could be unwilling puppets of russia and so that's worth noting too and i'm thinking myself what is the standard for being an unwilling puppet how do you measure who's an unwilling puppet for russia let's say let's say a space alien came down to earth who was completely unbiased just a space alien lands here and amazingly can speak english and understand our culture and can read the news but they're totally unbiased because they spend no time on earth and they look at the evidence they watch cnn's coverage which attacks this president all day long and then they watch

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all day long and then they watch president trump's actions and words about russia and they note that he says kind things about every let's say dictator because that's his good persuasion technique he stays respectful to the person while going hard at the policies you see it in china high respect for president xi but maximum pressure on the trade deals you saw with north korea nice words about president or about kim while going hard on the negotiations we see it with russia nice words about putin while going hard at russia on a whole variety of things so the alien would say oh i see the pattern he always says nice thing about things about the leaders but then what he does policy-wise is pretty tough and he goes okay i conclude that this person this president trump person is not a asset for russia he just always talks

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asset for russia he just always talks nice and then acts hard that's just his pattern and by the way it makes perfect sense it is the reason north korea negotiations are going well it is the reason we'll probably get a good outcome with china without becoming lifelong enemies it is the reason that if we make any progress with putin and i wouldn't say that we have it will be because he is maintaining this duality of treating the leader with respect while going hard at the policies
it's a good strategy but then let's say the space alien who is unbiased looks at cnn's coverage and they see that they're attacking the president and all of his people non-stop every day for years and who else would like to attack the united states and have about bad outcome and you know lower the the morale and the you know the good feelings in this country who

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the good feelings in this country who else would want to do that putin putin right at least we think so i mean i haven't talked to him but that's that's the word on putin so wouldn't the space alien determine that cnn was an unwitting asset for russia now i say that with all seriousness i'm not making a a clever humorous point i'm saying that if a space alien went down and analyzed it objectively and compared trump to cnn it wouldn't even be close the alien would conclude the cnn was a russian asset if it assumed that one of them was right if it started with that assumption that's highly hypothetical so it doesn't persuade you but i just felt like making that point all right now cnn is also talking about today a witness some uh some american business person who has russian connections and also

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who has russian connections and also hosted uh trump when he was a private citizen a few decades ago when he visited russia and there's a suspicion that maybe this russian this this american who's in russia so we can't get to him has the goods on on trump and i just looked at the story and i thought this feels so desperate do you know what the evidence is of what this american businessman who lives in russia is do you know what the evidence is
is that he has the goods on some kind of goods on russia none it's just somebody who knows trump and knows russians that's it that's the evidence it's being reported as news as but if if we could get to this guy we'd probably find out things that the mueller investigation couldn't find out and that's the only reason mueller found nothing because i couldn't get to this guy he's the one who has it all
all there's no evidence of that there's

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there's no evidence of that there's simply evidence that there's a guy they'd like to talk to that's it
all right then there's also a story you can see that the anti-trump media is trying to trying to get rid of the uh the jesse smallett story and you know trying to get rid of the covington kids and these stories that are all bad for their narrative and so sure enough like clockwork how many of you knew that this week there would be stories about white supremacists trying to do dangerous stuff didn't you know that was going to be a cnn story sure enough perfect timing there's a story about some uh national guard crazy guy who who they're calling a white supremacist because they found an uh an email that he had not sent but he had composed to a white supremacist saying that um saying that

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saying that um saying that the us needs to be a white country because europe is lost so that's what it said in email now i'm not going to argue that he wasn't a white supremacist right so i will accept the probability that if he wrote an email to a known neo-nazi and if he said the things that are reported well that sounds pretty white supremacist to me so i accept that part but here's the thing also in his emails they they got to see his motives and his plans for all the weapons he had acquired and he said he wanted to kill everyone on earth and on his list were chuck schumer and other white people now let's say he's a white supremacist and the evidence seems you know if it's confirmed of course the first 48 hours of every story you should assume that everything could change but if it's confirmed that he's a white supremacist

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white supremacist it's probably also going to be confirmed that that's not the motivation for killing all the white people in the country or no all the white people in the world because he wanted to do that he'd be a very bad white supremacist if he wanted to
to kill all the white people
um well he did say he wanted to kill all somebody saying chuck schumer isn't white because he's jewish i don't accept that that interpretation but in any event he did say that he wanted to kill all the people in the world and of course many of them would be white he did not say i want to kill all the people who are not white so here's here's where i'm going with this he is a white supremacist probably assuming that gets confirmed and he did want to do some terribly bad things but they're not exactly connected so far we've seen no evidence that the wanting to kill

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wanting to kill all the people in the world was necessarily related to him being a white supremacist but it's the best they could come up with what they really needed was a like a clean story of a real white supremacist killing non-white people or attempting to that was the story that they really needed but they couldn't get that one and you know time was critical so they got one that was well at least he's white supremacist we don't know what he was going to do with the guns but we don't like it um and by the way i'm not defending the white supremacist so if anybody if it sounds like that just understand that all right i'm expecting an enormous tds problem when the mueller report drops and i'm going to suggest
a solution that i don't think will be used but it will teach you something about persuasion

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persuasion all right so this is a non-practical suggestion that would teach you something about persuasion and also would deal directly with the tds that's about about to happen and it's going to be dangerous i'm not kidding there's no hyperbole here the mental health of the country is really going to be challenged fairly soon with this mueller report and here's the suggestion now remember this is not a practical suggestion it's just something that could be done and this would be easy to do so so implementation would be simple and it would directly deal with tds and you're gonna freaking hate it you're gonna freaking hate this suggestion you ready the president cannot pardon jesse smullet because it's a
a state crime not a federal crime but the president does represent

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but the president does represent a body of people not just the country but more you know in political terms his base and this crime that smullet um committed against let's say you know in a sense it was against the police but it was largely a crime against trump's supporters it was a hate crime against trump supporters
the best persuasion move that the president could make to get ahead of the mueller tds that's coming which is a real real problem is to say publicly that he recommends the governor pardons mullet and that we should use it as a lesson for wait for the good part wait for the good part a lesson on the brainwashing i wouldn't use that word but the persuasion coming

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persuasion coming from the anti-trump world let me ask you this do you believe that jesse smullet came to his current opinions independently do you believe that he looked at objective information looked at both sides of all the arguments and decided that things were so bad in the country and especially that president trump was such a problem and trump's supporters were such a problem that he risked his career and it was a big risk i mean i'm sure he knew it was a risk that he risked his career to try to solve what he saw here i'm getting ahead of myself because maybe he's just crazy but let's assume that when the police interview him he says all right you know and he's i think he's still maintaining his innocence so let's let's imagine this is speculative let's imagine that we find out that he's definitely guilty he decides to confess and he says look i'm going to be honest

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i'm going to be honest i thought the country wasn't at risk and this was my way of you know ensuring he didn't get reelected it was a thing i could do i was acting like a patriot to protect the country you know what if he said that i would believe it because as i've been telling you for last several years people do not come up with their own political opinions they are assigned their opinions by the media that they choose to consume people are assigned opinions they are quite literally brainwashed both sides it's not just cnn watchers it's just whatever you watch whatever you consume if you don't look at both sides you're definitely being brainwashed there's no doubt about it and i mean that literally you are being mentally rewired to become a different person and to have different views can cnn msnbc and the anti-trump media

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can cnn msnbc and the anti-trump media do something that powerful yes it's obvious you all you have to do is look at half of hollywood and you can see that they are literally experiencing a mental derangement and a true belief that they're living in a country with a dictator there they actually believe it despite any evidence of the contrary they believe this to be true so in my opinion president trump could and i'm not predicting he'll do this so don't worry about it happening right so those of you who are objecting to this you don't really have to because it's not going to happen
the president could reframe the situation in the whole country so that people understand that the enemy of the people the media are the people who victimized jesse smullet boom jesse smallett if he was acting in his mind as a

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if he was acting in his mind as a patriot is the victim
now that doesn't excuse the fact that he broke laws it doesn't excuse the fact that he you know he uh targeted a group of the country everything he did is bad and that's the reason there are laws about that kind of stuff so the law is quite clear and if he did what we imagined he did and what it's alleged that he did there's a reason that there's jail jail time involved with that i mean those are serious things but that's also why people get pardons as opposed to getting released from you know in a jury trial the pardon is for people who are guilty pardons are not for people who are not guilty pardons are for people who did some bad stuff but there are some extenuating circumstances maybe they've been in jail too long you know lots of different reasons so president trump could and this is just a

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president trump could and this is just a persuasion lesson i'm not recommending it not saying it's going to happen could write an open letter he could say this is this looks like a case of the media brainwashing jesse smullet to violence
i recommend that not only does the governor pardon him but that he come to the white house and see if we can work with him to make the world a better place maybe there's there's something of interest that he could be involved with now
now [Music] but he's not asking for forgiveness it's not really a forgiveness play forgiveness is not the play here
let me tell you my own view of this like most of you when i heard that you know jesse smullett's story fell apart and that he might have legal jeopardy i felt that um you know the word shot in freud another

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you know the word shot in freud another german word because we we don't have a good word for it in in english but john freud means the enjoyment of bad things happening to other people and i felt that i literally felt happiness that something bad was going to happen to jesse's smallet and as that sort of corrosive feeling sunk in i started feeling ashamed of myself because i don't want to live in that world i don't want to live in a world where jesse smallett can be a victim of cnn
cnn and then i could be happy that something bad happens to him now i understand he was trying to do something bad to trump supporters and that would include me in the in a general sense but i can't feel good about this i felt good when i first heard the news but as it sinks in a little bit um

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but as it sinks in a little bit um unless there's something about this story that comes out that's new and it could be you know if it comes out that he has let's say mental health issues well then i also feel sorry for him right you still have to do what the law requires you to do you know maybe there's no no forgiveness that that works in a functional sense but i can't hate him because whatever the hell he did or whatever reason he did it assuming he's not literally mentally insane he probably did it in good conscience meaning that he believed the cnn's and msnbc's and the new york times and the washington post that he believed their version of reality and he was acting like a patriot to do what he could to get rid of this trump dictator and cause some pain to the the the nazis in his opinion so imagine how wildly reframed

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imagine how wildly reframed things would look if president trump recommended to the governor that they go easy on them now in this case president trump would be talking as the aggrieved party in other words he's the victim president trump is the victim of the crime you could say that using the police resources creates other victims as well and that that's important but he does represent the group and you know and the entity the people that support him he does represent us in some sense and if he said look i would prefer that we understand what happened instead of just punishing i prefer we understand how we got to this point and would like to bring him to the white house talk to him find out what happened and understand that we're living in two different movies and he may have been lost in one of the movies and that we have to do a better job of

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and that we have to do a better job of uh of being objective about the news now can you feel the reframe there now i know what a lot of you are thinking you're thinking that you just need that revenge you just you just need that dopamine hit from your shot and freud you just you just can't let these lefties get away with it you know if this were a conservative nobody would talk about pardoning or nobody would talk about you know going easy on a conservative right is that what you're thinking you're thinking that's not fair why should we go easy on the people who are in these they would never go easy on us it's about strategy if you go hard at your enemies they'll go hard at you and that's that's it forever you know if if you wish yourself into a tit-for-tat situation well that's what you'll get but
but for the price of one

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for the price of one person who you think should go to jail and you're right really mad for the price of that one person maybe not going to jail [Music] you could change the entire way that the country looks at its situation you could reframe the entire way we understand the story to take the guilt away from the brainwashed person and put it where it belongs and this is not a stretch of the imagination the blame squarely belongs with the fake news enemy of the people
groups now what's different about today compared to even let's say 20 years ago is that the ability of the the press to tweak your emotional centers and cause you to act is better than it's ever been so while i don't think the press could have brainwashed people too effectively in the 60s in 2019 they can brainwash

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in 2019 they can brainwash they can absolutely make you believe things that are ridiculous and you see it all the time right plenty of examples [Music] so um you got really quiet i was watching the comments you got really quiet now nobody says he's not a criminal nobody says these crimes are are trivial nobody says that people should be let's say unaffected by you know the legal system no but nobody thinks he should be above the legal system but for strategy purposes yes somebody used the word here as a strategy sometimes you have to give up a pawn
so smaller is a pawn in the larger game of chess which is the country and if the president decided to trade upon for reframing the entire issue to support his story that the enemy of the people

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his story that the enemy of the people the press are so bad that they weaponize this guy into doing this which is exactly what happened in my opinion until new information changes my mind which it might um
yeah we have to wait and see what the legal system comes up with it might be too
too somebody says you tried the high ground with hawk newsome and you failed well here's the thing hawk
has always needed to let's say be compatible with his base in other words he needs needs to pace them and agree with them or else he can't be a leader right you can't be a leader if your base is on such a different page that you can't even you can't even get them to listen to you so his problem was that getting even a little bit friendly with the people they imagine are are the enemy just didn't work so

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just didn't work so my problem with hawk is not hawk it's not about him as a person because i actually think he has good intentions it's just that he's in a situation in which he couldn't you know he's given that he's representing you could argue the most radical anti-trump view it was just it was just too much of a gap to try to find a way to work together his his side would not allow that and and he got a little more provocative than i could handle because i couldn't work with him if he stayed as provocative racially provocative as as he did so it's not personal you know my disagreement with hawke is not personal it is entirely based on the the two things just were not compatible as a as a way to move forward i couldn't be part of that all right
um he is an adult and needs to be held accountable yeah none of that has

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accountable yeah none of that has anything to do with my point so here are the things that don't address my point he is guilty he did a bad thing the law must treat everybody equal he's an adult so he must take responsibility those are all true things but they don't address my point because the whole point of a pardon is that you're dealing with guilty people they are guilty there's you don't talk about a pardon typically for someone who's innocent that's a different process [Music] somebody says he's complicit in the brainwashing he's not a victim of it well let me ask you this uh here's a here's a mental experiment imagine if there were no biased news sources so imagine that the news were reported just facts and if and if the news didn't know a fact it wouldn't report it and if it didn't have two sources

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have two sources that they could name they wouldn't report it so imagine a world where only facts are reported would jesse smollett have felt the way he felt about president trump and his supporters not a chance there's not a chance that any citizen is making their own decisions they're not they're being assigned opinions now i have a theory that the reason that hollywood types and artists and creative types are more susceptible is that they think in terms of stories if you're an actor if you're in hollywood you you your brain is optimized for narrative and stories [Music] you are say an engineer you're a scientist you're a business person your brain is optimized to look past bias that's what those

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past bias that's what those you know those professions do they teach you the skill of looking past the bias so it should not be a surprise that the people who are most torqued up you know the the people who are angry to the point of acting insane or doing things that look insane it's not a surprise that there's a certain segment of the population who's more susceptible to that because they don't have the background in training to recognize bias and and to maybe see around it a little bit
you haven't given one example where the media acknowledged a positive trump move were we even talking about that [Music]
stunt was organized by because he was dissatisfied with his salary

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dissatisfied with his salary well that would be interesting so if it turns out that this had nothing to do with politics and and maybe that will happen if it turns out that he doesn't believe that trump is a monster and he only did it for his salary well then i say you have to go to jail that's really the end of the story so we're going to find out more and it might turn out that the the approach that i uh suggested might not fit the facts when we learned it but it could be a combination it could be that he did it to get his salary increased but it could be that at the same time he believed that trump was a monster and that you know he was just attacking a monster and there's nothing wrong with that that too would have been

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all right you're assuming his mental state in this whole scenario uh no i'm not i'll say a slower we don't know his mental state if it turns out as i just said that he has mental problems that means one thing if it turns out he was doing it just for career reasons that means another thing we don't know and when we do know we'll know what to do so i was talking in
in in the speculative forum which i clearly labeled which is it if it's exactly what it looks like sort of an anti-trump political act that may have had some impact on his salary he thought but if it was a political act then you go one direction and [Music]
sorry i've got a touch of the flu not a touch i've got quite a bit of flu so if i said anything uh crazy today i

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so if i said anything uh crazy today i blame the flu um and that's my excuse all right that's all i got to say for now and i will talk to you later