Episode 420 Scott Adams: TDS on CNN, With Coffee

Date: 2019-02-18 | Duration: 48:05

Topics

There are simple explanations…and extraordinary ones McCabe opened Presidential investigations, rejecting simple, likely explanations, for extraordinary ones CNN Alisyn Camerota says President Trump has no sense of humor Brian Stelter’s reaction, realizing she’s nuts is pretty funny President Trump “is humorless”, “humor impaired”? Huh! Brian Stelter plays compilation clip of FOX people saying “coup!” Philip Bump says NOT a coup, cause low odds of success Brain Stelter DOESN’T seem to suffer from TDS He seems to just be pushing CNN Democrat narratives President Abe of Japan nominates President Trump for the Nobel Even CNN has concluded that the Jussie Smollet thing was a hoax People are influenced by “good stories” and anecdotes Socialism’s story is that they don’t want 25,000 new jobs Kamala Harris, there’s nothing bad about Kamala Harris, she’s solid There’s nothing interesting about her either Joe Biden would be a GREAT Democrat candidate He can’t possibly win, and it would be REALLY funny Michael Bloomberg won’t run, won’t get to top three, knows it Mark Benioff is the real deal in a very good way, won’t run though He seems to operate at a higher level than most people Kamala is a “target poor” environment for attack by conservatives Scott Adams, as a systems (not goals) candidate for President Got an idea on gun control? I’ll try it…small, see how it goes I’ll always be about a SYSTEM to find solutions I’d have the experts front and center on border security Beyond expert opinion it’s just political BS

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look at that view foggy but at least it's not a forest fire
hello hello everybody yes i will turn out this light i know you're going to ask me to [Music] you know if it weren't for low production values i wouldn't have any production values at all
all hey everybody it's time for coffee with scott adams i'm scott adams this is coffee and it's time for the simultaneous sip grab your mug your cup your glass your vessel your stein your chalice your thermos fill it with your favorite liquid i like coffee and join me for the simultaneous sip
now there are two funny snippets on uh that i tweeted today both of them are from cnn

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are from cnn and both of them are from uh brian stelter's show i'm going to try to play them back for you the quality will be bad but you can see them on my twitter feed
the first one is so this is uh brian stelter and he's uh he's interviewing on his show uh alison camarado one of the cnn hosts and her claim here's the funny part are you ready for this she claims that president trump has no sense of humor and doesn't ever tell jokes now the funny part about it is not that the claim is so ridiculous the funny part about it and you have to watch it yourself you see it in my twitter feed the funny part is watching brian stelter's reaction to it because even he realizes that she's deep

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because even he realizes that she's deep in
in trump derangement syndrome and twice he goes huh and i'm gonna see if you can hear it listen listen to what she says but the funny part is up front he goes huh and then after she explains a little more he goes huh and it's the huh that's the funny part because you you see him realizing that she's batshit crazy and it's happening right in front of him so it's one thing for those of you who are trump supporters to watch somebody in trump derangement syndrome because that's your normal situation right trump supporter sees a trump hater experiencing trump derangement syndrome but when you watch an anti-trumper see trump derangement syndrome right in front of him you can almost feel like this light going on and so listen for it there's two two places he goes huh the first one is right off the front it's one of the first things you'll hear and wait for the second one because it's

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and wait for the second one because it's hilarious right oh yes but the problem is this is one of the very unique things about president trump he's humorless
this is not an original thought today he is has never been captured laughing on any camera of any kind he doesn't has never made a joke it was not a funny one he doesn't he's humor impaired
is and this is where the all right you got to hear this again the this is really sensational all right yeah i'm just going to play it again because it's so good oh yes but the problem is one of the very unique things about president trump he's humorless he is humorous this is not an original thought today he is has never been captured laughing on any camera of any kind he doesn't has

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on any camera of any kind he doesn't has never made a joke it was not a funny one he doesn't he's humor impaired [Laughter] now there is certainly a lot of room for personal opinion in politics there's lots of room for judgment calls but this is a president who's literally famous for for his sense of humor it's one of his most defining characteristics and she hasn't noticed she hasn't noticed that his rallies are basically stand-up humor mixed with politics she hasn't noticed that he's the funniest tweeter of all time she she's never seen him laugh i've seen him laugh
you have to admit that's funny but was it the funniest thing that happened on brian's show

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happened on brian's show this week well maybe not possibly uh possibly even funnier was philip bump who writes for the washington post um so brian stelter showed a uh a series of fox news clips in which people on fox news were calling um mccabe's um interview with 60 minutes where he revealed that there was a discussion about the 25th amendment and on fox news it's being called uh variously a soft coup a low energy coup or or a potential coup but they use the word coup a lot so brian plays first uh brian stelter plays a clip of all the times that the fox news people called it a coup and then he throws it to philip bump who writes for the washington post not a friend of president trump and philip bump defends it as not a coup this way he says well

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this way he says well it would take half of the cabinet plus mike pence to actually succeed with that 25th amendment thing so that's hardly a coup
what in other words it's not a coup because the odds of it working weren't high
what you have to reach really hard to say that it's not a coup if it had a low chance of succeeding that is the worst defense i've ever seen it's the worst defense well you you'd have to really reach to call that a coup because so many people would have had to approve it what
so those are the two funniest things and i have to believe that you know based on brian stelter's reaction to to those stories don't you think

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to those stories don't you think he's figuring out what's going on and this may surprise you but i'm going to give some props to brian stelter you know we've been watching him for three years or whatever talking about president trump and then candidate trump before that and he's no friend of the president everybody knows that and his reporting is consistently critical but when i watch him he seems more like a partisan who knows what network he's on and he produces produces content that fits in that network he doesn't look hypnotized to me now that's just a judgment call right but there are some people who look like they're actually experience some kind of delusional thinking and there are other people who are just clearly on a on a team and they're reporting or the way they talk about things is sort of close to the team but they don't look crazy i would say that brian stelter

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that brian stelter does not look crazy he doesn't seem to be suffering from tds most of the time he say he has a side and you could tell what it is you know i'm sure he wouldn't he would not acknowledge that but you would you know it's clear that he's not a fox news type personality he's a cnn personality but i don't see evidence that he's actually like in some kind of fog of tds whereas when you see something like these two examples they're uh they're really scary because they don't look like it doesn't look like regular human thought it looks like there's something wrong uh and and that's hilarious so we may be entering a time when even the critics of president trump start to see their own their own cohorts their own peers as being crazy so that might be the next step you know

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so that might be the next step you know it's been a long time where the trump supporters think the anti-trumpers are crazy you know with tds but i think you're going to start seeing the anti-trumpers split in two with half of them calling the other half crazy and at least saying well the socialism won't work and you know you're going to see a lot of a lot of dissension within the anti-trump side that's what i think now you saw the story that trump uh allegedly asked japan and japan's uh president abe to
to to make a recommendation for the nobel peace prize [Laughter] and of course the president talks about it as though japan had this idea and then japan talks about it as if they suggested that that they do it and i don't i don't dislike anything about that

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because you know the whole the whole process of being uh nominated for a nobel prize it's kind of political and there's it's not really scientific the way they do it there's a element of popularity and you know it's just how people feel and it's the zeitgeist and you know there's a lot that goes into that decision so given that it's not like a something like a scientific process or something the fact that he may be putting his finger on the scale allegedly is completely just funny to me right and if you don't see that as funny i think you're dead inside now other people are saying he deserves it and i think i'm in the camp of he may be very close to deserving it meaning that this next meeting with north korea might tell us how serious they are in a way that we didn't quite know before so we'll see if this next meeting gets us to a point where that nobel prize makes sense

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all right um so the jesse small a or smallet smullet
i keep wanting to make a joke about he he whose mullet dealt it but if you don't if you don't understand that joke i'm not going to explain it
so am i am i right or wrong that the news has unambiguously decided that it's a hoax has even cnn decided that the jesse smaller thing was a hoax can somebody confirm that or is that just news you're seeing them on on the right is the left also acknowledging that it didn't happen i i went back and i was watching his interview for good morning america i guess and uh it's really it's interesting to watch him because

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watching him uh tell his tale was interesting and the cnn thinks it's a hoax okay so it's really interesting because he's a professional actor and so when you try to see it after the fact you know once you've already heard confirmation that it's a hoax and you look at it after the fact and you you check to see how good a liar he is
is if that's what was happening and it looked really good what do you say because i was looking for all the the tells you know the little tells that somebody's lying i didn't see any now maybe somebody who's better at doing that sort of thing could um yeah he cried but actor right so if you were to take the you know the top one percent of actors in the world and ask them to lie
lie probably the top one percent of people who have acting talent could probably lie fairly convincingly so

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never let an actor write a script perfect example
yeah and then there's that weird connection between kamala and her anti-lynching uh legislation which happened to be weirdly coincidentally at the same time that that jesse uh smullet claimed that somebody put a rope around his neck so that's kind of a coincidence isn't it or is it
all right um let's talk about mccabe so i was watching the 60 minutes clip where i guess scott pelly is talking to him and
and it was fascinating to watch scott pelley ask the questions because mccabe describes basically why they started the investigation against the president for this alleged russia collusion and

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for this alleged russia collusion and you see scott pelley's uh listen to it all and then he just sort of leans back and he's like and why did you have to do this i'm paraphrasing he didn't use those words but you're even watching the person asking the question saying um and therefore like like the the argument is so weak that it's just not obvious why it even makes sense sort of makes sense so if i understand mccabe's argument it goes like this there was you know evidence that russia was interfering in the in in the election but then uh because trump wanted to fire uh comey and comey was you know part of that investigation that that looked like obstruction but here's the problem and and because it looked like obstruction what was he trying to hide you know why was he trying to stop a a look into russia's involvement and

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and here's the problem there were two reasonable reasons why the president would want to fire comey one is to stop him from finding out the truth and the other is that comey was on a witch hunt wouldn't they look exactly the same how do those two things look different you know if you're looking at the president wanting to fire comey there were there were two completely good reasons one comey needed to be fired and he was involved in a witch hunt that's a waste of time and bad for the country and there was no truth to it and and of course the president would have known that and nobody else would have known that only the president knew for sure that there was nothing to the investigation at least in terms of the president's involvement he knew for sure so if the person who knows for sure fires a person that he is legally allowed to fire for a reason that he wasn't hiding which

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for a reason that he wasn't hiding which is this guy's involved in this witch hunt there's nothing to it i'm going to get rid of him and other other reasons that gave him a lack of confidence that looks exactly like somebody firing somebody to cover something up how could you tell them apart and so the question i ask you is this if somebody does something that has both a perfectly rational reason but also you can't rule out the fantastical reason is that a good enough reason to investigate the president that you can't rule out that there was a crime do you know other situations you can't rule out that there was a crime all of them let me say that again do you know what other situations you can't
rule out that there was a crime everything the the entire world is stuff that you can't rule out there

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is stuff that you can't rule out there was a crime you know i don't think somebody's being murdered on my lawn while i say here but i can't rule it out you know i don't i don't think that somebody's next door embezzling but i can't rule it out i don't think there's a horrible crime happening in my neighbor's house but i can't rule it out it seems like you should need something like positive evidence shouldn't you the can't rule it out doesn't feel like evidence because the whole world is stuff you can't rule out you can't prove a negative you know was was mccabe trying to prove i mean how can he prove that trump wasn't involved in collusion you know can you prove a negative i'm not sure that made sense what i just said but pretend it did
now um so that was the part that in my opinion it looked like scott

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that in my opinion it looked like scott pelley was sort of acting like he didn't understand the point because i don't think i understand the point either in other words scott pelley's response looked legitimate it's like i'm not seeing the reason the reason is that you can't rule out there was a crime is that a reason that doesn't sound like a reason anyway it's time for the second simultaneous sip are you ready gotta be nimble all right no predicate somebody says no predicate meaning is that just fancy lawyer talk for saying that there's not positive evidence in favor of their theory um mike wallace would have hammered that fool someone says

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yeah i'm not sure if that applies in this case but you know i also don't know if counter if counterintelligence has the same standards as regular law enforcement if your job is counterintelligence it might make sense that you look into anything that looks suspicious and it's you know a different standard of evidence than taking somebody to trial so i will give him that but i still don't feel like that was enough that firing comey just didn't seem like enough um
and and why is it and why is it [Music] um yeah
i hear a lot of comments about david pakeman people you know i did go on his show recently so
so he's heard my opinion recently [Music]

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[Music] and by the way you know to his credit you know i i know a lot of you think david pakman is big anti-trumper and he is but to his credit he you know sought me out based on some interaction we had on twitter and asked me to be on his show and gave me complete you know complete uh opportunity to have my say so um you know if you're if you're sorting out the good guys from the bad guys i would say david pakman has allowed a full a full hearing of the other side on his show so you have to count that you have to count that as being reasonable
special counsels are for crimes not counterintelligence well but they look for crimes

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mueller was cover-up for the deep state all right so i don't have much else to say on that topic do you have anything else you want to talk about happy presidents day
laura logan of cbs breaks from left-wing media heist i don't know what that's all about
all right looks like we don't have any questions oh what if no report
so there's an option that mueller might not write a report or that we just might not hear about it so i don't know i think one of those two things will happen that we won't we probably won't get to see the report just to guess global warming let me tell you where i am in global warming so i asked tony heller one of the most prominent climate skeptics to put together his top five um skeptical arguments

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five um skeptical arguments and he's working on that now so the format will be you'll i hope this is what we're heading to
to five simply stated points as in you know this was measured wrong or the science is wrong or whatever and then i want him to you know quickly explain what the point is and then have a link to a backup argument so you can see the the data and the sources and stuff and then i'm going to see if i can get somebody who is a climate expert on the other side to um to respond to it and then i'll ask tony to respond again and we'll see how many iterations we can do with at least one of those points and see if we can chase it down to something like a conclusion um
um [Music] so that will be interesting and that you should look for that next few weeks i guess [Music]

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what do i think of the yellow vest in france i'm not really following that
can you roll blunts who can't um no one has been killed by a man-made global warming [Music] um you know what i'd i wonder is doesn't it seem to you that the very the very simplest thing we should know about climate change should be a sea level right wouldn't you say that sea level is the one thing that we should be able to measure to tell us if things are going wrong so i wonder if you could uh create a betting market so hang with me on this for a minute so there are people who are worried about climate change and people are not and one of the biggest impacts of climate no matter which way you go even if you commit to fighting it cost a trillion

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commit to fighting it cost a trillion dollars if it's real and you don't fight it it might cost you trillions of dollars and so there's big money involved but it makes me wonder if you could create some kind of an insurance slash of betting market based on based on predictions of sea level so let's say you created a betting market where people who believe that's that climate change will wipe out miami or something and they agree on a specific set of things to measure over the next 10 years maybe five years is long enough but let's say 10.
10. and they make a bet and the bet goes like this that the people who believe that sea level rise if it rises to a certain level some minimum level that the people who said it would win the bet so even though climate change comes and there are people affected by it the people who believed it all along and

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the people who believed it all along and were right get to win the bet so even though climate change might cost some money in terms of the the larger economy the people who were correct and bet on it
it win a bunch of money and then the skeptics who say that it's not the big problem that is claimed they also have a chance to take money from the people who are the alarmists because if they're right after 10 years they get the they get the bet they get the pot and i'm wondering why doesn't that exist and if it did exist where would be the places that you would measure that you would be most confident let me put that another way is there such a thing as one place that if that sea level went up as predicted you'd know that the the theories about climate change were absolutely correct or is it one of those

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absolutely correct or is it one of those situations where you can't tell exactly which sea levels are going to go up by how much because some could go down and some could go up so it's this is some kind of you know global average of all that is that the only way you could know or could you say we're going to bet everything on miami that's it you know the other places matter but if it's if it's true it's going to be true in miami is that a thing i don't know if that's a thing you know could you say that and would that be a legitimate bet i was like it's all it's just miami c level that's it that's all we're going to measure that's all we're going to bet on and if that doesn't go up then climate change isn't real could could you make such a bet that's the question somebody says not really because the land is also rising and falling that's true so sea level changes because land itself can go up and down for different reasons but we probably know where those places are by now right so we would know

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are by now right so we would know if miami just to pick one place we would know if that's a place where the land itself is moving so it might not be miami that's the right choice but there must be some place where we can eliminate those other forces and say okay over here the land isn't moving so let's just make this our place we we measure
i do understand that it's going to be moving in different ways in different places around the world no matter what so i do understand that but there might be one place that's the good place to to measure and i wonder about that all right um [Music] would it be more sensible to work on climate agility and resilience yeah but the one place that it's hard to be resilient is coastal cities so if that's where the big risk is that you lose entire cities

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you lose entire cities then we could focus on that and because that's that's a pretty big problem and i don't know how you could be resilient about how could you possibly be resilient about miami being under water that's that's not something you can fix with you know a rag and some spray tulsi gabbard i still don't give her much for chance
why is there so much spin up against iran right now well apparently iran has some some new weapons they've got iran has a potentially nuclear submarine i guess that they launched and they also have new icbm i think so they're they're developing some serious weaponry i have to ask myself how good is an iranian submarine

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is an iranian submarine wasn't that your first you know if you saw that oh my nose itches sorry it's just an itchy nose um
i saw a picture of the submarine and i gotta say design-wise it wasn't it wasn't a fine-looking submarine [Music] indeed i would be a little bit afraid to be in that submarine so i suspect without evidence to back this up but i suspect that iran's submarine might not be the danger that you worry i mean it could be that you know uh that we can track it easily because it's noisy you know it might be that you know in the real world we could take it out in 10 minutes i mean i don't know i don't believe it's a nuclear powered sub no so that means it would have some weaknesses especially needing to refuel um

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especially needing to refuel um your ideas on amazon new york city well yeah that situation is pretty well picked apart by other people i don't have much to say about that i i you know it is [Music] it's probably terrible for the socialist side to be blamed for chasing away 25 000 uh jobs because you know how people are uh were influenced by anecdotes so one good story means more than a bunch of good concepts it means more than math and means more than good reasons just one good story can be very persuasive and the story that socialism just created aside from venezuela is well we just lost 25 000 jobs because amazon is the devil according to socialists i guess so that's a bad look

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people are asking will joe biden run god i hope so is there anybody else here who hopes joe biden will run am i the only one who thinks that would be the most fun i don't think anybody else would be fun you know as as solid as i think kamala harris is as a candidate and i would say she is solid she doesn't have there's no obvious weakness with kamala harris but there's also nothing special you see what i'm saying there's nothing there's nothing that's quite the x factor there's nothing that makes her rise above she just doesn't have an obvious flaw now some people were looking for this willie brown connection that's nothing you know people just don't care about that stuff anymore
but joe would be interesting because you know that the chemistry between him and trump

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between him and trump would be hilarious you know it would be a
a quote extravaganza and you know that he wouldn't win [Laughter] that's the best part about it is he wouldn't have a chance of winning i know he's polling the highest because i think people think in terms of name recognition and they think well he has the best chance of winning and that's all that matters but the the anti-trump media seems so clearly behind kamala that i can't imagine that he would he would end up getting the nomination but will he run i don't know you know it would be hard for him not to run
run if he is uh if he remains solidly on top of the uh the polls yeah how does he convince himself that this isn't the time this is the time but of course i believe he's too old

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and um all of those videos of him uh touching people you know he's sort of a hands-on politician uh i don't know if any of that plays on the left you know i've seen those videos a billion times but i don't know if any biden supporters have ever seen that video you know with that video meaning the compilation videos of him trying to hug and kiss little girls and and they squirm away and they don't like it but i don't know that anybody seen that on the left so it might not make any difference at all
somebody just said that kamala leads unpredictable that would be a better probably a better prediction place than just looking at the polls so why is kamala the chosen one well there are a number of reasons number one she is solid and she could

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she is solid and she could she could win and i think everybody else is either weaker in some specific way or some general way they don't you know they don't have the right you know gender don't have the right ethnic advantages advantages in terms of elections and [Music] yeah she's the right age right gender right ethnicity she's a senator she's from california she's got a lot of hillary's advisors went to her but more importantly you see that the the media has sort of appointed her you probably all saw the video of there were i guess some reporters who cover her from cnn and cbs and they were joking and laughing and trying on jackets helping her try on some jacket at the store and they got some pushback for being you know too friendly with the person they're covering

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um which was hilarious because they they put her in a god-awful jacket and the picture was just horrible
bloomberg i don't think bloomberg is going to get into it i think bloomberg will make the calculation that he can't get to the top three and i think he'd be right about that it's just not his it's it's not the right time somebody says i think mark benioff should run you know i've said this before i uh i got a chance to chat with mark benioff one time a few years ago so he's the founder ceo of salesforce so he's a he's a billionaire and he's also famous for being a um philanthropist so he's got a hospital that he funds and he uh makes sure that his company and his employees and himself they give one percent of what they earned to charity so he's

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what they earned to charity so he's he's my uh my impression of him from the little bit of time we spent together was that he's the real deal if he ran for president i'll tell you i would take a hard look at that because he's he's not like regular people i'll tell you that but in a good way he's he seems to be operating at a i hate to say this but a higher level of consciousness
don't you hate that kind of talk but when you talk to betty off you don't feel like you talk to a regular person meaning that he just seems to be operating at some higher level of vibration and i don't know if the world's ready for that you know maybe he's he might be living too far in the future but he'd be interesting he'd be a heck of a candidate if he if he ever got serious about it [Music]

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everything people say about kamala could have said about rubio that's a interesting comparison that's not bad yeah rubio also had the quality of there was nothing especially wrong with him wouldn't you say so marco rubio didn't win but it was hard to find something specific that was the problem he didn't have any you know glaring weakness so i think that's a good comparison
what do i think of sherrod brown i can't get past his voice
that shouldn't matter but in the real world it does i just can't i can't listen to him for long
uh will nevall run at some point i don't know if that's possible he wasn't born in this country

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wasn't born in this country um you see the fifth level like in god's debris he's somewhere in that neighborhood yes yes he is tony robbins doesn't seem to have any interest in it you know it would be interesting i think if tony robbins ran you'd it would be i i think he's smart not to run i think he's smart to stay doing what he does so well
oh trump slams about the media and snl you know i didn't even read them if i see a story that says trump says something about snl i don't know how much that matters to anything it's just business as usual [Music] yeah rubio didn't have any glaring weaknesses but he didn't have any glaring strengths that is correct it's sort of like when you look at tennis players

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like when you look at tennis players there are tennis players who can you know reach the top hundred by not having any flaws you know every part of their game is solid but the ones who make it into the top you know one or two or three have also a weapon so they don't have any flaws but they've got like a monster serve or a monster forehand or something and trump had that he had monster weapons but not having flaws is probably not going to get you there will i write another book like god's debris well it depends what you mean in terms of like it i don't have one planned but [Music] um
um it's hard to write a second book like that one
does it trouble you that neval agrees with you on acc um i don't know what that's about

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peter thiel should run was peter deal born in this country i don't know that he could run either [Music] um
have you noticed that nobody uh has been able to come up with a good nickname for kamala harris here's here's a uh a humor tip it's impossible to mock things that make sense you can mock things that are ridiculous and and it's easy to do that you know every every now and then you'll see a news story and everybody can mock it in their own way and it's all good because there's something about the topic that's ridiculous so it's easy to mock it but when something makes sense it just makes sense so let's say unemployment numbers improved you can't really mock that that's an unma unmockable news story employment got better nothing to say

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employment got better nothing to say about it if you look at kamala harris and you say to yourself why do none of our nicknames seem to stick why is there no particular angle of attack that seems to make any difference it's because there's nothing there she's it's a target poor environment she doesn't really have any targets anywhere so nobody's nobody's been able to land a shot early on i mean that could change but so far
[Music] so far she doesn't seem to have an obvious vulnerability that would make her easy to mock so james woods somebody is saying called her heels up harris that's a good example of how invulnerable she is because the worst thing you can say about her is that she had a boyfriend you know some years ago that's that's the worst thing that

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that's that's the worst thing that willie brown was her boyfriend and yeah he was married or whatever but that doesn't seem to have bothered willie brown so yeah there's not there's just nothing there nothing there uh why nothing about andrew yang and the reason is uh he's not in the news i look at the news quite a bit every day and
and i i don't see andrew yang being discussed and if the news won't discuss him then he can't win so he has apparently not crossed the whatever level it takes to be interesting now should he become interesting i'll start talking about him but he's not interesting yet he could get there let me ask you this do you think i could win if i ran for president i'm kind of curious about that if i ran for president let me tell you my uh what platform i would run on

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uh what platform i would run on i would run on a platform of uh trying things and following science where we can and debating in public those things that the public disagrees on so in other words if i ran for president i'd say i'm not the expert on climate change but i will make sure that there's a legitimate climate change debate that you can watch in public and i'll make sure that we'll do it as many times as we need to until most of the country is on the same side whichever side that is one way or the other i'm going to get everybody on one side of all these contentious issues now that doesn't work with something like [Music] abortion right because nobody's going to change sides on abortion for the most part just because they got more information um
um so i would be neither a republican nor a democrat although i'd have to run in one of those parties in order to have a chance so it

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parties in order to have a chance so it wouldn't matter in my case and i would say you got an idea on gun control i'm not even going to have an opinion on gun control i'll say let's let's encourage some city or some state to try it if you have an idea on gun control well try it and i will support small trials of anything that makes sense and i'll say why should i have an opinion it doesn't even make sense to listen to my opinion let's if you've got an idea let's try it we'll try it small we'll try it in a limited way where nothing much gets hurt and then we'll see and that will always be my process so i'll always be about a system to figure stuff out now if we were talking about the border for example i would have handled that completely differently i would have made sure that the public was informed up the wazoo i would have had those engineers and experts with their graphs producing things that you can look at

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producing things that you can look at with you know arrows that say this many people got through and this this many crimes happened but we put up a fence and this is how it changed um so so that's how i would run for president as a systems president not a goal president [Music] the fact that you don't vote wouldn't help you [Music] um somebody says no chance with that accent the way i say coffee i could never be president the way i pronounce coffee all right i don't think that i've added much value today so i'm going to sign off and do something else and i will talk to you later