Episode 401 Scott Adams: Proposal to End the Border Wall Impasse

Date: 2019-02-03 | Duration: 51:12

Topics

Brain damage is a known, accepted, real possibility from football Hard to enjoy watching it, knowing that…who’s playing? If our sports were invented today, would we design them the same? Jussie Smollet story, is ANYBODY believing it? Governor Northam “moonwalked” back his previous apology His wife felt the need to tell him moonwalking not appropriate He’s been in blackface so often he isn’t sure it’s him in photo? Michael Moore says AOC is now the leader of Democrat party Democrat media goes after Tulsi Gabbard President Trump can declare a national emergency now He gave GOP and DEMS multiple chances for action The GOP and DEMS have confirmed they’re worthless The country is now primed to accept the pending EO Pelosi lied and demonstrated she isn’t credible Wall cost: Both sides agree the amount of money is trivial If the cost is trivial…what diff does it make who pays? Joe Rogin / Jack Dorsey “simultaneous sip” discussion Twitter pivoted from its early customer base Periscope not originally designed for podcasts

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## Transcript

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purple pom pom pom pom pom pom hey everybody come on in here I know I'm late I'm in a different time zone for a few days but it's time for coffee with Scott Adams no matter where I am no matter where you are drop what you're doing unless it's a baby if you're holding the baby don't drop it but otherwise just drop whatever you're doing and join me grab your cup your mug your chalice your thermos grab your stein your container your glass fill it with your favorite liquid I like coffee and join me now for the simultaneous scent oh that's good I see some of you or drop it drinking the tears of your enemies instead of coffee that is an acceptable replacement it is so I came up with a plan for ending this whole border wall problem you know you

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whole border wall problem you know you got the Democrats saying walls don't work and you've got the Republicans saying walls work and here's what I propose are you ready since we know that Democrats love complicated multivariate prediction models such as for climate change why don't we create a complex multivariate model or just have science do some studies to find out if walls work so why don't we Commission some scientists to study the effectiveness of walls so for example they could run tests where you build a wall and then you have some kind of let's say an animal or yeah let's say the animal and you have that animal we run as hard as they can into the wall and then you measure how many times it works how many times does the animal get past the wall by budding is head into it now I'm not

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by budding is head into it now I'm not suggesting that the human being at the border our animals don't take me out of context I know you like to do that I'm just saying that you do animal tests before you do human trials so we should do some some animal testing with walls see if see if see if animals can get over walls first and if if walls stop animals then we can move on to the human the human trials where you build a wall and then you say hey do you want to go over this wall or maybe you'd like to take a different route so and then after you've done the studies that's not enough you need to do a complicated multivariate model that predicts the future of immigration and all of its impacts including economic and the cry and and race relations and everything else you got to put it all in your model and you should predict there for 80 years into the future because you know

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years into the future because you know there's nothing more believable than a complex multivariate model that you can't see the code that predicts something exact 80 years in the future we know we know the Democrats will believe that kind of thing so let's get busy on that let's let's turn it over to the scientists and do some studies we've got to get to the bottom of this do walls work from a scientific basis or are we all just using our anecdotal information and we don't really know if walls work so let's be the let's be the group that believes in science and study walls find that if walls actually stop people from going where they wanted to go without that wall
ah it's not getting a simultaneous sip there that was asynchronous that was the asynchronous sip and I hope you didn't mind Super Bowl prediction yes I will

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mind Super Bowl prediction yes I will now give you my Super Bowl prediction and before I give you my Super Bowl prediction there's just one piece of information I need can somebody tell me who's playing I am vaguely aware that the Patriots are the safer Super Bowl are they playing against another team is there somebody else playing who's the other team let's see how long it takes somebody in the comments to tell me who the Pats are play it seems to be the Patriots versus we don't remember which would be very predictive don't you think if you can't remember the Rams okay the Patriots versus the Rams well as you know I always like to pick winners based on whether the mascots how the mascots would do if they fought each other so here you have a patriot who would obviously be armed with a whistling kind of a long rifle probably with the musket

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of a long rifle probably with the musket and then you have the RAM it's got these big old ram horns so in a battle between a ram and a Patriots who would sort of depend how quickly the patriot could reload his musket because if if the pig if the Patriot gets off one lucky shot well I'd say the Patriot beats the RAM but a few misses of the first shot I've got a feeling the ram the ram kills the patriot while he's trying to reload his musket so it depends on accuracy now do the so do the Patriots have an accurate quarterback well turns out they do turns out they do so I'm gonna go with the Patriots don't hate me for making the obvious all right um will Gillette be any ads no

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all right um will Gillette be any ads no so I have to tell you that I've stopped paying attention to football I don't know if I'll turn on the Super Bowl tonight or not maybe if I'm bored
thank you somebody read my book gods debris I liked it set all of the big event I forgot about the bayonet yeah so maybe it'd be a more advantage to the Patriot what was I talking about Oh football so I lost interest in football and it wasn't for me it wasn't because of the protests over the emblem from the start I said the anthem protests were offensive but they were meant to be that so they were effective in the sense that they got our attention I don't think it's been effective in making anything change but you got our attention here's why I stopped watching a football it's hard to

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stopped watching a football it's hard to support something that we know at this point that we know for sure is damaging brains and apparently pretty much every professional player and you know I think even high school and college players they all have it seems to be they all have measurable measurable brain damage and I don't know how I can support that so now when I watch football that's sort of all I see I just see the brain damage so I can't I can't enjoy it as a sport anymore because it shouldn't be happening by the way I think all of our sports are completely broken can you imagine what sports would look like if we invented them today let me let me tell you how some of the sports are broken when basketball was invented did anybody contemplate that there would be people who were seven foot seven foot

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be people who were seven foot seven foot six playing basketball probably not Hey probably nobody figured there would be you know one person that would be three feet taller than the other person so first thing you do to fix basketball just say that you can only play within your height range right because we have precedent for that because we have you know women's sports and men's sports and there's a reason because the men are physically stronger and it wouldn't be a good competition if he had them on the same team we're in the same same competition but why is it fair that a five foot eight person can play basketball against the seven foot seven foot six person that doesn't seem fair so the first thing is that basketball should be limited by height you know maybe within like a four inch range you just you always have to play people at your height tennis is completely broken because of the serve have you ever tried to watch tennis lately used to be my favorite game but then the rackets kept

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favorite game but then the rackets kept getting better and better so the technology of the rackets kept improving to the point where if you have a good enough racket the racket is strong just right the other player can barely hit the ball back so if you got rid of the serve tennis could be fun again because the serve just ruins everything it makes everything boring the first serve is almost always out and it's it's boring to watch then take baseball baseball's got a problem because it's sort of a long attention span kind of a game need to do something to make baseball more interesting or shorter or more action or something going on there and then soccer how easy would it be to fix soccer the biggest problem of soccer is there's not enough ring right so all you do is make the goals bigger so soccer you should make the goals bigger and maybe get rid of offsides because that just makes everything less fun

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everything less fun do not touch baseball do not somebody says yeah I think probably baseball is held up the best of all the sports that's the one that still makes a little bit of sense then let's talk about golf the biggest problem with golf if you're a new player is that the clubs are all different lengths so even if you're really good at one club that doesn't make you good at the other Club and do you know why the clubs are different lengths you know why why if you put them put a club in the ground you know one of them would be longer than the other no good reason apparently there's no good reason there's really no compelling reason that your clubs can't all be the same length and in fact there's a famous story of somebody who had custom clubs made they were all the same length and work great so I think I probably won't get back into golf unless you can get

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get back into golf unless you can get rid of the people who are in front of you and behind you because they ruin it I hate it when they're people behind me and well a lot of the lot of the clubs are a lot of the clubs are different shape yeah there should be maybe maybe two clubs something something like a wedge it is something like a putter that's all you need I'm on vacation and I have not had enough time to watch hoaxed yet I said I was but that's on the top of my list and I'll talk about it after we watch it
so I was gonna say something I don't want to say what does everybody's prediction on this Smollett the story smaller or is it a smaller or smaller the actor who claims to have been

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the actor who claims to have been attacked by people wearing Maggie hats is anybody believing that story I would say the the credibility of that story approaches zero but that wasn't there you know we cannot say with certainty what happened in a place where we weren't there and then there were no video cameras capturing anything but I would say if I had to bet on it maybe there is a betting I doubt you could have a betting pool on this but if you had to bet on it you were definitely bet it didn't happen the the part that's weird is that they put a rope around his neck I mean none of it really makes sense it just just all doesn't make sense oh and then apparently the governor Northam somebody said he he

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governor Northam somebody said he he walked back his apology well I don't think that's exactly the way to say it I think it would be me it would be more accurate to say he mooned walked it back is anybody used that yet you feel free to use that governor north room moon walked back his apology I just before I turned this on I watched the video clip of somebody asking them to moonwalk and his wife his what his wife says inappropriate a situation the best part about it was that north rooms wife has so little she has so little respect for his judgment as she felt she needed to tell him not to move she felt she needed to tell him don't moonwalk and she knows him best so if if she

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and she knows him best so if if she thought he might moonwalk the fact the fact that his wife thought he biked you might just like yeah but get out from behind the lectern sermon this is the best thing ever and then and it gets even better because apparently he is not he's not entirely sure how many times he's been in use his he used to dress up in blackface apparently his happens somebody it's happened enough he wasn't sure if that picture was him all right now here's my opinion although I do believe it would have been inappropriate for him to moonwalk wouldn't it be fair

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for him to moonwalk wouldn't it be fair to say he's he's so toast that I kind of want to see it
personally I would like to see him moonwalk now because he might he might as well he might as well changed the conversation right you might as well at least because if he moved walks that's all we're going to be talking about okay if you could give me a video of the governor moonwalking doing a Michael Jackson tribute to think about this the first thing that would happen is the first thing you'd happen is that you would see that he's probably a fan right suppose you suppose he moved walked I'm just gonna put this out here just for fun
fun suppose he moon walked and we get that on video and of course it would be it would be the headline it would be it would be all you saw in television you know there the news channels could not stop running that if he moonwalks but here's the thing if he moonwalks really

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here's the thing if he moonwalks really well and maybe he has some other moves you know other Michael Jackson moves if he could pull off if north rim could pull off 10 seconds of credible Michael Jackson imitation and also sells to us that he was a genuine fan let's say let's say he has an old an old record of Michael Jackson let's say he produces a Thriller album from 1984 or something whatever thriller came out and would that change what you thought about that old photo because if he could actually moonwalk and he was and we could verify that he was a huge Michael Jackson fan doesn't that make you feel different about the costume now I'm not going to say it separate there was ever a good idea and I'm not gonna say that people wouldn't be offended but it would definitely chant it would change your opinion because if you're dressing I

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opinion because if you're dressing I mean think about the the entire not the entire but a big part of a big part of why people are so angry with them is that we assume his internal thoughts were as as say as bad as what we saw so in other words we're looking at the video you know looking at a picture of him dressed as apparently Michael Jackson or something and and we're thinking oh my god Big Oil racist he's making fun of Michael Jackson but if he could actually moon moon dance yeah moonwalk and he actually had some Michael Jackson moves and he had an old Thriller album just pick one and he could prove that he was a huge Michael Jackson fan it kind of looks different doesn't it doesn't it look different if he could demonstrate he was a like a super fan of Michael Jackson now I'm not

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super fan of Michael Jackson now I'm not going to say that would save his career because I don't think that could be done but he has nothing to lose at this one he has nothing to lose at this point and as far as that nickname he had the nickname he could explain the way by saying that's what other people called him and it wasn't his nickname nothing you know if he could prove he never called himself that and that it just makes his friends look like racist because that was the nickname for him now I'm not saying any of that would be good enough to save his career I'm just saying it would be hilarious and we couldn't stop watching it
assuming he was the Michael Jackson look like well I think that was the question

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like well I think that was the question wasn't it I'm not predicting any that should happen but it would be hilarious
how do you get a nickname like c oom ma n somebody is asking me unless you're a racist simple you once wore Michael Jackson costume and your friends are racist if if the people who gave him the nickname were racist that would explain it
it the the other possibility is he liked to hunt now I haven't heard anybody say this but where I grew up where I grew up if somebody used that nickname it actually wouldn't have been a racist nickname I hate to even say this because it's going to look like I'm you know I'm defending him so let me say as clearly as possible I am NOT defending North Rim

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as possible I am NOT defending North Rim I'm just giving you some context where I grew up in upstate New York shooting raccoons was a fairly common thing and we called it hunting and people use the CEO n-word to talk about raccoons so where I grew up if you had that nickname it would more likely it would more likely refer to some hunting situation or the fact that you once shot one in some famous situation or something like that and I'm not I'm not in the least suggesting that that explains Northam situation I'm just saying that if you're if you're asking yourself how else can it be explained and by the way one of the things I write about in my upcoming book loser think is that if your argument is based on you can't imagine any other explanation you

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can't imagine any other explanation you have a weak argument doesn't matter what the situation is if if if you're saying the only thing I can imagine to explain these variables is just this one thing it probably is a failure of imagination so if you you know I just gave you an example of how you could you could easily imagine that it was a hunting related nickname or it was given to him by other people and it was not a nickname he embraced so those are two explanations that probably did not occur to you and I'm not saying that they explain the situation at all I'm just saying that you have to be careful you have to be careful that you assume you know the explanation for things remember the Covington Catholic school situation what was month what what did I do wrong in interpreting that initial video as being the kids surrounding the Native American guy well what I did

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Native American guy well what I did wrong is what is that I could not imagine there was an alternative explanation now it turns out the alternative explanation is selective editing which should have been should have been right in the top of my mind but I couldn't look at that picture and imagine how that could have been selectively edited like my imagination was not big enough to incorporate any other possibility than what I was seeing was exactly what what was happening so somebody just offered a third explanation for for his nickname again not saying that this is likely but that if he was wearing a raccoon skin hat like Davy Crockett for any reason if he'd been in a play or somebody had one as a joke or something you could imagine him getting a nickname I will tell you that my college nickname was based on

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that my college nickname was based on a sweatshirt I wore once so I had a nickname for four years in college that was my primary name people didn't even use my foot regular first name they called me the letter W so for four years my college friends called me W because one day I were a sweatshirt that had a big letter W on it for the town that I went to school so could he have worn a hat one time and that could cause him a nickname for the rest of his school days yes because that's exactly what happened to me I wore one shirt one time and I got a nickname that lasted me for years and I did not give that nickname to myself it was assigned by other people as nicknames often are
before w bush you traitor who was a traitor what I'm going to talk about

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traitor what I'm going to talk about anything new today well it's funny you should ask because I'll just Emma sorry I just blocked the wrong person so the blocking on here I just blocked some innocent person who's wondering why they get blocked if you try to block them as they're moving sometimes you get the wrong person so I'll see if I can unblock that person later book title is loser think it'll be out and knocked over now somebody asked if I'm going to cover any new new topics today here's the problem there there's no new news today there's there's nothing there's nothing in the news i just checked i just checked CNN and fox news and there's literally no new news now that might be because it's the Superbowl today yeah it might be because I'll tell you what it is it might be it might be because the news is all positive for

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because the news is all positive for Trump Trump has had this spectacular week but you're not going to see that in the left and the right seems to have some you know they're revisiting some stuff too
Trump interview tonight leaking I don't know about that I do not watch the president's interview
and above all I think I saw in Fox News that Michael Moore was saying that AOC is really the leader of the Democrats I think there's some truth to that she's not the only leader there's definitely some truth to that so yesterday somebody sent me some what I would call fake video it's fake in the

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I would call fake video it's fake in the sense that it was a an edited an edited summary I guess or just selectively edited let's say clip of Nancy Pelosi and the clip was edited so that you can see all of her miss speaking so everywhere where she struggled for a word or she paused to find the next word or she had to stop and correct herself I saw it edited together so if you saw it all together it looked like she had some kind of fairly serious mental problem and it was really convincing it was also fake news because if you I'm sure if you had seen all of those mistakes you know spread them over the course of a long public spontaneous public speaking event that lasted a long time there were quite a few times where she had to you know go for a word and

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she had to you know go for a word and struggle and they wouldn't look nearly the same if you saw them in their original context spread out but when you see them all put together they they tell us they tell they tell a troubling story
they do the same thing for Trump yeah it's just a good trick all it does is put all your mistakes together am i sticking with the Schultz prediction which pert of the Schultz prediction is that he would not ultimately run for president and the answer is yes I was thinking too that if she'll run for president it will be a serious blow to starbucks coffee business because we know the democrats are not going to like Schultz and the Democrats are the party of boycotts now it could be that people are so addicted to coffee that there's nothing they can do to stop drinking it

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Atlanta spent 23 million on the footbridge for the Superbowl but it won't open because of security now I don't know about that story I'm just reading here
you think Schulz will win well winning as a third party would be an amazing thing but I don't see happy somebody says Republicans don't boycott they do but not as effectively apparently
somebody says they wish they had my brain well that would be a bloody operation and probably the transplant would not work might have to wait a few years for that so I noticed NBC taking down tulsi gabbard so there's an article an anti tell see Gabbard article them NBC News and I thought to myself isn't NBC

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News and I thought to myself isn't NBC News the one everybody says is owned by the CIA you know haven't we did we just find out that the CIA is backing Kamala Harris by the fact that NBC News just went after Tulsi Gabbard
our CPS salut says I saw it on the NBC so I still have an NBC article
RGB prediction what am what would you like me to predict are you asking me to predict or death that would not be that would not be cool Oh somebody's asking me to predict whether our Ruth Gish Ruth Bader Ginsburg is alive yes she's definitely alive the the the

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yes she's definitely alive the the the odds of a Supreme Court justice dying without the news getting out is zero yeah it's zero now I'm guessing she's not in very good shape but we kinda know he kind of knew that somebody says her taxidermist and says she's fine that's pretty funny it's cruel but it's funny
so let me ask you this let's talk about the prediction for the wall and for the emergency situation it seems to me that President Trump has set the table for an emergency declaration that would have seen extreme a month ago but now it's going to look like he's taking action because the government is just not being useful so wouldn't you say let me say

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useful so wouldn't you say let me say this I think the strongest play for the president is not to say well here's the best way to frame if he goes for the emergency declaration for the wall which i think is close to guaranteed at this point if he had tried to do an emergency declaration a few months ago it would have been just a huge uproar and it would have been it would have been a big problem politically in every other way I think the system would have taken some strain on that but now that the president has acted reasonably and he isn't he's allowed the Democrats to have their negotiations with the government open and now that they've they've clearly demonstrated that they're not they're not credible players this is a big deal because until we actually witnessed the Democrats

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we actually witnessed the Democrats trying to negotiate and not being even serious about it you could have imagined that maybe they could have so until they until they failed right in front of us it was easy to imagine well maybe if they maybe if they did have some meetings they could work this out but now you don't have to wonder because the president gave them enough rope to hang themselves he actually he actually you know baited them or they baited themselves I don't know I don't know if it was his clever plan or it just worked out this way but because he gave them room to negotiate and he let them fail spectacularly in public and he let them die on the sword of we're going to ignore the experts and the engineers which is what he did right so when when the negotiations fail and it's obvious that there's no chance that they could succeed at this point when they fail the president is going to say we talked to

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president is going to say we talked to the experts we talked to the engineers and they said unequivocally unequivocably and no doubt about it that in these specific areas you need some wall the the Democrats failed to listen to the experts fail to listen to the engineers and now because they are useless they are useless I'm going to make a decision for the American people within my authority as commander-in-chief and
at this point it's gonna go down you know it'll always good add a little hard but at this point it can the country is primed to accept it if you're a Democrat you cannot look at this situation and tell yourself the year side played it fairly you cannot look at the situation as a Democrat and say yeah the Democrats were really negotiating in good faith for this wall stuff that

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good faith for this wall stuff that never happened even their own side knows that they played it politically instead of playing it for the benefit of the country well that is no longer in question or it won't be when they finally give up with this stupid committee stuff yeah and you could always say well that's always been the case the Democrats have always been obstructionist well because of the way we got here that the closing of the government policies demand that if we open the government they could you know everybody could play nice with each other and then it didn't happen so we saw essentially Pelosi being a not a not a credible participant in the in the effort to fix things so I think the president has total clearance now to do what he needs to do
you could you can always tell when the the Democrats are are losing what is it

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the Democrats are are losing what is it what is it the Democrats say whenever it looks like they're gonna lose hard yeah when it comes to border security because at this point you can kind of already project forward you you know that the committee won't work that nothing will come out of that you know that the president's not going to close the government again because that didn't work last time and you know that he will do the emergency declaration because it's it's the only rational path that will be left to him and of course he will do it so so those things we can predict with with clarity but if if you hear the Democrats say if they start talking about he said Mexico would pay for it and you know they've lost if all they have left is the part of the campaign promise that was more really as more joke and marketing than it was serious at least in a direct way if they're arguing that the indirect way we're getting money

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the indirect way we're getting money from Mexico is not the same as a direct way well they will be technically correct but they will be dealing with trivialities that's if that's all they have left that's that's not a strong play so every time I see somebody say oh yeah but what about he said Mexico would pay for it once you've gotten to the point where everyone agrees that the dollar amounts are trivial it kind of doesn't matter who pays for it at that point does it yeah because nobody's saying 5.7 billion will break the bank no nobody is saying that the United States can't afford five point seven billion dollars nobody say that so if you've already admitted that money isn't really a problem taking that to the next level and saying okay there are two things we know for sure the amount of money is totally trivial and you said Mexico would pay for it what about Mexico paying for it

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Mexico paying for it that is the weakest attack you'll ever see so the more they're talking about Mexico not paying for it the more you should celebrate if you want to wall all right
yeah there was a story better Ram admitting that they were cheating on their enriching uranium you see that I'm not sure that that's a confirmed story but so I think I'm not going to talk about it because I don't think that's sufficiently confirmed so I did go and watch the video clip of Joe Rogan and Jack Dorsey we're talking about they're talking about this they were talking about coffee with Scott Adams and the simultaneous N and that brings up an interesting point if if you take a start-up to venture capitalists or any

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start-up to venture capitalists or any kind of people who are experienced funders and you say here's my startup and here's what I want to do if you do that the the experts will always say the same thing they'll say who is your specific customer and if you say everybody's my customer I'm marketing this to basically everybody you can't get funded so that that's one of those universal truths in startups that if you say your customer is everyone you can't get funding because they need a specific customer so they can judge whether you can go get that specific customer but look at Facebook what it what is Facebook's specific customer it's everybody right and they didn't even start out with that thought they started out trying to meet some girls in college right so they started that with a specific customer but they didn't make

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specific customer but they didn't make any difference because it ended up with their customer was everyone and then speaking of the Joe Rogan broadcast with interviewing Jack Dorsey the the history of Twitter is that it started as something completely different it was some kind of limited message service but the public decided they liked it in in some form that evolved to what you're saying now modern Twitter and so Twitter didn't have a specific customer that lasted they had a specific use case but it had nothing to do with or very little to do with what Twitter became and who is Twitter for who is who's the customer for Twitter well kind of everyone right and then on the broadcasts are talking about periscope periscope was originally you know imagined as its its original forum where you just turn it on and it's a live broadcast from wherever you are but as Jack was describing on Joe Rogan

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but as Jack was describing on Joe Rogan that people like me started using it for podcasts which was not an original it wasn't an application that was originally assumed and because people started using it for that so the way I'm using it is more like a podcast and so because people started using it like that they started adding features to satisfy that market so in other words here again periscope started with a certain application and market in mind but they listened to the audience and they moved where the audience wanted it to go same with I'm pretty sure you could just go down the list and you could find company after company that started as one thing and became something else you know who is Google's customer everyone who is I who is a Apple's customer well it's everyone who has money right because

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everyone who has money right because they their products is a little higher end than the competition well it's basically everyone so I'm trying to I'm trying to square these two things oh and let's let's take Dilbert for example
Dilbert started out as just being a comic for people who had the same sense of humor as I did which turned out to be a small audience but the audience told me hey we like it when he's doing workplace stuff so so because the audience told me I move Dilbert to a workplace comic and then it succeeded so what I observe and and by the way we've got a we've got a feature change on my interface by when hub app that's out now and when you see the future change you're going to see this effect so we're adding the feature and I'll tell you about it when we release it I think in a week or so that is completely dependent

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week or so that is completely dependent on what customers wanted and s4 and it's a completely different application in addition to the things that it already does so you're gonna see that there are two ways to get where you want to get one is to have a specific customer and really chase that customer and that's the way you can get funding more easily but once you're chasing a specific customer you end up listening to the audience and then adjusting your product in a variety of different ways until it becomes a different product and the audience tells you what that is so the wisdom of people who fund startups is almost directly opposite of how we observe the world to work and I've never quite squared those two things how they can be Oh somebody said their daughter went on there as a script doctor that's a good use so the script

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doctor that's a good use so the script doctor is somebody who looks at a script that's been written let's say for a movie or a TV show and they know how to fix it from a raw form into something that's punchy and good that would be a perfect use for the app actually
okay I'm just gonna tell you what the feature is very ready yeah should I tell you
you I wonder if my partners will get mad at me if I tell you I'm just gonna tell you we're adding a donate button so in other words in it if you sign up for the interface by when hub app and you have a profile on there you won't need to be live in other words you don't have to be available for a call and people can still donate to you so if you are a let's say a conservative artist and you don't want to be on patreon or you don't want to be on it let's say you got defunded on other platforms you'd have one more option so it would be one way

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one more option so it would be one way to make sure people could donate to you with no friction I think it would take 30 seconds or well not 36 but it might take you a full 60 seconds to add your profile to the interface by win hub app and then you just tell people to go search for your name and hit the button and they can they can donate to you now why did we add this feature and it's not that way yet so you have to wait I'll tell you what it's a maybe a week or so it's been I believe it's been tested and already submitted to the App Store's but the reason we added it is because largely people on periscope asked me for it
it so you're actually seeing you see how these platforms interact so because I'm on periscope I get lots of comments you see them going by and a quite a few of you commented here and in in other ways

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you commented here and in in other ways that people reach me a lot of people said the same thing they said hey why don't you add a way on your app that people can donate to artists who are being you know DD platformed on other sites or just want another way you know even if you not be platform you might just want another way that people can getting Tony and so we added it now if you talk to me a year from now am I going to tell you that the year for now am I going to tell you that that's the biggest use of the app maybe I don't know might be but it would be based on what the audience asked for can I be a parent expert I don't have but yes you can you can you can be a parent experts and you can set your price no Super Bowl ad for this app yeah those are pretty pricey you can hear a lot more about the

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pricey you can hear a lot more about the app in the next week or two we've got some exciting things besides that that's just one of the things happening but there's a whole bunch of really important things happening that I'll tell you about do you have stats on what different experts are charging I don't believe we know I don't think we capture that it would be easy to capture we have the raw data so we could but I don't think that's on the dashboard that we we look at our data but it's easy for you to just scroll through it you can see you can scroll through the experts you can see the prices somebody's saying will I allow Alex Jones so here's the thing we're we're an open platform like a telephone call or like a FaceTime call or any other communication tool so I'm

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or any other communication tool so I'm sure there are things people could do that would cause them to get kicked off but we probably would not kick it but anyone off for doing something on other platforms but we'll see I mean I'm sure there's yeah you never want to say never there are certainly things that could get you kicked off of any platform and I think we'd all agree on some of them
somebody coming in here with the anti-semitic stuff I could never tell when I see stuff like that I could never tell I can never tell how serious it is or how troll-like it is it's scary either way all right

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yeah I'm not gonna say who's in there out but if they're not bothering me they're probably going to be fine
would you like to see my view for those of you who can't be here
so you see that Island over there that entire island is owned by Larry Ellison Oracle founder so he bought the entire

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Oracle founder so he bought the entire island
all right back to me sorry it's disappointing you have to look at me well I think that's all I have to say today and I will keep you informed about new new events and I will talk to you all later