Episode 392 Scott Adams: Dale Celebrates Pelosi Stunning Victory in Fifth Inning

Date: 2019-01-26 | Duration: 42:29

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What border security plan would President Hillary Clinton offer? How would it compare to President Trump’s plan? President Trump’s border security concept Experts advise what works to address various challenges Build the most efficient structure possible for least cost President Trump has educated and weaponized voters Now…people CARE about solutions for the border Solutions will HAVE to be cost efficient and effective Pelosi didn’t do her job, everyone wants border security She didn’t “win”, she failed to offer solutions

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bumbum bumbum hey everybody come on in here I can't tell you when I've had more fun following the news I'm probably having more fun the last 24 hours than I had since 2016 the many of you are panicked many of you are unhappy but that's why you come here to have your frame on reality reset I've got to reset the hell out of your frame but not until we have some coffee because this is coffee with Scott Evans I'm your host Scott Adams this is a small dainty perhaps a little bit too feminine container that I like to put coffee on it's not mine I'm on the road but if you'd like to join me please fill your a copy or containing your your a thermos your jug your your stein you're jealous

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your jug your your stein you're jealous put your favorite beverage in there I like coffee raise it to your lips and join me for the simultaneous Sep
now if you're following the news today you know that the anti-trump errs are doing victory laps and victory laps I say and I thought in the interest of fairness in the interest of fairness well as he was like the Trump has been on a non-stop winning streak for three years finally the Democrats got their whim and I thought that rather than being being unkind about it unkind about what happened with Pelosi and Trump I would invite Dale the anti-trump er to celebrate with us and to give our take on it so Dale Dale could you come over

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on it so Dale Dale could you come over here and just tell ya don't just tell us just tell us how you feel today about the whole Pelosi Trump negotiations all right I'll get off camera yeah you used to come over here
best day efforts you know I did you see Pelosi kicked Trump's little orange but yeah finally you finally got the win she's small Pelosi is she small and she's old I see stuff and she kicked his butt master persuader art of the deal oh
Mexico's gonna pay for the wall what it's only the fifth inning what does that mean how long is a baseball game I

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that mean how long is a baseball game I think it's some kind of analogy or something fifth inning how long is a baseball game nine innings you're saying I should not be celebrating in the fifth inning well this is disturbing I thought it was already over I thought it was the future I thought it was three weeks from now and we already have our answer but apparently it's only the fifth inning I think I'll just wait
well thank you Dale thank you for that premature celebration now I've been watching my Twitter feed for the last 24 hours and as you could imagine it looks I swear to god it looks exactly like the day before Election Day 2016 and everybody's coming over to gloat before

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everybody's coming over to gloat before the result this is exactly what happened the day before Election Day to my Twitter feed people came in and said all Scott you know what do you say now now that you're definitely gonna lose tomorrow and and I would say maybe we should wait till tomorrow maybe we should wait till the election happens and then we should see who won and right now my if you look at CNN's home page and my Twitter feed it's full of people telling me the Pelosi one to which I say how do you win in the middle of the game is that a thing is this the kind of game you can win in the middle so if three weeks from now or you know may get extended again my guess is that three weeks is not not the magic number will probably get extended again or there'll be more threats or whatever but in X number of weeks maybe then we could decide who got what so that's the first

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decide who got what so that's the first thing is that there there's a little bit of premature celebration going on if you know what I mean now I would like to reiterate though since I have never personally asked for a big solid concrete wall 2,000 miles across the border I'm not personally being denied anything I wanted so so there's nothing being denied to me that I thought could happen expected to happen or even wanted to happen all right so I don't have any personal stake in you know the 2000 run by a wall but I tweeted yesterday something that the anti-trump are or hating and when when they looked at the tweet and I'll tell you what it wasn't a minute instead of telling me what's wrong with it they tell me that I'm stupid Baldev a cartoonist and then I know I'm on to something indeed the book that I just submitted in my first draft is about this exact thing

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my first draft is about this exact thing so what I'm gonna talk about and what everybody's getting wrong about this analysis of Pelosi and Trump is exactly well my book is about so it was sort of perfect I'll probably add a chapter on this I'm thinking about it and it goes like this to certain disciplines such as let's say economics the law business philosophy science there are certain disciplines that if you don't learn how people think within those disciplines and not just one of them but but if you haven't sampled all of them you're you're very behind in understanding the world because there are things that a lawyer the way a lawyer would look at the world is as a product of their training and the way that looks like some people are saying it froze so and here's a perfect example if you are comparing if you were

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example if you are comparing if you were comparing Trump's performance on this wall situation what is the accurate some people say that I've got some stream head a hiccup put you back okay so the party you missed was that if you don't have experience with different disciplines science economics philosophy law few others if you don't have any experience with them you're at a disadvantage and this is a perfect example so my book on this which will come out this coming October is called a loser think and here's the best example you're ever going to see of loser think if you are going to judge president Trump's performance on this wall negotiation stuff what would you compare it to because you can't you can't judge something without

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can't you can't judge something without having a comparison would you agree with this so far so the first statement is you don't know how good something is unless you've compared it to the correct thing so it's either could be better or worse that whatever you're comparing two people have made the entire wrong comparison because they do not have experience with economics and business and and literally how to compare things if you learn I have a degree in economics in MBA and one of the biggest skills you learn in those fields is how accurately to compare one plan to the most appropriate comparison so is the most appropriate comparison a contest between Pelosi and Trump it's not I'll tell you what is in a moment but the news is universally reporting that there was a contest between Pelosi and Trump and Pelosi won the contest would you

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and Pelosi won the contest would you agree that that is generally how it's being presented on both sides the left and the right are framing it that way is that the right comparison it is not it is unambiguously not the right comparison here's the right comparison this president was elected largely on border security concerns and border security it's probably at least a third of the reason that people wanted this president so they wanted stronger border security was there anybody who asked for inefficient unwise border security did anybody who supported Trump say I want border security and I'd like you do it like to do it in an efficient way that costs too much and the experts on border security do not support is there even one person except maybe Ann Coulter is

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one person except maybe Ann Coulter is there even one person who wanted him to get it done the bad way nobody right so therefore when we're talking about oh he said he would build a wall the whole the whole life that it literally nobody wanted the solution given to them that wanted it done in the smartest way what is the president done right now he's kicked it over to the experts of the engineers he shined the entire focus of the country on it like it's never been before and now for the first time the experts and the engineers are going to come up with a plan and that plan for the first time here's what's different you're gonna say to me but wait the experts and the engineers have always been there that's just part of the background noise it's you know you're always gonna have experts and engineers waiting and that's not the thing but we've never been in this situation which is that we all care what those experts

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is that we all care what those experts of engineers come up with let me ask you this do you remember when you looked at the plan from the experts and the engineers last year the plan that was you know we want to do this on this part of the border and this part of the border of this part of the border you know this would be a little wall maybe a little fence here do you remember when you looked at that plan in detail a year ago no no you don't remember that do you because you didn't the plan existed it apparently has always existed in the sense that there's a you know a plan for where where they want to put what but you've never seen it have you now let me ask you this at the end of this process in three weeks when the experts and the engineers have put together a plan working with the politicians of course when they're done with this plan do you think you'll see it yeah you will well yeah you'll see it you're gonna see it for the first time because they can't

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it for the first time because they can't not show it to you now the public the public had been totally neutered on the question the border security because the news had kept from us any information that would be useful the useful information would be here's a picture of what we want to do we're on the border here's an approximate budget here's our reason why we think these these issues work on these parts of the border you've never seen that but now because the president has focused the entire country on it he's this president is the master of changing what you think about and what you care about he has made he's made immigration the number one issue if you open up your CNN or your Fox News there's something about Roger stone that's just you know Groundhog Day another another another person gets picked up by moment but the only other news is what Trump told you it would be which is immigration now in three weeks

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which is immigration now in three weeks when they come up with a plan are you gonna look at that plan there right you're gonna look at this plan for the first time so for the first time the the public has been weaponized and what will happen if the experts say here's the plan here's the budget it's let's say it's in that range of let's say it's in the range of in that five billion dollar range or even could be less could be more are you gonna say to yourself that budget is wrong maybe not you're probably going to say well the budget looks affordable you know that's a small number of compared to the whole government so you're gonna see the plans in some level of detail you're gonna see that the experts bakit you're gonna see that the budget is affordable now let me ask you this here's the money shot are you ready do you think the plan that whatever they come up with a bite in group do you think that the border

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in group do you think that the border security plan they come up with will be
substantially better or worse than what President Hillary Clinton would have done had she been elected do you feel it yeah the correct comparison here is not Trump versus Pelosi this is not a Trump vs. Pelosi analysis it is a Trump versus closey contest in the sense that there you know they were negotiating but if you're gonna judge the president and his performance the reasonable way to do it that an economist would tell you a trained economist would tell you what I'm gonna tell you because I'm sort of a trained economist myself so I can say that with some confidence the correct comparison is what would you have gotten under a president Hillary Clinton for the border and what will you get under a

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the border and what will you get under a president Trump for the border if if you think that the border funding would have been largely similar to what it has been before under Clinton that she would have said no I you know now that I'm elected but I can't do any border security it'll make me look like a hypocrite so I'll just keep the funding you know that's sort of a maintenance level yes somebody's saying you can't no it is correct when you're doing this these comparisons even if you're doing them correctly you're always comparing two things that you can't know you're always complaining plan a that you haven't yet done to plan B there you also have not yet done so you don't really know how they're gonna turn out but that's still the the rational comparison the rational comparison is how this president does compared to another president in the same job that's the only comparison that matters if you don't see that then you

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matters if you don't see that then you don't have enough experience across domains let me ask anybody who's got a back in economics or let's say of MBA so to those of you here who have a background in economics or an MBA in the comments I'd like to see you tell the rest of the people that this is actually the accurate way to do analyze this it's the way an economist would do it it's the rational way to do it now if you say I'm gonna compare the President of the United States to Nancy Pelosi that's an apple and an orange Nancy Pelosi is not the president she's not the other person doing the job of the president why would you compare a president to a speaker you know the Speaker Pelosi that doesn't even make sense but yet it's entirely what the news is doing right now yeah you can you can see a few people confirming this in the comments talk to anybody who's an economist and ask them

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anybody who's an economist and ask them and I would expect that by tonight you're gonna see this on the news talk to anybody who's an economist or anybody who's an expert in critical thinking anybody who's who knows how to compare things somebody who does it for a living an economist does it for a living an MBA does it for a living you know they compare plans so let me let's fast forward a little bit let's fast-forward to some kind of deal comes out of this working group give me your odds on from zero to a hundred percent what are your odds that this working group will eventually who knows how long it will take three weeks three weeks or longer but eventually what are the odds that they will come up with more border funding then you're pretty sure president Hillary Clinton would have given you what are the odds so somebody just said I'm an engineer and agree hundred percent yeah engineer

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and agree hundred percent yeah engineer is another another field in which you do learn to compare alter and right so he's a zero so I have there's somebody here who thinks there's zero chance that the working group will provide more burden of border security than Hillary Clinton would have yeah most of you have the right answer it's close to a hundred percent whatever comes out of this will be more border security now you could also guarantee that it will not be a 2,000 mile wall those are the two things we know there are two things we know for sure is that there will be a substantial improvement in border security but it could be in scanning technology it could be in drones it could be in fence could be a little bit of whatever steal but there's nearly a hundred percent chance that at the end of this process you'll have substantially better you'll have substantially better border security now

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substantially better border security now here's the political question imagine poor Donald Trump having to run for re-election and and here's the best story he has for his base his base who's been disappointed about the wall here's the story he's going to have to sell to his disappointed base hey base I listen to the experts and I built you the most efficient wall that gives you the best border security for the budget and then his base says no I didn't tell you I didn't vote for you to do what is smart and what all the experts say is the most efficient way to get the job done that I want done I didn't want that I wanted a big dumb wall for 2,000 miles said no one literally know fast forward to the re-election he's got more border security and he says to his base when we when we talked to the experts they told

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when we talked to the experts they told us what to do they told us what was the smartest way to spend our money and we took their recommendation who is it who's against taking the experts recommendation how many of you learned there this process a lot about border security by the time this working group is done and we see their plan we're all going to be pretty smart about this you know we'll know what works what doesn't why you do different things in different places the best example of that is before this process started I didn't know that it made sense to have a high barrier in a in an urban area compared to a remote area I would have guessed the opposite you know before we became educated in this process I would have said you know you need a really tall fence or wall wherever there's no guards you know wherever there's no people because that's how you keep people out turns out that's opposite of what you need you know the small fence would be fine because if you've got a long

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fine because if you've got a long distance on both sides of the border you can spot people and go pick them up and also the non urban places or people where there are fewer people so it's you know just less of a need so here's the first frame that you need to take with you just reiterating it is being reported as a contest between Pelosi and Trump and on the surface level it is on the political level it is on the news level it is it's a contest between Pelosi and Trump and on that surface level Pelosi smoke gun all right so when you come to my when you come to my Twitter feed and say hahaha Pelosi just kicked his butt on the surface level I agree very much like if you're playing chess and the other in your opponent just took one of your

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your opponent just took one of your pawns if if somebody takes your pawn you lost a pawn you can't argue the facts I lost a pawn but if your strategy was to give up a pawn to get something well it's not exactly a loss is it sometimes you sacrifice a pawn to get something here's what he's sacrificed he's sacrificed are you gonna love this next part yeah whatever you do if you have some if you have a meeting to go to or something just don't go because you don't want to miss this next part what is the president's biggest problem going into re-election if you don't count the border security thing right so we've talked about the border security thing and how if he gets more than President Clinton would have gotten and it is a smart solution he'll be able to sell that to the base easily at 1 in BR but

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that to the base easily at 1 in BR but what is this other biggest problem in general yeah health care health care might be second racism I think he's doing a good job of beating back the racism part but you can argue those are in the top 3 TDS the biggest problem that the Democrats have with President Trump is wait for it you're gonna you're gonna hate you're actually gonna be angry that you had to wait for me to say this to hear it for the first time the biggest problem the president Trump had is that his power was unchecked and they who would do crazy reckless things without the normal checks and balances of the government do you see it yet Pelosi just solved one of his probably three biggest problems one of his

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three biggest problems one of his biggest problems is that the other side imagined he had too much power and that he wouldn't respect the process he wouldn't you wouldn't sort of accept you know the you know the I guess the legitimate power of the other branches of government and what just happened right before our eyes we watched the president's signature issue the border security is his signature issue we watched the government swat it back and what did what did here's the important part here's the important part what was the president's reaction what was his temperament what was his response to being literally slapped back in public on a political issue respect

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respect what was president Trump's response to losing you could say on the surface level absolutely losing the negotiation over that the government shutdown and the border security his response was respectful do you know what else's response was while you were looking in the wrong place high ground manoeuvre have you ever heard of the high ground manoeuvre well if you read my book wouldn't Biggley you have if you watch my periscopes you have the height the high ground maneuver is when you finally say something that the other team just can't argue with and in this case that thing is let's kick it over to the experts let's stop being engineers and experts ourselves because we're politicians let's kick it over the experts who can disagree with that nobody it's the high ground you all the

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nobody it's the high ground you all the other stuff is in the weeds you know all the other stuff doesn't matter it was always about getting to the high ground but after he'd softened up the entire table he had to change the room he had to change the whole room which is what he's done he's changed our focus he has changed what we're looking at he's changed what we cared about and he has wait for it wait for it weaponized the voters you weaponized us before we didn't even know what what the good solutions were for the border we were so dumb we were saying build the wall how about build the wall right what I'll bet every one of us you know not personally but most of you here have said it's got to be a big ol wall across the whole thing now don't you think now that you've learned more use weaponize you he's educated you indirectly but he's educated you all to understand what

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he's educated you all to understand what you do and do not need in different places in the border don't you look back and think oh yeah I guess that whole wall thing was kind of simplistic she's educated us he's changed her focus he's made border security the top priority just look at the news the news isn't talking about anything else except Roger stone that's it they made it the highest priority now the politicians can't slip the puck past the keeper what do you call it in hockey goalie they can't slip the ball past the keeper because now the public is watching what before if somebody had showed you a plan a year ago here's a detailed plan of what we want to do in the border would you have even read it probably not you would have just looked at the news you looked at the news and you'd said that what do they say about it ologists agree with my favorite news channel but now you're actually going to look at it yeah if they if they provide any kind of a plan that comes out of

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any kind of a plan that comes out of this group I'm actually gonna read that I'm going to read that damn thing I never would have read that before so the president is gonna go into re-election having eliminated one-third of the biggest problems he has I think you could argue that the whole racism thing and the and the health care are the two things he's going to have to battle against but the he's a big old dictator who doesn't appreciate the system has no respect for it he's at a control he's he's impulsive all gone Nancy Pelosi just accidentally fixed his biggest problem nobody reported on that at the same time he did a high grande maneuver kicking it over to the experts and when they come up with something we're going to look at it and then the the other thing is that the the correct

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the other thing is that the the correct comparison is not the surface comparison where Pelosi literally not literally but Pelosi absolutely beat Trump on the surface level the political level but if he gets substantially more border security in the smartest possible way according to the experts and it's more than you know you would have gotten under a President Clinton and it's more than you know you would get under whoever runs against him for president that's the comparison you think that this president can't sell to his base I listened to the experts and picked the best solution according to the people who know the most CNN is telling you he can't sell that to his base let me ask you do you think his base is so stupid that they would say no to the obviously most efficient use of the money you know

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most efficient use of the money you know you could say that his base has hypnotized I'm sorry let me say this another thing the anti-trump errs have hypnotized themselves into believing that Trump supporters are so stupid that they would not accept a smart way to secure the border that they actually will reject it in favor of the dumb way according to all the experts he has the world's easiest sale and he's one of the best salespeople he's in a totally advantageous situation which to most of the world looks like he just lost hard stay tuned all right so I would say ignore ignore everybody who thinks that the game is over in the fifth inning you have to wait until they come up with something watch how engaged you are as a citizen

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watch how engaged you are as a citizen in whatever the experts come up with look at what you learned and then watch how they keep comparing the Rome contest let me give you an analogy because they're so persuasive I say that sarcastically let's say you hire a plumber and you hire a plumber and the plumber comes and the plumber fails to fix whatever it is that you hired the plumber to do would you look at that situation where you hired a plumber and the plumber didn't fix what you want to fix what do you say to yourself I had a competition with my plumber and the plumber won would you say that you wouldn't would you you would say I hired somebody and they didn't do the job when President Trump the leader of the country is dealing with President or is dealing with speaker Pelosi Pelosi's job is to work with the president and to find solutions that work was Pelosi competing with the

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that work was Pelosi competing with the president because she doesn't have a president job they're not in the same level she's sort of somebody who has to do a job she's like the plumber in this analogy and did the plumber fix the pipes no she did not the proper way to look at this is that the president tried to work with Pelosi and she didn't do her job if Pelosi had done her job wait for it do you think she would have been able to get support for plans that the Democrats have been voting for for years which is exactly what's going to come out of this it will be something like more border security which Democrats have been voting for forever Pelosi managed to take something that the public wanted which was more border security and both sides gratz wanted better border security Republicans wanted it it was a universally wanted thing if you hire a plumber and everybody involved including the plumber wants a leak to be

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including the plumber wants a leak to be fixed and the plumber can't fix it what do you say I hated the plumber one the plumber the plumber is victorious because you wanted the plumber to fix something and he tried pretty hard and he wanted to fix it too but he couldn't fix it so the plumber won you wouldn't say that it would sound absurd and you would fire the plumber correct but Nancy Pelosi couldn't get her team to agree to something they've already wanted Nancy Pelosi couldn't get her own team to agree to better border security which they already wanted that's a plumber who can't fix a leak so if you're saying the plumber beat the guy who hired him you're in this weird frame that the news has provided to you and he said I think we were all in that frame so it's easy to get into it because the the business

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to get into it because the the business model of the media makes this always that the two team situation it doesn't matter how much the two teams won exactly the same thing they're still gonna make it a team thing this whole this whole Pelosi and Trump are on different teams fighting each other is an immediate invention Pelosi is not a president she's not at his level Pelosi is somebody that a president works with she's like the plumber in this situation and the plumber didn't fix the leak so you're calling the plumber who didn't fix the leak the winner she totally won she totally won by not doing her job to do something that she wanted done how do you win by not doing something you want done it's crazy it's crazy
now some of you are saying that Fox News is also reporting it as a loss keep in mind that if you're looking at the surface level the political level the

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surface level the political level the news level it's there reporting it correctly on the surface level policy totally one in the same way that your plumber wins by not fixing the pipe I mean it's a weird way to win but on that level that's a fair thing to say on the level of did we get more border security let's see let's see let's not judge it in the fifth inning so I'm kind of getting like goose bumps of excitement every time my critics come over to my Twitter feed to say Scott they say Oh Scott let's see you polish this turd let's see you turn this into a victory for for Trump now everything he does no matter how much he screws the pooch you say it's a victory let's say yeah twice listen to her pretzel to which I say well if you know how to compare things it's pretty easy it's pretty easy to

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it's pretty easy it's pretty easy to compare things if you've been trained to do it now let me ask you I want to see in the comments how many of you were surprised by the way I just framed it in other words was this new to you in it wasn't new to you two to see that the real comparison would be Trump compared to a hypothetical President Clinton was it new to you that that was the the logical way to do this was it new to you they're kicking it to the experts can't possibly do go wrong with Trump's pace because they're not going to say no to a smart solution to the problem that they have will they yeah nobody's going to disagree with the fact that it's the fifth inning we don't know how the negotiations going to turn out and nobody nobody disagrees with the fact that the environment has changed by

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fact that the environment has changed by this extended fight we've become more engaged as citizens we care we're going to look at this plan and we're going to force the you know the engineers and the experts to make sure that we have something we can look at alright here's my next advice now if you've been following my political prognostication you know that I'm the most successful predictor in all of politics if you read win big lis especially you know that now as successful as I've been in politics and I would say for the past three years of the most successful accurate predictor of events we're now going in with these these experts and the working group that's trying to figure out the border stuff it's becoming more like a committee right it's more like a meeting behind closed doors and as good as I am at politics I'm even better I tell you

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at politics I'm even better I tell you what's gonna happen behind closed doors in a meeting because that's sort of my beat right my sweet spot in life is telling you what's going to happen in a meeting and here's a little tip for you and I'm waiting to the end of the periscope to say this because the only people who are going to be watching this periscope all the way to the end are our Trump supporters right if you're if you're not a trump supporter you haven't gotten this far you've already puked into your mouth and you know you're even you bailed out so now I can tell you the stuff that other people won't wait here in that meeting whoever whoever is in charge of the graphics wins whoever can come up with the best physical picture and takes charge of hey I'll be in charge of making sure we draw the picture because at the end of it you know what and during the process they're probably going to be you know things on whiteboards and and you know handouts and stuff and they'll be literally pictures whichever person says oh I'll

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pictures whichever person says oh I'll take care of the graphics every time we make a decision in the meeting I'll put it together on on some chart so you can you can compare them whoever that person is is going to have the most influence on the outcome because you know I've taught you before that the the the visuals always win right so whoever has the most compelling visual image tends to win in a complicated situation the border thing is probably going to get really complicated once they get in the room it's going to be a whole bunch of people who wish they weren't in the room have other things to do they're busy they're going to be overwhelmed with the complexity and the numbers and the different places on the border it's just going to be this big complicated ball of stuff that the people working on the solution are all gonna be a little overwhelmed whoever a volunteer is to say you know I'll tell you what to make this easy I'll be in charge of the graphics so I'll be the one who hands out that the

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I'll be the one who hands out that the new picture that's the new version of what we talked about yesterday that person is going to determine how this comes out so if it's a trump supporting person who volunteers first that's going to be an enormous advantage toward in guiding the final outcome so if you put me in that room let me put it this way if you airdrop to me into that room and said hey Scott you haven't you don't know anything about the border but we're gonna put you on this working group the working group would end up doing pretty much what I told them to do pretty much what I told them to do because I would take control of the graphics and then I would shade them I would make sure the graphics told the story I wanted to tell a little bit better than any other story so you know that's what's gonna happen behind closed doors so watch for who

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behind closed doors so watch for who comes up with the graphics and and if you see if you start seeing pictures even ahead of the the working group you like if you see some drafts that come out of that then then you know that something interesting is happening all right that's all for now I'm gonna go do what other things and I'll talk to you later