Episode 383 Scott Adams: My Apology for Believing @CNN About the Covington Catholic Boys Fake News

Date: 2019-01-20 | Duration: 45:17

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CNN continues to pump the worst kind of dangerous fake news Covington Catholic kids vs Black Israelites and drummer CNN reversed the victims and the perpetrators The Black Israelites started it and were full-on racists Then the Black Israelites said lots of bad thing about Dems The Black Israelites were saying anti-gay things in the video The kids pushed back against the anti-gay sentiments The kids pushed back against Black Israelites racism The Black Israelites then armed themselves The drummer was looking to CAUSE trouble, not diffuse it Drummers intent was to get in the faces of the teens The kids didn’t back up or back down or misbehave President Trump’s offer yesterday was to add variables He stood fast on what he needs to secure the border, 5.7B Including other topics (variables) is to entice Dems to talk A word, “wall” is preventing a border solution Deliver good border security, what you label it doesn’t matter

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bump bump bump bump boom hey everybody let's see if there's any news this morning while you're all coming in here while you're all grabbing your cups your mugs etc there's only one story I want to talk about today well maybe I'll talk about the do the deal oh my god I'm lucky I see you then and there still miss reporting this fake news about the Covington kids Wow so let's do this allow us to enjoy the simultaneous sip I hope you have your your beverage I hope you've got your thermos your Stein your chalice your cup your mug I hope you're ready to raise it to your lips and try to be for the simultaneous up here it comes so

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simultaneous up here it comes so yesterday you know one of the big stories was about how CNN and a lot of the other mainstream media were feeling bad because they had been taken in by fake news from the BuzzFeed story apparently because Muller denied the story that was allegedly a leak and people believed Muller over BuzzFeed so BuzzFeed got a black eye so the big story was about fake news everybody was talking about oh we got fooled by fake news that same day the biggest story that wasn't about the the border the biggest story that wasn't about the border was another fake news and I totally got taken by it so I'm gonna give you an extended explanation slash apology I'll start by apologizing for everything I said on periscope about the Covington Catholic boys upon seeing new videos and seeing different angles and seeing the complete video and seeing the context

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complete video and seeing the context everything to CNN reported about this was absolutely fake news and not only was it fake news but it was the worst kind like they didn't even get the good guys and the bad guys right it was as if they're confused you know the the victim and well it wasn't it was exactly that they did actually reverse the victim and the and the perpetrators so here's what they reported and here's what I reacted to yesterday but here's what didn't happen so the following is the how it was reported which did not happen that the report was that there was there was protests there were some teens from the Covington Catholic boy school all boys of course and there were some black protesters doing something and when they started to have words the Native American man who I thought was awesome but no longer think that came between them maybe de-escalated the situation with his drum and then the you

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situation with his drum and then the you know the and maybe the and then my interpretation based on seeing it out of context is that the Catholic boys were being sort of I don't want to use the same word I use yesterday but let's just say they were kind of being jerks that as it turns out when you see the full video completely not what happened completely not what happened I just I just spent some time watching the full video and that this video was actually taken by apparently one of the black protesters now I don't know exactly what the black protesters were what their association was they had big beards and they were religious and they had Bibles and they were spouting Bible verses I think they had some kind of Israel connection but they were here's the part the CNN did not report are you ready for this if you didn't hear this part you did not hear this story and I

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part you did not hear this story and I and again I'm reiterating that this is from the video that the black Israelites is that what they're called thank you for that so if you didn't hear this now this is from the video taken by the black Israelites it's their video you know somebody with a camera and they're recording the black Israel Israelites being flat-out racist completely started everything they were calling the other guys crackers and their and the the main guy repeatedly called the young men school shooters he said I can tell by your eyes you're all school shooters you don't see black kids being school shooters it's all your white kids totally racist but then it gets better and again you did not see this reported anywhere at CNN I'm pretty sure then the black Israelites start saying bad things about Democrats and about the Clintons

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about Democrats and about the Clintons in particular so there's an extended piece where they're complaining about the racist Democrats you didn't see that let's see an nvidia that did maybe they leave that out it was an extended part where they ranted on in several occasions they ranted about racist Democrats now they were also talking about Trump supporters because the kids had hats on but believe me these these protesters were anti white and I'm not that's not an interpretation by the way so what I'm saying is not my interpretation of what they were they were overt they were overtly anti white and and and said so in many ways during the the event so there's no ambiguity about that they were they were flat-out racist and they weren't trying to hide it that was in fact their message their message was racist but it gets better are you ready for this it gets better they were also anti-gay and they were

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they were also anti-gay and they were calling calling they used anti-gay slurs they used anti gay extended extended insults not just somebody yelled something but it was part of their core message was anti-gay and I'm not talking about like I heard like some little snippet of something I'm not saying one person yelled something I'm saying that the main guy supported by the rest of them who was doing most of the talking for the black Israelites was overtly and it was part of their core message that being gay was wrong and bad etc now the moment that the the black Israelite said the anti-gay stuff the reaction of the Catholic school boys was in unison oh basically they were pushing they were pushing it back against an anti-gay sentiment did you hear that in the reporting did you hear

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hear that in the reporting did you hear that the the Covington Catholic boys spontaneously and unanimously pushed back against an anti-gay statement in public completely they were offended there were like whoa you know too far dude right I made up that statement but that's basically what you saw then there was the and and and then you saw the they did a cheer and stuff but the the boys were mostly just having fun and they were a respectful pretty far distance around the black Israelites who continued their patter their their racist patter and you heard actually you actually heard one of the boys say to the black Israelites that the black Israel were being racist actually saying they were being racist because they were being racist and again that's not an interpretation they were saying loudly racist things they were saying crackers and white people and white people are bad at cetera it was overt you didn't

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bad at cetera it was overt you didn't see any of that in CNN the there was no point in the extended video and remember the video is taken from the point of view of the black Israelites it's their video there was nothing that looked dangerous or threatening even though there were a lot of them they were all smiling they were sort of engaged in the free speech they were listening they didn't look angry they didn't look belligerent there was not I didn't see one not even one example of a kid who crossed the line looked like he was going to try to do something and of course in trouble nothing they were all well behaved they were just you know sort of into the moment and into the free-speech and into the the fact that everybody was there and newer cameras and stuff so they were into it but none of it looked bad or dangerous right so that so part of what CNN reported was that there might have been you know maybe they were getting into it I will tell you that the black Israelites armed

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tell you that the black Israelites armed themselves they actually got weapons and we're trying to cause trouble that look like it looked like they were trying to invite or cause a physical altercation or at least they were ready for it the but the the the school boys apparently had nothing like that in mind if you just base it on what they were doing you know not their inner thoughts here's the next thing that was misreported so you probably saw a million times the video of a sea of red megawhatts sort of you know being at a stalemate with the Native American with the drum right but did you know that there were very few Maggi hats in that entire crowd there happened to be a number of them in that very limited scene but if you see the whole crowd you only see a sprinkling of a few red hats maybe 10% so did you know that only 10% of a very large crowd had those red hats

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of a very large crowd had those red hats you didn't know that did you you probably thought they all had those hats on totally fake news then what was the role of the date of American the Native American as CNN reported it sort of came between the two groups to maybe you know defuse it and and stop trouble definitely that didn't happen he did come between them but he was just sort of doing his own thing the guy with the drum was actually causing trouble he was not looking to stop it he was very he was very obviously looking to cause trouble so the Native American old guy we do not give him any credit anymore he was a troublemaker and he probably he looked like he was escalating the situation not I heard the escalating so I would say we cannot be happy about him all right he did something that could have been dangerous by going right up to him now

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dangerous by going right up to him now it was all so obvious and I think this was reported by one of the one of the kids who was there who said that the the school kids didn't quite know what the Native American guy was up to because it was sort of a random thing that happened like suddenly somebody a Native American garb walks up to you beat in the drum and at first it's obvious that they thought there was all part of the fun and the yeah as he's beating the drum they were chanting and stuff but it wasn't really against them you know wasn't anti a Native American or anything they were just sort of dancing around because he was dancing cramped so they were having fun but not quite knowing even why he was there or what he was doing now he was trying the drummer was trying to get in the faces and he was the what the drummer is the one who approached he wasn't the one who was surrounded he would he was the the active one he went up to the crowd and got in the faces of the teens now here's the part that really sold the fake news the teens did not back up in fact I

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the teens did not back up in fact I think one of them you know was even stepped forward and made it clear to the guy with the drum that they just weren't going to be intimidated and they weren't even bothered by it and and so if you see it if you see that clip now now that I've given you give the context that the kids who said no bad things that I heard and and I heard a lot of video and I hear it I didn't hear any chanting I didn't hear any bad stuff I didn't hear anybody say build the wall I didn't hear any of that but I did hear the black Israelite racists and anti the homophobes the anti-gay black activists said lots of things that were just horrible that you would never see on CNN so it looked like through the entire event that the kids as a group were well behaved they avoided trouble they were against racism and said so and they

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were against racism and said so and they were very against the anti-gay sentiment coming from the black protestors the black Israelite protestors and said so but respectfully they they didn't come toward them they didn't try to cause trouble they had smiles on their face they were not they did not have threatening demeanors whatsoever whatsoever so and the here's the way CNN is still reporting it this morning this is their their page teens and make America great again hats 22 Native American elder at the Lincoln Memorial absolutely what didn't happen that that Native American elder got in their faces and they simply didn't walk away that's it they they they were literally smiling they didn't cause trouble they didn't escalate they simply just didn't walk away that is not a problem indeed if you

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away that is not a problem indeed if you have this many boys I'm gonna go full 180 on you all right this is this is this is this is the most complete apology you're ever gonna see from anybody I could not have been more wrong about this group of kids because this group of kids kept their composure stayed on the right side of every issue avoided trouble and never lost their smiles I'm gonna I'm gonna say I'm you know congratulations to the school that that raised these kids their parents apparently they did a good job these were pretty good kids now I still think it was a mistake for them to wear their magda hats in public because you know that's going to cause trouble and it probably did so I think it was a mistake to wear the hats in public when it could have caused some trouble and it's lucky that there were so many of the so many of them because I think that you reduced

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of them because I think that you reduced the chance a buddy was going to take a run at him because just so many of them so that was a mistake and you know I'm not gonna gloss over that in terms of the safety of the kids forget about forget about free speech forget about you know those things those are all good but you're talking about minors and when a minor is going into public and you're the parent you don't really send them out you know you try to stop them if they're going out into a situation that's unambiguously dangerous so I think maybe somebody should stop them from wearing the hats but on the other hand but on the other hand free speech right could a school tell a kid not to have a political message on their clothing if the political message is a mainstream message Republican versus Democrat it's a mainstream message and it was a public place where people go to express their politics so if there was one place it

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politics so if there was one place it should be okay to wear a hat for any political person who's a legitimate you know leader in the country that should have been the place so I'm not going to say that in you know that this particular situation is as bad as somewhere else they might have worn the Hat you can imagine much worse places so still I think it may may have contributed so that is my complete apology to the Covington Catholic school if the administrators are watching any of this in my opinion you should Pat yourselves on the back it looks like you did a good job raising some kids and the black Israelite racists and homophobes who will never be mentioned by CNN apparently were horrible people and we should keep that in mind and the Native American was a troublemaker and he could have caused a lot of a lot of danger so

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have caused a lot of a lot of danger so luckily the Covington Catholic school boys did not take the bait and did not step up to the trouble that both of those entities were trying to create alright yes of course miners have the right of full free speech but adults have a responsibility to keep them safe until they're 18 and they can make their own terrible decisions why should they not wear a maganet i don't know how more clearly I can say this it's completely their right this was a place where people were doing free speech stuff so if there's one place you should be able to wear it it would be there but it is unambiguously dangerous so as long as you know what you're getting it's a free country and if what if what you're getting is somebody might kick your ass

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somebody might kick your ass just know what the trade-off is mrs. pence needs to be apologized to I don't know what that's about so we'll see you then retract and from the hole no see you then will not retract that but up but I'm pretty sure that Fox News is going to be dancing all around on this today do you imagine how happy the people in fact that fox news are today so first of all you know BuzzFeed fools everybody with his fake news they're still stinging from being caught in the with their hand than the fake news cookie jar and then they follow it up with just a horrible fake news I mean this is fake news that actually damages the lives of children think about this CNN and you know they actually fooled me into being one of their winged monkeys and you know doing their evil bidding for them yesterday which is what I'm apologizing for today but they actually may have

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for today but they actually may have ruined the lives of some of these kids because they'll become well-known for this they'll probably get published some of them they might even get expelled think about that some of those kids might get expelled for doing nothing but going to a public place and smiling basically all right so I deleted my parents go from yesterday which is a shame because I like the rest of it I just didn't want to keep that up there because it was inappropriate given the new context but what was I talking about yesterday so let's talk about the president's offer I'll just hit that again for those of you didn't see it so the president shook the box and added some variables to his border often offer I think it puts the Democrats on the defensive because now it's clear that one of them is trying to get something done and has put enough

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get something done and has put enough variables on the table that there's something to talk about when the Democrats say that's a non-starter it's harder for them to say that if they had said the wall is a non-starter and that's the only issue they had a strong case a lot of people don't like a wall but once you throw in daca once once you say that you're open to making a larger deal that also opens it up for the Democrats if the Democrats wanted a larger deal that would help in a variety of ways for dreamers and daca and all that the door is now open the president opened the door for them to negotiate for things they want which Republicans might actually be okay with you know in a compromised situation so at this point if you were anybody who's let's say has a strong interest in this whether you're an undocumented immigrant or whatever you have to see that the Democrats are the ones not negotiating

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Democrats are the ones not negotiating now they're the ones that are essentially the keeping the government closed right now now this is again is just a battle of impressions right it's not about truth in any sense it's about the the public relations battle but I think the president went from a weak position of hey give me a wall and the Democrats just saying no those immoral walls we don't want that he has now put them on the defensive by broadening the conversation to other areas of immigration they can - this would be the time to do it it's basically an invitation somebody says it's a fake offer that's what all fit first offers are all first offers are fake offers so saying it's a fake offer is just saying it's the first offer you know you don't expect anybody to take the first deal you do expect that now that you've opened the the field that the other side knows what you know that they have the same right to add stuff in

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they have the same right to add stuff in there and see if they can get something done so I think he takes the advantage with this and the sow is a good move and as I said yesterday his his naturalization ceremony he did before his speech was politically in persuasion wise brilliant because either four or five of the people that he swore in to become citizens in the United States were people of color and was one or two a woman I can't remember but the the optics of it and his obvious what seemed to be a genuine affection and respect for these people that he swore in to become citizens and said welcome to the team essentially look genuine now who knows what anybody's thinking in their private thoughts but it looked in Ewan you know front as an observer it seemed very legitimate and that was a great

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very legitimate and that was a great context for talking about the border because it it tries to take off the table at least a little bit the idea that it's for racist purposes and he's trying to reframe it as it's about the law it's about having a process at cetera and that really reinforced it pretty well naturally the Democrats had prejudged his speech to be a non-starter which reveals them to be the non legitimate players in this drama the president has showed that he is willing to negotiate they've shown that they're not willing to negotiate no matter what and that gives him the advantage now I had said yesterday he shouldn't negotiate against himself which is just make a better offer so if he had said well I was first asking for a 5.7 billion and you said no but how about 4 billion that would be a negotiating mistake because you're just negotiating against yourself the other side hasn't even made an offer yet he

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side hasn't even made an offer yet he has instead now by adding variables and kind of shaking the box he's got what you might call a new first offer the 5.7 billion stayed the same as it should at this stage of the negotiations and he's added other variables which he's not giving up too much because the things he's adding are the things that you probably would have been ok with in any kind of a larger deal so I think he takes the advantage now and we'll see if the public and the media reports it that way but that's the way it feels that he has now the public relations advantage now one thing that still is problematic and maybe always will be is that when the president describes the variety of border solutions which he explicitly says might be a little bit of wall here you know in terms of the steel slats but lots of places will not be you know specifically a wall it could be some fence could be some waters could be some

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fence could be some waters could be some mountains or whatever and but but he says that which is what everybody believes to be true it'll be different solutions across the border and then he then he labels that the wall now he's trying to have it both ways he's trying to have good border security in a variety of ways but also at the end of it is clear he's setting it up to still be able to say but I told you I'd get a wall and I got a wall even if some of it is is wire fence and sensors and stuff I feel that that probably worked against him so I'm not sure I would have done that I think his better play at this point would just be say to say explicitly let's just not call it a wall anymore let's just stop using the word the strongest thing he could do at this point is to say I'll tell you what I you know from now until the time we get something done I'm just not even gonna use the word anymore because you seem to

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use the word anymore because you seem to be objecting to the word here would be an interesting way to frame it for the president to say it seems that your problem is not about the politics anymore oh I'm sorry it's not about that solution anymore you've moved from the solution and and you've become obsessed with the the word now they can be obsessed with that word because he is as long as he's still obsessed with his word it's got to be called the wall even if it's not technically a wall like as long as he's stuck in that word that they can be too if and I don't know that this is likely but if he were to put a self-imposed moratorium and I think he'd have to actually say it that he's just not going to use the word and because the word itself is becoming the problem we're not even talking about budget anymore we're not talking about what's the best engineering solution we're not even talking about that anymore we're literally down to a word 800,000

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we're literally down to a word 800,000 Americans are not getting a paycheck today because of a word and I would say the president has to take that on himself right I'm not gonna say it's blame or not blame but I think responsibility wise he has to recognize that a complicated a very complicated situation has boiled down to literally a word and he's the only one who can change that situation nobody else has the power to take the power out of that word the president has paste and lead paste and lead his side for so long that he now has the freedom to deactivate that word he's the only one who can do it
it he built it right he's the one who created a like a nuclear bomb of a word the word wall it's sort of the if you had to if you had to pick one word that become like a nuclear weapon it's the

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become like a nuclear weapon it's the word wall only the president can defuse it the other side doesn't have the power they don't have the skill they don't have the power that it's not really even their responsibility they don't have the ability to deactivate the bomb only the president and the other side is looking at this bomb at least psychologically it's a bomb in their head and they're saying we can't even deactivate that if we tried and it's in the way only one person can deactivate it it's the person who built it it would be President Trump now would he ever deactivate the bomb he built the you could argue that's the bomb that got him elected right build the wall was a pretty big part of the you know the appeal of his candidacy but he has taken us from an uneducated point here's a really important point in it right when all of us started this conversation about the border and build the wall how many of you knew much about

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the wall how many of you knew much about the border some of you right maybe 2% of us actually knew something about the border now you know two three years of going by how much do all of us know about the border situation now it's a lot right you know you know for example that the cartels stopped using tunnels did you know that the cartels don't use tunnels they used to but we got better at stopping the tunnels and they're kind of expensive to build so they mostly use you know fishing ships and cars going through the borders and stuff we've learned a lot about the actual physical geography of the border we've learned about Israel's wall we know more about it we've learned about using sensors we've developed technologies for drones so we were we were way over here as a public about understanding the border when we were

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understanding the border when we were all uneducated about the border keeping us simple was actually probably a good thing to do because if you know if people don't understand the complexity you simplify and you say we need a wall so perfectly good persuasion given how much we do but the president whether intentionally or accidentally part of the the side effect of the trump presidency is that we're becoming educated on things we never knew we even needed to know about now we all understand at the border situation and I would I would say that a hundred percent of Trump supporters have now been educated to the point that maybe a wall like structure makes sense in a place like El Paso where there's a population on both sides to the wall but it probably doesn't make sense says everyone literally everyone agrees on this it doesn't make sense in some hard to get across area like a mountain or a

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to get across area like a mountain or a river or something so now that weirdly the public has all on one side did you ever think that would happen this is the weirdest situation the public started being completely on other sides about the wall and except for a few you know open border fringe types if you maybe people didn't keep up with the the education we all got but mostly at least 80% of both sides have met in the middle already the public has already negotiated the border security the public is finished am I wrong I think your degree right the public on both sides have have already met in the middle we've already read this you know we don't know if three billion or five billion right number that's for the experts so we don't have an opinion on that right I don't think that there's anybody who's just a citizen a voter who says oh I think it's three point five

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says oh I think it's three point five billion five point seven is way too much we don't know we would rely I think all of us both sides would rely on the experts to say what is that right number it's not so big that you know we need to get involved right we don't agree on the budget I'm sorry we don't disagree on the budget and we also don't disagree actually tunnels are rare now according to the the the trial of El Chapo so the El Chapo trial taught us something that we didn't know as voters we didn't know that the tunnel the tunnel situation went from a problem to not much of a problem that's something we learned recently it's not as much of a problem and we also have better tunnel detection technologies which is why it why the the cartels stopped using it as much yeah there was I'm not saying it'll ever go to zero but it's it's a bad economic choice and but

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it's it's a bad economic choice and but anyway listen let's stop talking about tunnels okay I don't want to have to explain the concept of friction again people will go where it's easiest to go if you make tunnels hard there will be fewer of them but there will never be zero if you're arguing that we should have zero people coming across the border then you're not part of the productive conversation all you can do is slow them down so that it's easier to control it it's all about slowing down that's all the border can do a border with the tunnel still works if you don't understand that let me say as clearly as possible for the people who seem still confused a solid border this that has people tunneling under it is completely working that is a successful border a wall with a tunnel is a successful border because if a lot of people use the tunnel would be easy to detect probably the cartels

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be easy to detect probably the cartels don't want to have a bunch of people coming through their tunnel because there are all witnesses what kind of crime syndicate builds a you know a ten million dollar tunnel because it's probably pretty hard to build those tunnels or they're fairly sophisticated what kind of cartel wants to spend all their money building a tunnel and then put a bunch of immigrants through it every one of them becoming a witness to where the tunnel think of your economics that would be bad economics if you're the cartel you would only use the tongue for your drugs and you would only let the people who really you know just a few people you trust who are part of the cartel should be the only ones who'd know where that tunnel is because it would be bad economics to let you even one immigrant into a tunnel because he gets out the other side and he's free in the country and he knows where your damn tunnel is that would be the dumbest thing in the world you would never let an immigrant use a cartel tunnel you get that right the the pure economics and risk

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the the pure economics and risk management which we know the cartels are good at they're good at risk management that's what they do for a living right they're not gonna let average people go through their tunnel and then come out the other side as witnesses hey it was a good good tunnel you know look tunnel over there that's not going to happen so we know border security works anyway the public is met in the middle the public already knows that the engineers should decide where you put what they don't care about the amount of the budget both Democrats and Republicans agree that you need some kind of you know engineered solution and that we might have to do a little trial in there to get there it's only the politicians who are who are on who are at odds only the politicians and there are probably only at odds at this point because of one word that the president is holding on to the word wall I submit to you that even Ann Coulter doesn't care about the word I know

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doesn't care about the word I know that's a big claim and Ann Coulter is the the number one anti-immigration voice probably on the right and more extreme than the president by far and I can't I can't read her mind so I'm not gonna you know I'm not gonna say I know her inner thoughts but just to make my point I doubt she cares that it's a physical you know big concrete structure the entire length of the border I doubt that in a private moment she would say yes yes has to be the I don't think so I think she would like everyone else would just want the best engineered solution for the best cost I think everybody would agree on that so the president having now pasted his public to trust him that he is trying to get an effective order situation they do trust him when you say well let me ask you that in my opinion Trump's supporter trusts him that if he were to change it

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trusts him that if he were to change it from a concrete wall to a steel wall to his sensors or some smart solution there his I believe that the people he's been pacing and and leading I think they would say okay just do what makes sense there's nobody on the Republican side who is going to override an engineer's decision it's just not gonna happen I mean some people will disagree with anything but but the the larger group of Republicans if the president came out and said look here's what it looks like I talked to the engineers and they say put this here this year this year and most of it is not a wall let's say it came from the president what would his supporters say about that would they say hey we're not engineers but we think the engineers got it wrong I don't think so I don't think anybody does that I think they say oh you you want good border security we know that like nobody doubts President Trump on the single question

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President Trump on the single question do you want good border security if he can deliver it in some form the engineer say yeah that makes sense that's a that's a good engineering solution his side's on it so we're down to one word we'll get rid of the racist goodbye racist Trump can only get reelected if he refuses all amnesty etc I doubt it you so somebody made a I guess I call it a prediction that a prediction that if the president granted any kind of amnesty that he could not get reelected I don't think that's necessarily the case I think that he would lose some people and gain others because the wall was such a divisive divisive thing that if you take that off the table I think some

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that off the table I think some Democrats might take a second look at him while at the same time you would lose some hard core for folks on the right now if you're a Democrat and you're let's say you're a Democrat and you you're you're kind of liking some of the things Trump is doing let's say you're liking that he wants to get out of Wars you're liking the economy is going well you're liking unemployment your liking prison reform so let's say you you know you can't you you feel like you can't join the Magga team so to speak because you're sort of a Democrat but you're liking some of the things he's doing the thing you don't like is the racist story that's been you know chind up by the media and and your side bought into if that's the part you don't like about him and I would argue that's the primary thing that keeps people from wanting to change size in this case the fact that he would grant some kind of

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fact that he would grant some kind of let's say let's say he he was in favor of some kind of a good solution for the people who are already here let's say he was a little more flexible about that I think that just works against the racist narrative and so he might attract as many people is he lost it's hard to know the the given to take for that how is Trump racist well I'm not making that claim I'm saying that the the mainstream media has painted that narrative by the way what what happens to them you know if if you're a if you're a Democrat weren't anti Trump of any kind and you think he's a big ol racist and you watch the naturalization ceremony if you did you know if you watch that that which is the most unambiguously non-racist thing anybody could do you know if you were a real

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could do you know if you were a real racist you just wouldn't plan that you just wouldn't have that ceremony you know because nobody nobody nobody was talking about him having a naturalization ceremony of of people of color in the Oval Office for the first time in in least memory that we can figure out nobody told him he had to do that so so somebody say most racists to hide their racism now let's follow your point a racist who's hiding their racism they just don't bring up the topic right yeah or if they do they'll they'll give the answer to the topic it's very unusual for an actual racist and fact check beyond this right I'm going to say something I've never said before so you know maybe it won't go down well but an actual racist doesn't look for places to promote the people he's racist against

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promote the people he's racist against when he doesn't need to in other words this naturalization ceremony was his own idea or his own team and he bought into it so it's very rare to the point of I would say you'll never see it that an actual racist let's say David Duke do you think David Duke will ever do some kind of a public event that is you know in favor of brown people - baby hide his racism no no do you think that any actual racist ever in the history of the world will will go out of their way to hold an event to praise and honor the people that they actually hate when they don't need to nobody asks them to do it it's just their own idea probably never probably not one time in the history of the world does that ever happen so when you're watching the president initiate a respectful honorable you know clear message of

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honorable you know clear message of inclusivity and patriotism when you see them do that he didn't need to do any of that you can't really do that stuff well you can but you just wouldn't you simply wouldn't do that if in your heart you didn't like these people you just wouldn't do it but fact check me on that does that statement sound unreasonable Hitler was praising Einstein there is no situation where a Hitler Hitler analogy doesn't work when he'll are praised Einstein I don't know I just can't take seriously any any killer analogies

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alright that's enough for today I think I think we've said enough let's see how CNN treats this Covington Catholic boys school thing today and I'll talk to you later