Episode 377 Scott Adams: How CNN Creates Bad News so They Can Report it

Date: 2019-01-17 | Duration: 52:44

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If the news was reported fairly, how would things be different? CNN is creating bad news…and then reporting it Examples of CNN shading, creating problems and news What was the gender mix of the Gillette meeting for their ad? The ad is sexist, it condemns an entire group (men) Was there intention to fake climate science? Not likely The force field that protects the earth

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Joan always the first one and Irv Chris everybody come on in starting a couple minutes early today because you want to get a jump on the jump on the world yes you do jump jump jump and I think I know why you're here you came for coffee was Scott Adams that's me this is coffee raise your mug your glass your Stein your chalice if you will fill it with your favorite liquid I like coffee and join me for the simultaneous
sip ah well if you're wondering why my sound sound quality is better today than it was it's because I have several of these little clipon mics three of them are the wrong kind and one of them is the right kind uh and I had them backwards apparently so the the sound you were getting was

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so the the sound you were getting was just from the device not from the microphone uh oh Eric Eric Weinstein yeah let's talk about that so Eric Weinstein asked uh so if you don't know Eric he's a well-known um say intellectual has I think he coined the
the term uh intellectual dark whatever whatever that term is so he's associated with the uh well I don't I don't want to say what he's associated with he's a smart guy who talks about a lot of stuff now he asked in Twitter um he was the intellectual dark web yes and he he asked on Twitter if it was true that some people don't believe there such a thing as an open borders opinion and I raised my hand on Twitter and said yes I do not believe that there's that

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yes I do not believe that there's that people really want open borders now um he he responded with a number of links to articles showing that people were asking for open borders very very directly and very specifically yeah somebody's saying you're wrong so the articles that uh he linked to showed uh real real people saying that they absolutely want open borders but do they really so here here's the part where we disagree so I I had to concede the point which is that there there there do exist people who are calling for open borders but they're not real all right so I'm going to I'll concede to Eric the point that there are people who present themselves as open border Advocates and if you asked them they'd probably say yes I'm an open border Advocate and if you said what does that mean they would see it they would say something like anybody can go wherever they want in the

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anybody can go wherever they want in the United States um I guess that would apply to other places but if you want to come in and get a job do whatever you want I don't think that's true here's why cuz if you combine yeah somebody's saying mind reader that's that's exactly the right thing to say but let me make my case and then you you decide now keep in mind I'm not saying I'm reading their mind I'm saying I don't believe them because there's an incompleteness to their alleged opinion and when somebody that smart gives you an incomplete opinion you have to ask yourself well you know where's the rest of it and what's that mean and the incomplete opinion is this does anybody want open borders while we still have what some would call a welfare state do we want open borders where uh all you have to do is come over and get some free stuff probably not I think you

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some free stuff probably not I think you would have to in order to have open borders you would have to probably get rid of or at least equalize whatever the government's generosity is to its people for people on both sides otherwise you get people coming for free stuff so if people come for free stuff I'm not sure that the open borders people have that in mind they need they may need more of a let's say a bigger change secondly does it look to you that Europe is benefiting from open borders so let me let me just ask that question so the closest you have open borders would be uh
uh Europe and am I am I wrong that they have a big immigration problem or would the open borders people say no no it's the way they're doing it that's the problem if you just let everybody do what they wanted everything would be fine here's the problem wouldn't open borders get you

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borders get you to
to Sharia in a lot of places that didn't expect that to come you know wouldn't yeah at what point do people get to vote you know where where where's the where's the limit what is open would the people coming in be citizens Etc now the argument for open borders as I understand it and I'll try to I'll try to present their argument without without you know shading it with bias the argument is that wherever you have a free flow of Labor Things become better on average for everyone because if there's an open job and there's somebody who wants it boom it's filled so that you have more economic efficiency if people can cross the border any way they want that part seems reasonable that wherever you take away friction you get a better result but here's the thing who's the better result

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result for what could you sell to the United States the following proposition could you sell to the citizens of the United States this proposition well things will be worse on aage for many of you in the United States but it will be so much better for the immigrants who come in that the average well-being of the world will go up who buys that who who buys that package that says yes I'll take I'll take the decision that's bad for me but on average it'll be good now I I sometimes make that decision but I'm rich right I I can afford that it's things are not so good for me but it's better for the world there are lots of times I can get on board with that but if you're middle class or you're lower you know you're struggling let's say would you accept the proposition that the average is better

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proposition that the average is better even though you'll be worse off or you'll have to compete harder or anything else so here's here's my bottom line I believe if I took any open borders Advocate the people who say they're open borders and got them them in a room with me and nobody else was watching and I had 45 minutes to talk to them that the end at the end of it they would say yeah I realize there's no way to get there that's what I believe so if somebody has a plan but they also know there's no way to get there could you say that they have a real opinion I would call it no right so when you tell me there are open borders Advocates I say I'm not so sure there are but then you show me that they're saying in their own words yes open borders it's exactly what we want I say I read the story and I believe they're saying that but you put me in a room with them for 45 minutes with no

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room with them for 45 minutes with no Witnesses they're going to say yeah there's no way to get there so it so what does it mean to says that somebody's in favor of a plan that they know can't work so you you're correct that there's some you know assumptions going on about what other people are thinking but until I see somebody describe a full picture and and they describe the you know who loses who wins and they still think it's okay then I'm going to be skeptical so I'm still skeptic but I will I will ConEd Eric's point that people are saying it um let's talk about CNN hold on a
um about 15 years ago or whatever it was I wrote a book called The dilbur of future in which I made a bunch of uh predictions one of my predictions was that the media would stop would start killing famous

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would stop would start killing famous people to create news because there's nothing you know there's no better news in terms of you know what they like to cover than a dead famous person now I'm not sure that's quite happened yet but I would argue that almost every political story you see is caused by CNN now I'm going to say CNN as sort of my proxy for you know people in that side of the political Spectrum so it's MSNBC it's the New York Times it's the Washington Post Etc so and let me let me just give you some examples of things that uh CNN created so that they could report on it CNN and their cohorts um I'm seeing a story that uh Chris Cuomo was talking about uh how terrible it was that President Trump is quote has silence on Steve King's recent

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quote has silence on Steve King's recent controversial marks um where it's here's the here's the way it's phrased and this is by the way this is on Fox news site this is on Fox news but they're reporting about what CNN is saying and they're saying uh that when Steve King asked according to them how terms like white nationalism and white supremacy became offensive do you know what's wrong with that story it never happened literally that didn't happen what happened was Steve King had a sort of a complicated sentence in which he was first talking and making a point about white nationalism and white supremacy and then as he talked he talked about western civilization and then about Western Civilization he said how did western civilization become a bad
bad thing the CNN and their and their like decided that they would they would uh and by the way Steve King clarified it

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and by the way Steve King clarified it and showed the context and it's quite obvious that that he was talking about the uh West W civilization I mean it's very obvious and and to imagine that a a representative with this much experience went on television and said hey what's wrong with white supremacy don't don't you know that didn't happen if somebody came up to you and said hey a a sitting Senator just came out and said uh you know white supremacy that's fine I'm all for it wouldn't you know without any other checking wouldn't you know that didn't happen probably 60% of the world believes that happened and and I want to be very careful I'm not defending anything else that Steve King has ever said or done I I don't have an opinion about anything else he's done but in this case they have created fake news and they've actually sold it so it looks

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and they've actually sold it so it looks like even Fox News is accepting that this guy actually got on television and said what's wrong with white supremacy I guarantee you that never happened something like that that sounded confusing happened but he definitely never did that right so it's exactly like Charlottesville where the president talked about people who are good people on both sides of the statue question and then the CNN and their their their folks said aha I think he just said that neo-nazis are fine people and they've been reporting that as fact for a long time now what's one of the biggest problems in the country one of the biggest problems in the country is race relations wouldn't you say and especially how people feel about their president did the president cause that or did CNN cause that problem I think the the answer is obvious if CNN had reported any of these stories correctly black people would say oh look

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correctly black people would say oh look we got some prison reform black unemployment's looking great oh he said something confusing about Charlottesville okay he clarified that I'm not going to worry about that cuz obviously that was just a something he needed to clarify um and you know he's he's looking at trying to help the inner cities hasn't done enough but he's going after fentanyl he's going after drugs yeah we like this guy so I'd say the biggest problem in the country race relations entirely caused by the way it's reported not about the facts because the facts don't support this the facts are largely made up now let's take uh the reporting about whose fault the shutdown is you you see CNN reporting that uh it's Trump's fault that there's a shutdown well in a negotiation where both sides want something and and the prize is that they get to open the

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prize is that they get to open the government if they give in how could you possibly legitimately intellectually say that only one side is at fault when absolutely both sides have to be you know intransigent it is completely a violation of every logical everything to imagine it's only one side's fault and the same would be if you said it's it's just uh Chuck and nany's fault it would be the same thing now ask yourself why is it that Chuck and
and Nancy uh I'll be more respectful I'll say uh Senator or I'm sorry why is it that Pelosi and Schumer um can't give in tell me why the the Democrats can't agree to something that they want because they want they want some form of border control Etc so they're literally resisting something they want and have voted for in the past

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they want and have voted for in the past why it's not because of trump it's because of the way the news carries it the news has broken us into teams and solidify that frame so as long as the news says oh ho ho if you if you cave on this you're giving in the evil the evil racist president and you're you're making the world a worst place as long as CNN paints it that way the Democrats can't negotiate they can't so who caused who who is it that you would say was the most cause of the shutdown by far it's the news by far it's the news if you if there were no news what would happen if there were no news Trump and the Democrats would sit down and say this isn't even important we both agree on this basically what do you want 5.7 will you take will you take three and a half okay good boom gone right it is only the news that causes

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right it is only the news that causes the problem and then they report on it so that in other words they've generated their own news about racism to report on it they've generated their own news about the shutdown they caused it now they report on it like it's somebody else's problem let's give you some more what about the State of the Union the state of the union is in the news because Pelosi fairly cleverly is saying oh this shutdown would make it too unsafe for us to have this because we would have enough security Now none of that is true right they would have plenty of security it would just be um it would be bad form perhaps to have it now because you would be causing a lot of security people to work for free and it just it wouldn't be a good good look but why is the state of the union the state of the union is a TV news event it's a news event so the only reason that we're having a conversation

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reason that we're having a conversation about whether or not to have the State of the Union has nothing to do with whether the president can tell us what he's thinking or how the union is doing he has lots of ways to do that it's all about television coverage and it's not Fox News that's saying don't do it CNN is going to report this like it's a serious thing and they're going to keep this story alive but there's only a question about the State of the Union because of news coverage if you took that away and there were no new if there was no news coverage would Pelosi say oh yeah just you know we'll be there just go tell us what's happening I don't think so how about this one um one of the biggest stories and again it's in it's a headline again today Michael Cohen being just terrible for different reasons right so every week or so there's a new story about how mohen is terrible or maniford is terrible or or or somebody who has been

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terrible or or or somebody who has been hired by the Trump Administration is terrible what what is the reason that so many Trump hires are so bad and by the way I think if you're even if you're a supporter you would acknowledge that there is a shocking number of uh Trump Administration hires you know since the beginning that were just horrible what causes that well what causes it is the way the news has reported on this President they've poisoned him it's yeah it's impossible for him to choose from the same base of qualified people that anybody else could choose from any other president who was not so framed by the media would say hey do you want a job and there would be all these great qualified people and it would be you know You' just be picking the best people you end up with manifer because you don't have options now Cohen was just sort of a holdover

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now Cohen was just sort of a holdover from his non-political days and you know uh I don't think anybody saw a Cohen turning on him uh and by the way the reason that you hire a Cohen to take care of some of your let's say non-public stuff is because Cohen is not such a good lawyer that he had other things to do Cohen is probably a terrible lawyer but you want a terrible lawyer to do sort of the you know the dark secret stuff that you just don't want to get out so that that was a special situation what about the economy um the economy has several major forces right now there's the underlying stuff of the economy which looks good right most of the most of the uh let's say the variables and the Dynamics of the economy pretty solid but the economy is a psychology engine if the psycholog is right it

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engine if the psycholog is right it grows assuming that you don't have shortages or Wars or stuff and if the psychology is wrong well then you don't whose psychology is pushing the market up and whose psychology is pushing it down pretty obvious the president is bolstering it with his persuasion saying it's great and all the good things about it and all the things he's done to make it at work which bolsters your confidence what is CNN reporting oh I don't know it's looking a little shaky uh well let's find let's find the only Economist n of 100 who will say things are going to go off the rails let's find a story that we can make this good Trend look like a bad Trend let's paint it in the worst possible way so if the if the economy slows down CNN will report on it and they will have caused it not entirely but to maybe the largest extent and might be the biggest variable is how people feel about it so if confidence

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people feel about it so if confidence goes down who caused it it wasn't it wasn't you know you and I sitting at home having our own thoughts it was the way it's reported because that's the only thing we really know about the big questions about the economy is the way it's reported all right um so look at look at the biggest stories in the news and make this a habit ask yourself if this had been reported straight meaning just the facts would we have this National problem that the news is reporting about all right I don't think so right um I want to I want to take some time each of my periscopes to um highlight bad thinking wherever I see it so it could be bad thinking on the left or the right or in the media or in the government or whatever just

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in the government or whatever just really really bad thinking and here's the one I just saw and it was from uh I I won't even tell you who because it doesn't matter where it came from you it's something probably most of you said so it goes like this um some Republican is accused of being a racist and then some uh somebody on the right says hey you
you Democrats uh uh the Democrat Party is the party of racism because it's the party of slavery it's the party of the KKK it's the party of all these racist things that my friends is just bad thinking do I have to tell you why do I have to tell you why it's you can't even say you disagree with it or agree with it it's there's just something wrong with your brain you know it's you're not optimized for thinking if you say that that

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that matters yeah it doesn't really matter what happened decades ago those people aren't around those people are not the ones everything changes if you tell me I should judge Hillary Clinton by something she did in college I'm going to say hell no I might not want her to be president but I'm sure not going to judge her for something she did in her 20s that I didn't like even if it was racist even if it was racist because you know what happens if you wait 50 years and you stay alive well for a lot of people you become better people you know you get smarter wiser Society changes you grow with it you evolve the most normal thing in the world is for bad things to turn into good things startups that don't have anything going for them become big companies people who used to be bad become good people who who committed crimes in the past stop doing it people used to be cheaters

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doing it people used to be cheaters become faithful people who you the most common thing in the world is for people to just become better and if you wait 50 years almost everybody's better so the the claim that it's some kind of a defense for current you know allegations of racism because somebody else belongs to a group and the group of completely different people who have been dead for years did bad things in the past there is just no connective tissue between those thoughts and to act as though that's a response is embarrassing frankly and uh I I don't I don't know what else to say about that um
um now let me ask you uh oh the Gillette ad so the gal ad I saw a headline that said it was a

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ad I saw a headline that said it was a big success and I suppose a big success means that they got a lot of clicks which they did and everybody's talking about it but wouldn't you love to know how that meeting went wouldn't you love to have been in the meeting where Gillette made those decisions and here's the question I'm asking myself what what was the gender mix in the meeting you know was it was it all men probably not right wouldn't you guess that it was not a group of all men who made the decision about the Gillette commercial somebody says all men I don't think so maybe I'd love to know I would love to know exactly who was in the room when they were talking about that in that meeting and made a made a decision um my guesses it went something like this there were probably some women involved and that when they raised the

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involved and that when they raised the idea the men uh were afraid to push back so my guess is that the men in the meeting were sitting there quietly thinking to themselves oh I hate this this I hate this but I don't know what to do about it I don't want to lose my job I don't want to be the one who's pushing back against because think about it the way it was presented probably was hey let's take a stand against these bad behaviors of you know meing and uh whatever else they highlighted and if you were just talking about the bad behaviors it'd be hard to push back right like who's going to push back against bad behavior uh so I think I think the men were just trapped and they just sat there and said all right let's let's give it a try now it's possible that they knew exactly what they were doing and they said oh man people are going to flip out when they see this we're going to get so many

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see this we're going to get so many clicks this will be good for business but here's the problem remember remember when Nike did its commercial and what did Nike do I forget but their sales one way up um the thing is that Nike is purchased by everybody so if you if you anger half of your buyers but you really excite the other half you're probably going to come out on top but Gillette is pretty much a male product right they have lady Janette Gillette stuff but I think it's mostly a male stuff male product I don't know how the math works for them I don't know how how they can offend their Core Audio audence and hope that the smaller part of Their audience makes up the difference and so I'd love to see how that worked out for them but anyway it's kind of kind of hilarious now my comment was that it was sexist and sexist because of the not

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sexist and sexist because of the not mentioning women now I'm not going to you know I'm not making the point oh women have toxic femininity or anything like that but the point is anytime you identify any segment of the population and say this segment has a problem you're not really on strong ground you know we don't live in a society in which that's okay you can't pick out any group you can't pick out women you can't pick out men you can't pick out you know white black you can't pick out a group and do a commercial condemning them like in general uh so it shouldn't work out for them but maybe it will let's Str to
that you said I'm an expert on brand destroying BS well many of you have watched me uh cannibalize my own brand and maybe some of you are curious about that Scott you may say why are you making people you

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may say why are you making people you know hate your dilber comic and hate you personally if they liked you at all before with your controversy comments on things and um I've explained it before which is I'm not managing my brand and that's my value my value is I'm not going to manage my brand I mean I do a little bit right I mean on you know for the the obvious stuff but um I I'm one of the probably one of the few people who has any kind of public platform who isn't doing it for the money now I like money and if I could find a way to monetize this I probably would so if you see me making money someday from this you know I hope you're just happy about it but I don't do it for that reason nobody would do anything I've done for the last three years because they thought there was a profit in it I do it because I think there's

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in it I do it because I think there's this desperate societal need for a third opinion and ideally fourth and fifth and sixth I don't know too many people who are arguing in public that they can't tell for example if climate change is you know something we really need to worry about or not and I've I've talked about that a lot can you imagine that that helps me in any way the answer is no I don't see any way that will ever help me but could it help the country could it helped the world well that's the point you know the point of it is that if I can you know Elevate the discussion and I'm hoping that the the minimum I can accomplish is to get rid of the worst arguments on both sides right uh some people say they they find it boring so I usually I'm trying to put these at the end of the periscopes CU I'm getting two completely different reactions some people are quite excited by it and by

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people are quite excited by it and by the way I'm getting more I'm getting more direct messages on the topic of climate than almost anything else and most people are saying that they they're really appreciating that I'm you know taking risk on it um and amazingly as as far as I've gone on climate change uh as far as I've gone on climate change here's a question I still can't get to the bottom of and I don't know why has the temperature gone uh gone up in an unprecedented way in the last 100 years
look at all the time that I've spent looking at both arguments and and all of the arguments come down to one thing has the temperature gone up in an unprecedented way in the last 100 years because if the answer is no then there's nothing to worry about if the answer is yes probably there's a lot to worry about you know I think we'll be fine but you should definitely worry about it the

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you should definitely worry about it the most basic question I can't get to the the bottom of it because both sides are dug in and can't send me to a link that I can just look at and say oh there it is well there's the temperature right there they both so um I've said this before the most persuasive um one of the top two but one one of the best most persuasive Skeptics of climate is Tony heler who writes under the name Steve Goddard and he presents all all kinds of detailed arguments and he does the best job of anybody I've seen on the skeptical side of making the the story simple in other words bringing it down to a level where everybody can understand it so in terms of his communication skills and in terms of his knowledge he's I think he's the gold standard of Skeptics so much so that if

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standard of Skeptics so much so that if he could be debunked I would say the climate scientists win that's how much credibility I'm putting with him all right I think Spencer and haer and Linden some of the others um they're convincing on their own but their arguments aren't quite as persuasive they don't they don't seem to hold the same power and I'm not sure quite why um
um so if I could find a climate scientist who would look at Tony Heller's um let's say his uh assumptions and his presentations and tell me what's wrong with them then I would probably lean toward the climate scientist point of view but it's been quite a while and I've been talking about him for a while and I've been looking at links and people always send me links to say okay I'm I'm going to debunk him here's my link and I don't see it

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link and I don't see it [Music] so it's conspicuous in its absence so far that doesn't mean it doesn't exist all right I'm still looking but it's conspicuous in its absence that his arguments continue to sort of stand un unattacked and his arguments are that the uh largely that the data has been fudged now I disagree with Tony on this one point intention so uh the climate gate used the words um you know hide the decline and used a trick so that is used by many people to say aha we have discovered intention they they clearly are you know on the surface made a decision to fake climate science for whatever reason I say that's not in evidence and not even close to being in evidence the far more likely um somebody

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evidence the far more likely um somebody said follow the money all right if you follow the money you can end up in two places not one the people saying the follow the money are probably saying they're they're being paid and therefore they're just taking the position of whoever is paying them that's one thing that follow the money could mean here's another thing that follow the money could mean bias it could be that the scientists genuinely believe and that this is my opinion my opinion is that the climate scientists genuinely believe what they're saying and that when they have a discrepancy they do try to explain it way to maintain their original position because there's so much other information that confirms it you know if you have a 100 things that confirms your opinion and then there's this one thing that seems like wait these these tree rings don't work or this there was this period that doesn't make sense they would try to explain it away the most

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would try to explain it away the most normal thing you would do is try to explain away the one thing that was in disagreement with the H 100 things so follow the money means two things one you're just being a jerk and you're taking money and you're not even doing science and you know you're doing it I don't think that's happening cuz if that were happening you would definitely have a whistleblower you know you would have more people saying yeah I was in the room I heard them talking about it uh and you know they were they were all bad I think what you have instead is people who are biased and are operating on their bias but here's the complicated part they could be operating on their bias and still be right right you could be operating on your bias and still be right because because they're either going to be biased for or against climate change and climate change is either happening or not in in the dangerous way obviously happening um so I would say the the Tony heler

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um so I would say the the Tony heler standard is what I've come down to if somebody can uh make a convincing argument against his proposition that the historical data was was tinkered with for the purpose of selling climate change that's going to be pretty convincing to me yeah if if nobody can and if somebody can we'll all listen to the argument all right but but the other arguments I've heard that I've dismissed I've dismissed the climate climate people don't believe it cuz they buy beach houses you know rich people buy houses in all kinds of dangerous places including the one I'm in right now I'm in earthquake territory all right rich people build houses in dangerous places literally last night I was talking to a rich person who lost his house in the big California fire did he know he was living in a place that could burn well yeah it was forested rich people always build in

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forested rich people always build in dangerous places it's just the most routine thing we do and we know that there's pretty good chance this house will burn up or flood or be in a hurricane or something the argument that climate scientists forgot to consider the impact of the sun on the climate I reject as just being stupid really they're climate scientists now now if you said they calculated it wrong and here's why I'll listen to that but if you say no climate scientists forgot the sun they did not forget the sun they did not forget the sun somebody's saying no one says that no one who knows what they're talking about says that if you were on my Twitter feed you would see person after person saying they forgot to calculate the sun which is not what happened um then the other bad argument is that historically uh historically that CO2

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historically uh historically that CO2 and temperatures have not been together so why why do you assume that they are now that argument falls apart because once you calculate the sun with the calculation of temperature and CO2 they're in perfect alignment say the scientists and that seems pretty convincing to me the uh the other the other bad argument is CO2 is a trace material could not have as much effect as the clouds and we can't we can't figure out what the clouds are doing to which I say CO2 is what is causing the greater water vapor so the clouds are because of the CO2 that's the whole point the the point is not CO2 or clouds the climate science point is that the CO2 causes a difference in the cloud cover which causes a difference in the temperature all right so most of the arguments that I can penetrate from the Skeptics just fall apart I mean they're just ridiculous so if you're a climate

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just ridiculous so if you're a climate skeptic I would advise you to retreat from the bad arguments all right now if you said for example also that the temperature I think the temperature in the United States has not been uh going up like it has in the rest of the country if you say haha the landbased temperatures don't show this increase I say well you got a problem something like 95% of all the land-based measurements are in the United States so basically landbased measurements as far as I can tell are not really part of climate science let me say that again because that would be the most controversial thing you've ever said the ocean is 90% of the warming right 90% of the the temperature stuff has to do with the ocean because it's you know the big the big Mass all right we have very few measurements in the ocean but we have lots of measurements on land unfortunately almost all of

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on land unfortunately almost all of those measurements like 90 plus% are in the United States and there's a suggestion by the climate scientists that the United States might be an outlier meaning that you know we might actually not be getting warmer even if the rest of the world is which would not be unusual you could have warmer and colder places even if the the average is going up so what that tells me is that the landbased measurements are actually not really part of the decision how could they be it's only 10% of the total heat and most of them are in United States and I think people agree on both sides that the United States is the exception so if the only land measurements we have you know the 90% of them are in the one place by coincidence is the exception to global warming what the hell good is it couldn't we just ignore land-based measurements and shouldn't we now I'm sure a scientist would give me a good

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sure a scientist would give me a good answer to that whenever you hear me say something that sounds like a conclusion in this in this topic you should just assume I don't know what I'm talking about but if uh but if I can't figure it out with all of your help and all the people sending me links and you know there tons of scientists who are following this conversation if we can't figure this out you got to wonder why not all right that's a fair question um so I would say that the most unbelievable claim from climate science scientists is this the most unbelievable Claim by climate scientists is we can measure the average temperature of the earth and we can also do it um and we can do it historically in a way that is is precise enough that we can tell that there's something really weird going on right now now I'm not saying there isn't something weird going on with

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something weird going on with temperatures cuz it it does feel like you know we're better at measuring things lately and that most of that change is lately so we probably have a good a good idea that lately there's something scary happening that part seems reasonable but how far back can you go to determine that it's unusual for that part I don't believe it all right I just don't believe it now again you don't want to be the person who's the trite saying oh a science can't do something and then the next thing you know you got a you got a man on the moon um but oh can I give a reason why oh a reason why I don't think that we can measure the temperature of the Earth because we measure uh maybe
less than 1% of the ocean I would say we probably measure 1% of the ocean and 90% of all the warming in the world is in the ocean and if you've ever seen an ocean that water is

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you've ever seen an ocean that water is moving around a little bit have you ever been in a swimming pool where the top of the water is you know like or not the top of the water but like you're swimming through a swimming pool and you're going through hot and cool Parts just within a swimming pool like you're in one part you're like hey it's kind of warm and then you go to another part of the same pool and it's I can't believe that we've got enough measurements in enough places given the size of the world and all the the fluid motions the fact that you've got some volcanoes under the water here and there I can't believe it I'd love to believe it's true but it's the most unbelievable part of climate science somebody saying please stop I oh damn it I was just going to block you for saying that um please stop is a comment which will get you blocked in the future okay uh if you have you know if if it if the topic doesn't interest you I would invite you

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doesn't interest you I would invite you to just not listen and if the topic does interest you and you think I'm just saying the wrong stuff give me a reason you know you got you got room just give me a reason and then you're you're more than welcome to stay because I like being challenged on it because you know my thinking is very um very approximate somebody said what about satellites I do not believe satellites can measure measure the uh the temperature of the Earth at the level of complexity that we need and they didn't come around until 1979 so satellites wouldn't help you before 1979 and you kind of need to know what happened before that to make a decision about whether today is unusual
um yes heat rises and gets into the lower troposphere which satellites are apparently pretty good at meas measuring

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apparently pretty good at meas measuring but if you tell me that there is a perfect or perfect enough correlation between the what's happening in the temperature at the bottom of the ocean the bottom of the ocean and what's happening in the troposphere Maybe maybe but uh it doesn't sound believable so they would need to convince me a little bit on that yeah and apparently the uh you've heard the stories that the magnetic north is moving have you heard of that apparently deep within the world the the molten the molten whatever uh must be metallic is moving around so that the North Pole is no longer the North Pole like the the magnetic north is moved like a lot right it's it's not even moving a little it's moving a lot now here's here's a question for you did you know that the uh the ma the magnetic core of the Earth is the only reason

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core of the Earth is the only reason that we can survive how many of you knew that if we didn't have you know a magnetic Planet we'd all be dead what are the odds so what apparently what the magnetic field the United States does is it uh reduces radiation I think I'm using the right word and if we did not have a magnetic World we'd all be we couldn't have life because the radiation would kill us the the magnetic is like a force field now let me ask you this what are the odds that you live on a planet that has literally a force field
do other planets have force fields doesn't that make you wonder if you understand reality CU it's a little bit like the simulation right it's a little bit like um makes you wonder if you know Advanced

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um makes you wonder if you know Advanced aliens years ago came to the world and said you know we could we could grow life here if we could take care of this radiation then somebody said well why don't we magnetize uh the the lava or whatever it is and the molten whatever at the center of the earth if we magnetize it then the world will will evolve in a way that supports life so you have to wonder was there ever a time when you know aliens picked up in the big you know pulled up in the Big Spaceship you know let's say the Earth is this big and the alien spaceship is this big and it's they got a big electromagnet and they see it and they go hey let's let's magnet ize this this this bad boy if we magnetize the inner core this this thing will become a force field and then life can live on it so I suppose I suppose there's nothing unusual about having a force

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nothing unusual about having a force field on your planet I remember reading about that and thinking seriously a force field we have a natural force field because I've always wondered what the hell magnetism was for you know like why does it exist here's something that'll blow your mind um and if you didn't know this it's freaky hold on let's say you had two magnets right some most of you already know this but for those who don't let's say you have two magnets if you get them close they stick together right now let's say you want to keep these two magnets from being attracted what can you put between them that will make them not attractive let's say you put a 100 mile wall of some kind between them but it has to be you know the same distance cuz the magnetic field only let's say goes this far what can you put between two magnets

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far what can you put between two magnets to turn off their magnetic attraction do you know the answer to this nothing nothing right so a few of you knew this there's literally nothing there's no material no material either theoretically or in reality they can go between these and stop them from being attracted isn't that weird that that that was the moment I realized I didn't understand reality the moment I realized that there's nothing you can do to even slow it down now if you said to me okay you could put you know some kind of advanced ceramic between him and you know and if you measured it you could see that it took 1% off because it was a good dense material or whatever but it turns out that whatever magnetism is we certainly don't have a a common sense understanding of it because it is not affected by anything in the way now I don't think that's true of

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way now I don't think that's true of gravity right if you put something between a planet and you well I guess that would just increase your attraction in the same direction but uh if you don't understand why gravity can affect things no matter what's in between them you know it's a weird planet all right that's all I've got for today and I will talk to you tomorrow