Episode 341 Scott Adams: CNN is Creating News out of Nothing

Date: 2018-12-18 | Duration: 47:28

Topics

Election meme from Russia sought to increase Trump votes… …by helping Trump voters masturbate less (yes, true) CNN article says Russian election influence confirmed because… …less black people voted than when Obama ran Robert De Niro’s thoughts on President Trump…who cares? CNN uses quantity in lieu of quality Laundry lists of weak reasons don’t equal a good reason Patreon dropped Sargon of Akkad for something he said Big names are dropping Patreon in protest Russian government is opposed to rap music, they aren’t wrong Rap music is harmful to the mental health of some people Music programs kids, influences their behavior Rap promotes drug culture, anti-establishment attitudes General Flynn had no obvious reason to intentionally lie The odds of no pardon is zero Flynn appears to be a casualty of a witch hunt Amy Siskind makes it clear, NO white males for Democrat party

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hey joanne hey everybody get in here sharona you're always quick tyler another quick one sam it's time for coffee with scott adams it's the best part of your day except for all the other parts that are going to be pretty awesome too and so join me grab your cup your your mug your chalice your glass your stein fill it with your favorite liquid i like coffee and raise it to your lips and join me for the simultaneous sip
so i've been watching cnn try to make news out of nothing and it gets funnier and funnier the more nothing there is because they they don't have the option of doing what i do some days which is i get on here and i say you know not much happened so i think i'll cut it short

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cut it short they don't have that option they have to do the same amount of news every day whether there's news or not and for the next few weeks there probably won't be a lot of news unless we get surprised we could be surprised so my favorite made-up news story is about the russian interference and how it affected the election now keep in mind that the russians are accused of spending thousands of dollars [Laughter] doesn't it sound funny so apparently russia spent thousands of dollars trying to influence the entire election in the united states thousands russia spent less trying to influence the election in the united states than i did you know if you if you count let's say the uh

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the uh if you were to count the value of my time you know if you just if you just uh added up the hours i spent talking about politics put a dollar amount on my hourly wage i spent more than russia to influence the election and that's not even a joke i mean way more than russia but nobody's investigating me because apparently that's legal um so there is i'm watching cnn the anti-trumpers in general trying to shape that story to make it from nothing into something so they've got to find some kind of threshold where all right yeah it was a small impact but it was the deciding impact here's the problem with that number one it's not like there was one thing that decided the election there were thousands of variables and every one of those variables

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every one of those variables had to be exactly what it was to get the result you got but if i had to p if i had to choose among the weakest variables oh and by the way i think even nate silver was tweeting about this yesterday somebody fact-checked me on this but i think even nate silver was saying that the russian ads were so small that the odds of them making a difference or you know is kind of a head shaker to imagine that it made any difference but i keep saying so show me show me the ad can somebody show me the actual ad and i think i tweeted it last night so i'm going to see if i can find it i hate making you wait while i look for things on my phone but you could have another sip of coffee and it would be totally a good use of time oh here it is
actually chris hayes tweeted this and then i retweeted it so here's one of the actual uh alleged russian memes so there's jesus and jesus

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russian memes so there's jesus and jesus is talking to a modern looking man and the man has got his head down like this and then jesus is quoted as saying struggling with addiction to masturbation
reach out to me and we will beat it together
and then it goes on to say you can't hold hands with god when you are masturbating and use our hotline if you need help so apparently there's a hotline for people who are addicted to masturbation now i'm thinking to myself well i don't know
i don't i don't know who paid for these ads
ads was it the kremlin did the did the kremlin say hey mean farm

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did the kremlin say hey mean farm make us some memes that will guarantee that trump gets elected this is what we're trying to do what what do you have any ideas and and they're you know they're brainstorming they're like let's see how do we get trump elected how do we get trump elected maybe we could speak out against masturbation and then the people who would have stayed home to you know or you know they might go vote instead so it could be that russia determined with all of their technical proficiency that the average trump voter was likely to stay home and masturbate instead of voting but maybe maybe if they used a clever persuasive meme it just takes one you know you don't you don't want you don't want to go too far you know two memes would be way too much that would be too many memes you'd be

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that would be too many memes you'd be like yvonne why are you making so many memes well we're trying to influence the election you don't need more than one meme just just hit that masturbation thing once that should you know free up a lot of people who would have stayed home on election day doing their you know and uh throw a little jesus in there because we know that the trump supporters they like their jesus they like their masturbating you think you can cancel them out so first of all there is a reason that the anti-trump media doesn't show you
you the memes that the russians made because we have seen them right it's been a while it hasn't been a long time since you saw the memes but for a while they they were in public and you looked through them and they were no better than this one this meme was one of the best ones their memes were absolutely ridiculous

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their memes were absolutely ridiculous there isn't the slightest chance that the kremlin was behind this effort because if they were they would have they they would have murdered all the meme makers for doing such a bad job you know i got to think you get fired if you do that kind of work and even in russia
so there's an article this morning i forget who it doesn't matter somebody on cnn
cnn had an article that said yeah but you have to consider that the margins were razor thin there were razor thin margins in some of the states so so maybe you know maybe the masturbation meme made a difference but then they went on to say that you could probably identify where the impact was by looking at the african-american vote and i swear i'm not making this next part up you're gonna laugh when i say this but but the analysis was that the the 2016 election

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that the the 2016 election far fewer black people voted than they did when obama ran for president
do i need to say anything more about that cnn actually said that the memes might be working because fewer black people voted when obama wasn't running
and not only that it was one of the biggest drops in history or the biggest from number of black voters from one election to the next it was the biggest drop now was it also the biggest increase when obama was running this was actually an article that they ran now they did acknowledge that you know the first black president was a reason that people could show up to vote
but did did they need to even make this point at all since they have zero evidence and there's an obvious

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there's an obvious reason why it happened that was the best they could come up with for why russia actually had an impact on the this razor thin election that was it that was their best evidence so so far we've seen the masturbation theme and the fact that fewer black people vote when there's not a black candidate that's their evidence man the president's in trouble now then and then i watched cnn's john berman talk about how the president's tweet used quote mob language that's right they've decided that the president is not technically guilty of any crimes but we know he's up to something because in his tweet he called cohen a rat and you don't call people a rat unless you're mobbed up in some way and

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unless you're mobbed up in some way and i believe that john berman referred to it as the nexus of russia wikileaks and trump campaign the nexus remember i was telling you about all the different ways that cnn tries to make something sound like a crime when it isn't it's like well this imp this information would implicate implicate this would suggest suggest or there's a nexus potentially a potential nexus where the hell is the crime don't tell me what's implicated and possible don't tell me what you imagine don't don't tell me if show me a crime further they make fun of giuliani for saying on a number occasions to some version of this well what the president is accused of doing didn't happen and even if it had it wouldn't be a crime and you know

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it wouldn't be a crime and you know excuse me
i just had to do that i overslept i'm not ready for today
so they're making fun of him for saying that what the president did um didn't happen first of all it didn't happen but if it did it wasn't illegal and cnn mocks him for that as if that's not fair to say now i would say that in a normal conversation if somebody said oh
oh i didn't do that and by the way it isn't bad
bad you would kind of think there was something up right because you don't need to add the and it isn't bad even if i did because that sounds like you really did it but in the context of a legal case whether or not you did it
it is perfectly good question and whether or not it's illegal is another perfectly good question so within a legal context

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within a legal context it's perfectly reasonable to say it didn't happen and if it did it wasn't even illegal that's two levels away from reality cnn is so cnn is there's something wrong here and and there's two levels preventing you from even getting to that wrong place anyway um cnn carried on their front page a story about robert de niro talking about his difficulties with trump do you know what do you know what article and or uh apologist i gotta get rid of the apologist
so do you know what article i am least likely to click on it's robert de niro talking about how he feels about trump and it's also bad to think that that's the most interesting thing about dinero right now the most interesting thing he has going on

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on is that he's kind of punchy and he talks about trump like everyone else in the world so i did not click on that i don't recommend you do it either so the the other thing that cnn is doing is they're talking about the quantity of legal things that are swirling around the president they're talking about it in quantity as soon as you hear people talking in quantity instead of quality it means they got nothing so what you're saying is like well there are six different cases swirling around the president tell me your best one what's your single best case that would put the president in jeopardy just pick one and by the way i'm writing about this in my my book loser think here's the technique if somebody gives you the laundry list of reasons that are all bs if somebody says for example the

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if somebody says for example the president is x because of these 10 reasons instead of trying to argue all 10 reasons because if you do and you debunk them all in order starting with the best one and went right down the list what would happen when you got to the last one on the list and you would clearly debunked it in front of the person you're talking to what would they do would they say oh i had 10 reasons you just debunked all 10 of them therefore i guess i changed my mind will anybody ever do that no they'll add an 11th reason or here's the fun part they'll start over from the top [Laughter] they will start over from the top like you didn't just debunk it and when you say i just debunked that here's what i just said what will they do then they'll go to number two they'll go to number two just like you didn't just debunk it you've all been through this right so here's what i recommend instead

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so here's what i recommend instead when somebody gives you the laundry list of all the reasons say how about this we don't have time to debate them all but why don't you pick your number one best reason just one and make a big deal about just one
one and you say can we make a deal if i can if i can shake your confidence on your best reason will you agree to rethink the quality of the rest of your reasons so just make sure you give me the best one i don't want the second best one i want your most solid reason give me that we won't talk about the rest because if your first reason is good you will have changed your mind i will change my mind to your way of thinking i don't even need to hear the others one good reason is all i need to agree with you but would you agree that if i can make your best reason look ridiculous you'll rethink the rest of them that's what i would do all right

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that's what i would do all right there's this weirdly interesting story about a character who goes by the name of sargon of akkon i guess who uh seems to be popular with people on the right but he's not an alt-right and hates he hates the all right he hates the alt-right so much that he said some bad things about them carl benjamin is his real name and he said it in a way that um was judged uh hate speech by patreon the the platform where he was getting all of his or a lot of his funding and they dropped him
him now here's the interesting thing he didn't he didn't say his alleged hate speech uh somebody's saying it's pronounced akkad
um he didn't say what he said on their platform so patreon kicked him

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on their platform so patreon kicked him off the patreon platform for something he said on youtube so that's the the first thing that's getting people hopping but since i've been hearing about this i said to myself um hey
i was laughing at a comment uh i said what did he say that got him kicked off and it took days for me to find some reference to it because i guess it probably all got deleted or something and i thought man if jordan peterson and sam harris and all these guys dave rubin you know these are all people who are super rational reasonable pro-speech people if they're all
all hopping mad about it so much so that they're looking at creating a whole new platform i guess what he said what must have been just so uh i don't know politically incorrect that you know i'm going to read this and i'm going to say

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going to read this and i'm going to say to myself oh that's not so bad i can't believe he got kicked off with that platform and then i read what he said
i'm not going to tell you what he said but
but i would certainly expect to be kicked off a platform if i said it in fact i can't imagine anybody not getting kicked off a platform for saying what he said so i'm not going to repeat it now some have said oh he was speaking ironically yeah so the the essence of it was he used the n word to talk about alt-right people so he was insulting here's where it gets complicated he was using the n-word to insult white people who are racists but also i think it no or was he do insulting the the questioner he was he was using it against somebody white and therefore that has given people cover to say no no no he used the n-word but he

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no no no he used the n-word but he wasn't talking you know he didn't use it against black people he was using it in an ironic or kind of intellectually clever way and if he don't catch the if you don't catch that that was the case then it looks bad but really it was more of an intellectual thing he was saying that's not what i saw it's not what i saw
saw what i saw in the words was that he used the words and then explained that the white person he was talking about was just as bad that kind of gets you kicked off of any platform so i'm in this um let me get to my point there before you get bored with it my point is
i am continually asked to join various boycotts and causes i am often asked to support various people who get kicked off of things or are

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kicked off of things or are or censored etc but it's kind of a trap because the moment you support them you are associated with their speech no matter how clearly you say that's not why you're doing it so it's pretty brave for sam harris and for jordan peterson and those guys to to take up the cause because it's going to associate them with the language and i don't know how i don't i don't want to be associated with it so i don't know how to be part of the cause although i i have you know sort of uh let's see i don't like too much censorship but i don't think you can say that there's never a line can you say there's never a line i think that's really the question i think instead of free speech or no free speech the question should be is there ever a

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the question should be is there ever a line and if there's never a line that would be a reasonable thing to say and i've asked this before but why is it that i can't click a filter on social media and simply never be exposed to people who talk like that so that i would never see them but if i wanted to i could how how does that not make everybody happy i suppose because then i guess the neo-nazis would have a thriving life online or something i suppose that would be a problem
did he get the 48-hour rule um it's been 48 hours i haven't seen any kind of clarification but if he did clarify and it makes a difference i'll take a look at that but i don't think he did so apologies and clarifications don't count for him there are some things that if you really

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there are some things that if you really said them an apology wouldn't make any sense because he's not he's not really being um punished i don't think for the choice of words i think he's being punished for the thought so unless he changes his mind which would be unusual um and i don't know how he would apologize since he's banned on everything but anyway if somebody wants to if somebody wants me to send the uh send me the clarification and or apology i would be happy to take a look at that but i can't imagine there's some situations where you know like let's say if you murder somebody you know an apology doesn't make any difference you know if you so so there's some things clearly that don't have an apology doesn't make any difference now there's also a story about putin he has a war on rap

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has a war on rap and although he said things about it being part of the culture and therefore they should support it apparently the russian government is acting against rappers and rap music to which i say
at what point do you get to treat language as a medical problem or a social problem does language and let's say music in particular does it ever rise to the level of being dangerous for society um i'm going to say something that you're all going to hate this probably half of you will never come back again
in our country rap music has to be legal because it's just baked into our free speech thing it has to be legal but in my opinion um there's a certain cultural

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um there's a certain cultural you know message that comes with rap music that is uh terribly harmful for people terribly harmful now when i was young and thinking way back when al gore's wife tipper tipper gore tried to get um music i guess with their records at the time records and cds there she was trying to get them labeled if they had offensive stuff in it so that it as a consumer you would at least know if this music had offensive things in it and i think she largely succeeded in that because music is kind of labeled now isn't it and at the time i said to myself you know i was probably 12 or whatever i was i thought oh my god old people old people are so funny they think that if i listen to this music i'm gonna i'm gonna start acting differently but i'm not that dumb i know the difference between music and something that matters

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something that matters i'm not going to be influenced by this music and then i grew up and i studied hypnosis and i studied persuasion and i studied influence and at this point it is completely clear anybody who anybody who thinks that advertising works you know if you even understand that advertising works of course the music changes children if you're 10 years old and you're listening to rap music because your older sibling has it it is absolutely programming you from a scientific perspective i mean i suppose you could run some tests on this but i don't think you'd have to wonder how the tests would come out it absolutely makes a difference
and does it make a difference to the point where it could kill you yeah absolutely yes rap music this will be the part that gets taken out of context rap music is lethal

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rap music is lethal just not too many people the vast majority people will not have a negative experience for music but there are a lot of people on the edge and those those people on the edge it could make them deadly it could make them hurt themselves it could cause them to do drugs they wouldn't have done to live a lifestyle they wouldn't have lived to get a tattoo they wouldn't have tried to get to speak in a way that they wouldn't have normally spoken i i watched i watched white kids uh turn into black culture with saggy pants and speaking the way they hear on the music etc
etc i've watched i've watched rap music completely reprogrammed kids completely changed their entire cultural dna i've watched music do that in you know um somebody said they would not allow their kid to listen to rap music you really don't have a choice

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have a choice your kids are going to listen to all that stuff they're going to see every movie they just go to their friend's house if your kid has a smartphone your kid is listening to rap music there's no way around it so here's the thing in the united states i do not suggest that we try banning rap music just because it's impossible and it would be too far off of our cultural um preference i guess for free speech and expression but it's dangerous as hell rap music is absolutely killing people no doubt about it but you know what else kills people cars sports bicycles swimming pools slipping in the shower all right we live in a world where all kinds of stuff is dangerous and we don't we don't eliminate all the things that can kill people yeah we'd i don't know how many people have died on weed it's

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have died on weed it's closer to zero so in the united states the you know the debate if you will is sort of settled in the sense that we've decided we'll we're just going to let all that stuff happen but in russia when they're saying should we stop this stuff they're not wrong
you know if you gave me if you told me there's a culture in which they're already accustomed to not having free speech since they don't already have free speech let's say it's china let's say it's russia if they don't already have free speech would they be worse off to be denied a certain kind of music if it actually makes society better i don't know it's not as obvious as it seems uh in this country we have such a investment in free speech there's no way around it right it's going to be the way it's going to be i don't recommend changing it

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be i don't recommend changing it but it is unambiguously absolutely corrosive to society and if russia or china do not want their society to be corroded and to become a drug culture like the united states they might want to get rid of the influences that turn your culture into a drug culture and rap music does that absolutely
so i would you know if i had to put a number on it let me guess i'm going to guess how many people in the united states are killed every year by rap music
probably 20 to 50 000 maybe if i had to guess how many people die just in the united states per year because there is rap music now i'm saying rap music but i'm real i mean the the cultural attachments that come with that so that what comes with rap music is if uh you

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what comes with rap music is if uh you know the drug culture that comes with it um and maybe the you know the uh the anti-establishment sort of culture maybe get a tattoo you sag your pants you can't get a job it changes your whole life your life trajectory maybe you're more likely to carry a gun because it's part of that culture i would say yeah 20 to 50 000 people and that's just a guess right if there's somebody here who says my god scott that couldn't possibly be true you know it's a lower number than that i wouldn't argue too hard i'm just giving you my best opinion based on based on what it does what it does to people in general and how some of them it might push them over a line i'd say 20 to 50 000 here but how many people die die in cars more scott

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more scott you might be going down a slippery slope well the thing that keeps me from going down the slippery slope is that in the united states it's still unambiguously legal and i don't i don't recommend changing that it's completely legal and i agree it has to stay that way in this country uh it's not the genre there's a there's christian rap well okay i i hear what you're saying that rap can be separated from you know the culture but you know what i'm talking about you know what i'm talking about
would you say rap is a poison um no not in the technical sense i would say that rap um well let me put it in a larger context
we have we have a cultural preference for saying that thoughts even if they're

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for saying that thoughts even if they're damaging thoughts are in a different category than physical health problems so if you break your arm everybody says that's a health problem but if you get a negative thought that ruins your life nobody says that's a health problem because you're otherwise mentally healthy you don't have mental illness you just have a bad idea to set you on the wrong path so let's say your bad ideas that you should become you should join a cult and murder yourself kill yourself let's say the bad idea is that you should become a suicide bomber let's say the bad idea is that you should cover yourself with tattoos before you're old enough to go get a job right so these are ideas which could damage people's potential and by the way i love tattoos i'm i'm a big fan of tattoos but it's unambiguously true that it could hurt your job prospects because other people don't like tattoos so

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we make that artificial that artificial distinction between an idea that can kill you and a physical problem like a virus and i'm not sure that's warranted maybe it has to be that way but it's a sort of an artificial you know distinction
um all right what about flynn well the flynn story just seems boring only all of the legal stuff the legal jeopardy swirling around the president
it's all just boring but um and you're also seeing that uh cnn reports that the president is seething

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can you imagine that anybody who would be in president trump's position would not be seething how would you not be angry about all the legal jeopardy
[Music] uh
uh yeah so i've said this before but i'll recap my thoughts on flynn are they he did get a bad deal and that he didn't do anything that looked criminal to me uh and even the lie apparently was oh let me talk about this one thing i i spend a lot of time talking about how cnn distorts the news but uh
but it comes from both sides and oh i know what i want to talk about i want to talk about climate change in a minute here but the the flynn story

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um there there's this question about whether he lied oh so here's here's the twist on this so if you listen to fox news or news on the right they'll say the two agents who interviewed flynn do not think he lied does that matter so here's an example of so that you'll see this on fox news all day long uh you'll probably see it five times today they'll say the agents the fbi agents who interviewed flynn say they didn't think he was lying what does that mean that's completely irrelevant because if they found out later that there was some information that disagreed with what he said in the meeting that would be the two agents didn't think he was lying when they were in the room then they found out later that what he said disagreed with some other source and then they would change their mind oh i guess we didn't know that but that's opposite of of the reality so every time you hear fox news say that the two people in the

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fox news say that the two people in the room said he wasn't lying it doesn't mean he was
was i'm just saying it doesn't mean anything there is literally no news value and the fact that the people who were in the room at the time didn't think he was lying at the time that doesn't mean anything because if they found out later there was some information that showed you he lied that's all you needed now i'm not saying that that's what happened i'm just saying it's completely irrelevant that the people in the room at the time didn't think he
was lying now there is the problem of why he would lie about something that had no no purpose and i think everybody agrees with this statement that there's no obvious reason why he would have lied there's nothing he was protecting he wasn't doing anything illegal it didn't he he was literally just doing his job you know making contacts and stuff and

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you know making contacts and stuff and so if you don't if you can't explain why he might have been lying like even even a hypothesis well hypothesis is he lied because of x you can't even do that it's it's pretty obvious that he just didn't remember
because if you compare the didn't remember explanation to every other explanation there is no other explanation that anybody's come up with now maybe somebody has a better imagination than i do and maybe they'll come up with one but given all that the odds of um given all that the odds of flynn not getting a pardon
zero i i think flynn gets a pardon because [Music] the base would be pretty pissed if he didn't let me ask you this how angry would you be at president trump if he did not pardon flynn

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if he did not pardon flynn show me and try to use words that tell me
me roughly how much that would bother you
i imagine if you actually saw flynn taken to jail it looks like you'll probably get off without jail time but yeah you would be angry there there are some things in politics that you just don't like but there are other things that would make you personally angry this one i think feels personal doesn't it
it doesn't whatever it happens to flynn because here's the thing can you relate to flynn
you know don't you feel like that so could have been you there's something about the the normalness of flynn's problem which is that from the evidence it appears they just forgot something and got trapped lost his lost his reputation lost his

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lost his lost his reputation lost his uh financial stability lost everything and it was in the and it was uh he was a casualty in the service of a witch hunt apparently because they haven't found anything that would would say that would violate that uh observation yeah so not only did flynn have 30 years of service to this country let me let me put it another way flynn risked his life for the country for years he put his own life on the line for the country for years and then when the country got to thank him they entrapped him and doomed him it might be the most insanely um you know unfair miscarriage of justice that we've ever gotten to see play out in front of us

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in front of us you know normally when somebody gets a presidential pardon they've actually committed a crime like a serious crime you know it might be a white-galler crime might be some other but they're real crimes whatever happened here is unlikely to be a real climb in fact we can't even decide if it was a crime how often do people go to jail or lose everything over something that might be a crime sort of if depending on what his interior thoughts were because if his interior thoughts were i don't remember that conversation with a russian no crime happened but if his interior thoughts were i'm going to lie about this and there's some reason well that it was a crime but we don't know what his interior thoughts were so we don't even know if this was a crime
yeah he's a criminal somebody says how can you be a criminal

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how can you be a criminal can you be a criminal because somebody else thought your interior thoughts were inaccurate
how do you cr how can you criminalize somebody for forgetting something it looks like that's what's happened anyway um so i would say that the the odds of trump um pardoning flynn uh assuming that you know that he doesn't get off on other purposes um you know in other words maybe the judge just throws everything out i don't know i suppose anything's possible but if if lynn is still in legal peril
i say trump pardons him and it's a slam dunk never look back in fact i'll even go further
let me uh let me go further for you if trump sacrificed reelection

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if trump sacrificed reelection to pardon flynn should he do it
there's your question of the day if no there's no way to know that you know any one thing would make a difference but if trump knew that pardoning flynn would cost him the second election if he knew it we can't know it but let's say he did should he do it anyway
yep do you know why because he's the commander-in-chief and the commander-in-chief doesn't leave anybody on the battlefield period the commander in chief does not leave a war a wounded soldier on the battlefield boom
yeah there's no question about it is it if you think about his his years of service and you think about how he's being screwed by his own country apparently the commander-in-chief can't leave

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the commander-in-chief can't leave somebody on the battlefield we just don't do that and i would say that that principle is bigger than the election that that's one of those principles that keeps the entire country safe right one one of the reasons that um you know if you're another country and you're thinking about getting into a war with the united states one of the things that's going to scare you is that we're not going to leave anybody on the battlefield and you know the fact that somebody is or is not left on the battlefield by itself isn't important but the the psychology that comes with that that you don't leave anybody on the battlefield is so strong that it's it's part of the i would say it's part of the psychological armor that makes our fighting forces the most you know powerful in the universe as far as we know galaxy let's say

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as we know galaxy let's say so i don't think there's any competition for what is the right thing to do if you're the commander-in-chief you will give up your own reelection to maintain that we don't leave a soldier on the battlefield period um
so that's my call i think this is a slam dunk and if anybody's worried about um if anybody's worried about flynn going to uh jail zero chance of that you know unless it's temporary but he's not going to serve a whole term for sure
they're saying that trump will go to jail if he doesn't get reelected for what don't they need to find a crime you know i suspect that if trump announced tomorrow that he wasn't running for reelection um and by the way i think trump can

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um and by the way i think trump can pardon flynn and he can run for re-election and it probably doesn't have that much difference but just if it made a difference he'd still have to pardon him uh and i would be i would be surprised if trump doesn't win re-election easily you know you probably saw the whole democrats
did i talk about amy siskind who is a prominent democrat supported hillary and said that she's she's announcing in advance that she would not support a white male candidate on the democrat side because that's not the way the country's going etc and i thought to myself well it looks like we got four more years of president trump they better come up with something really good if they're gonna [Music]
if they think they're gonna win it win next time

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next time all right i'm going to get off now and i will talk to you later