Episode 329 Scott Adams: Modern Presidential Tweets, Mueller Porn Updates

Date: 2018-12-08 | Duration: 1:00:08

Topics

Don Jr. shared a meme mocking AOC Visual, slightly inappropriate, emotional impact AOC sarcastic reply was so provocative it can’t be ignored Rex Tillerson recently dumped on President Trump President Trump counter-punched Tillerson with a Tweet Nobody does persuasion-contrast as good as President Trump Only losers judge people by whether they’ve made a mistake How a person deals with the mistake is the key Kevin Hart’s ancient humor Tweets about LGBTQ community Are the Democrats pushing the black community from the party? Party support: women, immigration and LGBTQ Mueller’s release of new info…something for everyone Wouldn’t we know if Mueller has found anything juicy? Russian troll farm created anti-Hillary election ads Russian troll farm ALSO created anti-Trump ads If intent was ONLY to sabotage Hillary… …why did they also create anti-Trump ads?

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bum-bum-bum hey everybody it's time for coffee with scott adams that's me and pretty soon it will be you hello Blake hello Yvonne Forrest Stefan good to see you all I hope you have your beverage do you have your beverage where's Joanne Joanne is usually quick on the buttons here Edmond hey ray grab you coffee grab your Stein your copier mug your chalice fill it with your favorite beverage and join me for the simultaneous up it comes now
so today will be the tale of three tweets the first tweet will be the dawn Don jr. tweet about eating dogs second one will be AO sees replied to Don jr.

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one will be AO sees replied to Don jr. and then we'll talk about president Trump's tweet about Rex Tillerson we got the 3 3 good tweets here so I'm gonna move my monitor a little bit so I can read to you from my other monitor sorry about the big hand let's do this ok that's better so Don jr. he he shared a meme in which he mocked a OSI Alexandria occasi Cortes by saying that well let me just look at the actual tweet so the the meme asked why are you so afraid of a socialist economy followed by the answer because Americans want to walk their dogs not eat them apparently that's a reference to Venezuela so if Venezuela is doing

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so if Venezuela is doing so poorly with socialism that people are literally eating dogs so the first thing that the the first thing we should look at is how good was the Don Jr tweet I would say a plus and by the way I don't want to ruin it for you but all the all the tweets I'm going to talk about today are all a plus in terms of getting your attention being a little more provocative than you think someone ought to be and being visual so those are the things you look for look for something that's out of the acceptable box but not so far out somebody goes to jail nobody gets hurt you know it's just a little bit inappropriate which is what makes it so interesting it's why we talk about it now a dog is very visual eating a dog is super visual so the Don Jr mean that he shared was really well weaponized

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shared was really well weaponized because it calls out a reference to Venezuela makes you talk about it so you're thinking about Venezuela as as the model of socialism you're imagining your dog most of us are probably dog lovers so from a emotional you know just construction quality the meme was excellent right so you don't have to like the message but in terms of the quality of it they hit all the notes it was provocative it was visual it goes to your emotion centers it brings in Venezuela a plus now here's the fun part Alexandria decides to respond and let's look at her response which I've just lost hold on a second

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she tweeted all right I hate when I'm reading a news story that doesn't show they tweet they just talk about it
so execs and Rhea says speaking about Don Junior's tweet she says I have noticed in her tweets she says I have noticed the junior here junior here has a habit of posting nonsense about me whenever the Muller investigation heats up please keep it coming junior it's definitely a quote very very large brain idea to troll a member of a body that will have subpoena power and month have fun so here she goes with the very very large brain quote which is again visual now it's she's referring to I believe it was the president who said that the that the Chinese negotiators over the trade agreements had had said that he has a very very large brain and people laughed

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very very large brain and people laughed because it's it's such a you know classic thing for President Trump to say and so she is using that against them to to maken now you may know you have noted that the the Democrats generally use sarcasm to replace reasons I don't know if you've noticed that and I'm sure that it happens on both sides but this seems it seems more prevalent I could be biased about this but it seems more prevalent that instead of giving reasons for things they will treat it as though the reasons are obvious and all you have to add is sarcasm so when she says it's definitely a very very large brain idea to troll a member of body so she's using sarcasm now sarcasm works really well with her base they love sarcasm it's like their bread and butter so that part's good and she also follows the Don

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part's good and she also follows the Don jr. model the president Trump model which is why she is so dangerous of saying something that's so provocative you can't ignore it
it who are we talking about her who else knows how to do something like this president Trump so she's using a very strong messaging strategy to say things that are a little farther outside the box than they need to be especially the part where she says that it's a bad idea to troll a member of a body meaning the house that will have subpoena power in a month so of course the critic said wait a minute are you threatening somebody over a tweet are you threatening to think somebody to jail over a tweet and she's not exactly saying that but she's kind of indicating that annoying the very people who are gonna decide whether you get subpoenaed might be a bad idea so I'd say her tweet is very powerful

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so I'd say her tweet is very powerful for her base hits all the right notes it's provocative it's a little it seems a little crazy but not too crazy then she had to follow up because a lot of people complained and her second tweet said and I haven't read this by the way I'm only seeing it for the first time for the GOP crying that this is a quote to threat I don't have power to savita anybody Congress as a body GOP included has the power although in this case GOP will be the minority voters so they don't really have power no individual member can issue a subpoena unless they are a chair which as a freshman I can assure you will not be also must be under a purview so I don't know what most of that means so that one I would say that follow-up tweet was weak but her first one was good because it got our attention that got us talking she made us think about the Moller investigation which is good for her she made us think about the president's statement that he has a very very big

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statement that he has a very very big brain she turned it into sarcasm which her team likes pretty good and we're talking about her that's a win now you may not be aware that Rex Tillerson who was fired as Secretary of State after I don't know however many months he did it recently gave a public interview in which he said that one of the reasons he couldn't work with President Trump is that the President had a different moral moral fiber I guess and that he'd quote asked him to do something illegal he didn't mention what that was but the the context here is that Tillerson was dumping on the president in a pretty brutal way that's that is a really brutal thing to say about your president that he had no you know moral fiber that Tillerson wanted he wanted to do illegal things without any specifics so President Trump being

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any specifics so President Trump being the counter puncher he is sent this tweet which I believe you've all seen by now he said talking about his current Secretary of State he goes Mike Pompeo is doing a great job I'm very proud of him so here he's he's creating contrast so the contrast is I'm not I don't need to insult everyone Mike Pompeo I was doing a great job so that's that's a good start then he goes his predecessor Rex Tillerson didn't have the mental capacity needed he was dumb as a rock and I couldn't get rid of him fast enough he was lazy as hell now it is a whole new ballgame great spirit estate so here again we see him crossing the line from polite behavior into something that you can't look away from you can't read this tweet and then it's just just go on with your day you have to stop what you're doing and really focus on this one because

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and really focus on this one because it's it's provocative in the way he likes to do it he takes things further than anybody's supposed to take it but that's why you're looking at it so just like Alexandria yeah he takes it to the next level where nobody gets killed nobody gets hurt nobody loses money but it makes your brain on fire so that's why it's so good now look for the look for the visual part of this he said talking about Tillerson the president said he was dumb as a rock and also lazy as hell now I was thinking to myself imagine Rex Tillerson in your head alright get a little mental picture of Rex Tillerson does Rex Tillerson look like a coffee cup no not really yeah does Rex Tillerson look like a squirrel no no there's nothing about him that looks like a squirrel does Rex

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that looks like a squirrel does Rex Tillerson look like an automobile no he doesn't does Rex Tillerson remind you of a rock a little bit he's got it he's got sort of the same shape you know he's got sort of a blockhead and he's got that sort of grayish coloring like a rock you actually see a rock so once again the president has picked a visual visual comparison that when you look at him you just think yeah I can see it I'm sort of sort of rock-like and then I went back and of course I had to watch what Tillerson said after I'd read this tweet because I didn't know what sparked it and if you watch Tillerson talk even in this interview because he's got a Texas drawl he has he has the Jeb Bush problem which

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he has he has the Jeb Bush problem which is that prior to you telling me that Jeb Bush was low-energy I just thought he was a qualified executive who was calm and cool but the moment you say Low Energy that's all I can see forever with Rex Tillerson before you told me he was lazy as hell according to the president I would have said well he's in a successful executive from Exxon you don't get that job without being a hard worker you know a real go-getter but the moment the president says he was lazy as hell and I looked at Rex Tillerson talking in the interview I found myself saying he's talking kind of slowly he's he's sort of low-energy I can I can kinda see the lazy thing now that doesn't mean he's lazy it would be surprising to me if somebody who had his resume Rex Tillerson you know was actually lazy but as a tweet and a and a punch back because this is a

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punch back because this is a counterpunch it's really powerful yeah the the lazy box of rocks comment while you dumb as a rock comment is great and then I've told you before that one of the persuasion things that the president does I think better than I've ever seen it done so this specific persuasion technique I doubt you'll ever see it done better than this and that is contrast so he doesn't just tell you that Tillerson is dumb because if the tweet said nothing but Rex Tillerson was dumb and lazy you would say to yourself there is a president who just calls everybody dumb and lazy and it would feel like he was just just insulting people he didn't like but because he starts his tweet with Mike Pompeo is doing a great job I'm very proud of him he's created this enormous contrast between doing a good job that he likes and being on his bad side it's the

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and being on his bad side it's the biggest contrast you'll ever see and and it's the size of the contrast that adds the persuasion right if he had just talked about one of them without the other you would miss all the contrast so the you know he consistently knows how to build into his persuasion maximum contrast visual persuasion and taking things a little bit farther than you think he should but again just like Alexandria's tweet just like Don juniors tweet he didn't take it so far did anybody gets hurt it's just we can't look away I should also mention I forgot to mention this that in Alexandria's tweet she referred to Don jr. as just jr. which is a pretty clever dismissive because just calling him jr. makes him sound like a child or something so that's actually pretty good

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something so that's actually pretty good persuasion too so there there you have three out of four tweets that were really well done one was done Jr's original tweet about socialism making you eat dogs try to forget that one right try to get that out of your head you can't you know if you started thinking about eating dogs equals socialism that is some powerful persuasion so Don jr. gets an A+ then Alexandria Octavia Cortes replied with a very clever reply I give her an A+ on that her response to the first week was was kind of weak and then the president's tweet is an absolute a plus because his his base laughs at it but it also rings true doesn't it the the thing about I'll talk about Kevin Hart given

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about I'll talk about Kevin Hart given the remind me again if I forget so it rings true because in the tilt in the Tillerson regime it doesn't feel like we got a lot done does it but as soon as mom Mike Pompeo was on board it felt like trade negotiations were we're going our way and North Korea was acting well it does feel like Tillerson didn't do the job that Pompeo did now from our point of view we can't know that that's true right we don't really know who did what we don't know if Pompeo was just there in the right time and things would have gone well for for tillers and heavy State around you don't know that but the way it looks is that the president has a good point that's how it looks now the critics of the President or piling on to be I'm on Twitter and they're using their most powerful weapon against me sarcasm that's right the

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against me sarcasm that's right the sarcasm trolls have attacked me for my tweet saying that I would talk about the president's tweet and they said some version of this I don't have Dale with me today so I'll have to do my best without him some version of all Ascot you say that the president is so good at hiring people if he's so good at hiring people why did he hire somebody like Rex Tillerson who's dumb as a rock and is lazy how could he be a good hire if he hired such a bad person which he now admits how can you explain that Scott how can you possibly explain that to which I say the smartest people I know will tell you the hiring is mostly guessing the skill is the firing if you can't fire people being good at hiring isn't gonna be good enough because everybody makes mistakes hiring there's

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everybody makes mistakes hiring there's no exception to that there's no such thing as a leader who hires only good people that's not a thing if you were if you were to tell me that Rex Tillerson you know being that the head of Exxon one of the biggest companies in the world having international connections having managed massive organizations if you had told me that he was available to be Secretary of State I'm pretty sure I would have hired him if he didn't drool during his interview the first time I talked to him because that's that's a serious resume right on paper Rex Tillerson should have been pretty great at that job and I was actually expecting that you would be now he didn't work out we'll never know exactly what the reasons are but he didn't work out he didn't work with the president well or he just didn't work well you know nobody will ever know those details but the President did get rid of him in a fairly

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President did get rid of him in a fairly timely manner in other words he gave him long enough to work that he could have a good good opinion on whether he would be good to keep and then when it was time to to fire him he pulled the trigger so my take on this situation as you saw excellent leadership hiring him was probably a good decision given how good he looked on paper and here's the important part given the number of people who would not be willing to work with the president remember when the president first took office most of the most qualified Republicans didn't want to have anything to do with it and he sort of had to pick a Republican right so the pool of people he could pick from was very small and it was not crazy to think that somebody with a business background especially one that powerful would be a good fit with with the president that was a pretty reasonable thing to assume now assuming things based on good reasons and being wrong is

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based on good reasons and being wrong is not stupid it's how you deal with being wrong that is the difference between whether you're smart or dumb this is one of the most important things they'll ever you'll ever hear as a tip if you judge people by whether they made a mistake you're a loser I'll say that again if you judge people by whether they made a mistake you are a loser you should judge them by how they deal with the mistake because you're making mistakes too if you've never made one you're probably well you know if you're the only person who's never made a mistake your time will come how people deal with their mistake will tell you a lot the fact that someone makes a mistake actually doesn't tell you that much because that's a universal quality we all make mistakes we all have blind spots right so I would say this is an example of the president doing the best you can do under the situation that was

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you can do under the situation that was presented to him very few people to pick from very little time because he had to hire a lot of people you know you really do
do in the beginning he picked somebody that was terrific on paper and then after it was clear it wasn't working out he got rid of them that's bad as good as you can do you know you'd like to say well why didn't he hire a good person in the first place and the reason is nobody can do that nobody yeah that pick whoever you think is the smartest person you've ever known let's say Warren Buffett let's say Warren Buffett has Warren Buffett ever had to fire anybody well I don't know but I'm guessing yes don't you think Warren Buffett has fired people does that make Warren Buffett bad at business how about Elon Musk or Bill Gates Mark Zuckerberg have they ever had to fire anybody of course have they ever had to fire people that they thought would work

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fire people that they thought would work out but didn't of course does that make them bad at hiring no no it makes them ordinary meaning you know they're not doing anything wrong it makes them leaders they're people who make mistakes and then they have to fix it that's the job all right Kevin Hart Kevin Hart was picked to host the the Oscars and then people poured through his tweets and found some what has been called anti LGBTQ stuff in there not not too recent but recent enough that it was a problem and he decided that rather than doing you know the normal kind of I'm so sorry apology I did everything wrong I've changed please forgive me I'm so sorry about the people I hurt he kind of went at it's more like a professional

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of went at it's more like a professional comedian which is he wasn't going to back off from the fact that he was joking now I looked at the tweet and I think the tweet had to do with the fact that if he saw his son playing with a doll house he would he would break that dollhouse because he wouldn't wouldn't be happy that his son was you know potentially gay and so people said that's hate it's a speech I would have to say that they're right you know if you were gonna say if there's any such thing as hate speech it probably looks a lot like that all right now you could argue oh he was just joking and and I'm I'm sensitive to that argument because sometimes people are just joking and I think that might been some explanation where the real joke was

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some explanation where the real joke was about his own intolerance the joke wasn't about his son the joke wasn't about gay people or you know the value of gay people I believe is it what he was talking about is how he was not in the vols father not good enough right in in our world today you know I follow the argument I hear what he's saying I I understand the concept of how you could say yeah that it's self-deprecating I understand the argument you know I'm a professional humorist and so I get that you know maybe in his mind it wasn't as bad as it was the way it came across but the way he handled it was not the way the public wanted to handle and so they decided to put some pressure on him and he pulled out and he got out of there now the event the situation itself is a little bit interesting you know I I think I'm gonna I'm gonna back the LGBTQ critics

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gonna I'm gonna back the LGBTQ critics the people who are pro LGBTQ and are criticizing heart I think I'm going to take their side in this one because what he did say was very it was offensive and he had chance he had a chance they gave him a chance to explain himself and he chose not to take that path I think under those conditions the LGBTQ people and ABC had every right to do what they did but here's the interesting part taking taking it a level higher the it seems to me that increasingly the Democratic Party is throwing the black community under the bus in favor of women and LGBTQ now when I'm talking about this I'm not talking about facts and I'm not talking about all the context that would you know give you a clearer picture of this I'm talking

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clearer picture of this I'm talking about the way it feels and the way it feels is more predictive than what the facts are because people act on their feelings if you were if you were a let's say a black man in the United States and you're just paying attention to the news you're not doing a deep dive because most people are not right most people just sort of skim the headlines or they're vaguely aware of the news so let's say you're just typical American you're watching the headlines like everybody else you're seeing President Trump working with a bipartisan group of black leaders on prison reform and being apparently all in and you're saying that his team is the one who was driving it you know Jared right so there's no doubt no doubt if you're watching this know no ambiguity whatsoever that the president is doing something that is unambiguously good for the african-american world you're also looking at your employment

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you're also looking at your employment rate looking great and you're looking at you're looking at some pardons of african-american people who are wrongly accused you're looking at all right so you're looking at those things and then you're watching the Democratic Party which is your home right your political home if you're if you're an African American you know if you're African American in this in this country most likely you think the Democrat parties your home and then you see kirsten gillibrand tweet and it says that the future is women the future is women now that actually is probably true right so I'm not going to criticize whether that's a true or false statement because it's true enough I would say that that's a valid statement but how does it feel how does it feel when I say

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does it feel how does it feel when I say the future is women I the way I interpret that based on Gillibrand's quote is that the I would say the female sensibility will dominate and I think that's probably true you know it will increase in importance in the future and I would observe that that has been true and I think it will be continued to be true but how does that feel if you're a black man and you're watching your party say the future is women and then you're watching the the party go a hard at Kevin Hart do you think Kevin Hart is a Republican probably not I mean I don't know I have no idea what his political feelings are but just based on the fact he's in the entertainment industry and he's a black man probably he leans Democrat but now

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man probably he leans Democrat but now you're watching the LGBTQ community go after him in my opinion they have a good point but the way it feels is that you know black men are being sort of pushed out of the party and the Republicans are offering something something that the Democrats weren't offering which is respect and getting some things done you're not seeing respect or getting things done if you're a black man and oh and then look at immigration who who benefits job wise when you tighten up immigration here's one of the biggest the biggest little secrets among the Democratic Party there are a lot of Democrats who don't like immigration and even Democrats can't say it out loud and I'm pretty sure that if you were a black

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pretty sure that if you were a black American and especially if you're in the the the income group that would be most competing with jobs from immigrants that you're not too big on immigrants you're probably plenty friendly in terms of the people who are already here but the question of how many you let in you might be a little more Republican than you're letting on because people do pursue their self-interest and this is clearly a self-interest and there's something else about Republicans championing immigration control and and that is that rich people kind of benefit by immigration you know if you look at my life at like how was my personal rich white guy life how has it been influenced by immigration probably improved because there's cheap labor there's people to do stuff that I need you know it's if you compare it to let

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you know it's if you compare it to let me give you an example where I grew up in upstate New York there there's close to zero undocumented immigrants right so I grew up where there are basically no immigrants and that would be true today so I I keep in touch with family etc back there if you wanted somebody to do a small task for you in my town in upstate New York you wanted to hire somebody just do let's say you know fix something in your house or you know dig a hole or something like that you can't find anybody you cannot hire anybody to do a whole range of physical labor where I grew up because there are no undocumented immigrants but they handle this massive amount of labor that you just can't get done unless they're there so when you watch Republicans or anybody who's supporting them when you think of Republicans you

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them when you think of Republicans you think of you know rich white guys the sort of automatic association but they're acting against their own self-interest in many cases so acting against their own comfort and even financial self-interest in limiting the amount of low-cost labor in the country so somebody says bs not a good argument it's not really an argument I'm not presenting this as an argument I'm telling you that the way people feel is based on what they're seeing and they're experiencing and how they feel is not an argument so it should feel if you were a black citizen of the United States is probably feeling forget about the facts it's probably feeling like the Republicans are making a good-faith genuine effort to make your life better and the Republican and their and the Democrats kind of more of a party for women their

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kind of more of a party for women their self branding is a party for women they're talking about the future in terms of women so it might be a little less welcoming so you can see a surprise there I
your anecdotes about whether or not you can find somebody to dig a hole for you are not really convincing Inuk know to live in evidence is not convincing when I use my example of not being able to find labor in my old hometown it's it's to describe the story you know that one example should not be persuasive it's just how to tell the story with a with an example how's the altitude sickness all better yeah who knew for

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sickness all better yeah who knew for some reason I never knew there was a thing called altitude sickness until I came where I am right now I'm in Utah at 8000 feet and the first two days here were pretty bad you know you're dizzy you can't breathe headachy you lose your appetite you can't you can't sleep it's pretty ugly and I think it happens through at least half of the people who come here yeah when I got here everybody was handing me water and saying drink water drink lots of water but they didn't say why they said that that you'd get dehydrated up here and so I thought that's why you drink water you drink water because you're dehydrated they did not say the drinking water is your primary defense against altitude sickness that was never mentioned I've got a feeling that the people working in the resort and vacation industry up here more focus on your thirst than the fact

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more focus on your thirst than the fact that is preventing you from getting you know an actual illness that feels like the flu is there a difference if you drive in versus flying I think so anecdotally people here talk about people getting off the plane that came from lower altitude and they're instantly higher altitude and one of the ways that you can adjust is by staying a thousand feet lower for a day to kind of adjust and then you go up the next thousand feet so my guess is that driving is better but I don't have science for that
how do you do in Denver Denver's mile-high so that would be a little lower it wouldn't it there's something magical about a thousand feet when you reach a thousand feet that's when altitude sickness seems to kick in so yeah at five thousand feet you're not

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so yeah at five thousand feet you're not going to get a lot of altitude sickness as seven thousand you're not going to get a lot but there's something about a thousand at least people are telling me that that the sort of a magic cutter offer when it becomes problematic does weed make it better well I can't say for sure but you sound very calm
Christina had less problem with it but she had a little problem of breathing if you go to the gym here there's a gym and they resort if you go to the gym everybody's just sucking wind
let's talk about Muller and all the new Muller porn news I forgot to talk about that you can see so clearly in all of

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that you can see so clearly in all of the Muller revelations the the two movies effect I was pretty sure that whatever new information dropped about coming in here man affair or anything else about Muller I was pretty sure that I would read it and I would say um so what big deal doesn't involve the president etc and I was pretty sure that all the anti-trump errs would read it and say ha ha ha ha this feels so good we got him now this time we got you and of course that's what happened so it looks like all of the news about the big news and the clues to me they feel like they're leaning toward Trump being in the clear now he tweeted apparently without any context he tweeted that you know he had been completely vindicated or shown to be in the clear somehow and

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or shown to be in the clear somehow and I assume he was talking about the new information coming out of the Moller stuff and one of them that that is hard to interpret so you know or rely on Dershowitz to do the the legal interpretation if if Cohen had given them something on the president that was really actionable something that would really take down the president would Muller give him recommend a long sentence because the recommendations are that he'd go to jail for a significant amount of time it seems to me that if Cohen had been you in terms of implicating somebody above him that he would be up for a very little jail time seems to me Flynn was the opposite situation because he was very cooperative but we haven't seen anything come out of that and my guess is given that what Flynn was accused of

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is given that what Flynn was accused of which was really just not being forthcoming about some Russian guys he talked to if that's all he knew if Flynn didn't know anything else except his own situation it makes sense that he would fully cooperate and then when he was done there wouldn't be anything about the president that was that was a problem so the Flynn thing makes complete sense in my movie where you know the president is not implicated by anything that Flynn is saying or do it and then the Cohen situation Cohen really does know unlike Flynn Flynn we could imagine doesn't know what everybody else is doing didn't know what the president did or did not do
do but Cohen was on the inside of the stormy Daniel stuff and whoever the other woman was yet he was on the inside with you know whatever conversations they had with Russia about a Russian deal so you would expect that if anybody had the goods it would be Cohen and

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had the goods it would be Cohen and because Cohen is built he's burned all of his bridges with anybody who you know was associated with the president or likes the president all of those bridges are burned the only thing that Cohen can do that would be good for Cohen and his family is to cooperate and get no jail time but yeah he did not cooperate enough and did not get and did not get off
off so apparently you'll get jail time that tells me he didn't have anything to offer and that all of his problems were self self-generated in other words he yeah well it's also somebody's pointing out that the initial interviewers of Flynn said he didn't lie so there were there are lots of extenuating circumstances around the Flynn situation but the Flynn situation was trivia and the Cohen situation seems to be all about Cohen it doesn't seem to be about the president but that said there's

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the president but that said there's enough you know russia-related things in the sentences that people use when they talk about it that everybody who hates the president is going to assume assume that he did something we just haven't found it yet so those who say the president is in trouble don't have any evidence for that hypothesis nor do I have evidence that he's not in trouble but it would be very unusual if you're just trying to handicap the odds here the odds that we wouldn't already know something that would get the president in trouble feels very low doesn't it because look at all the things we do know put together all the things we know that did happen and how they're not really terribly problem for the president in terms of him being removed

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president in terms of him being removed from office or going to jail or anything like that none of them really seem important and we know a lot of them in this leaky world what are the odds that we would not have even heard of a rumor of something that could take down the president nothing not a suspicion well their suspicions without evidence but there's nothing that's like evidence that somebody would say well if that's true huh nothing like that yeah the Roger stone thing is a fun element to this story and as I've said before what makes it fun is that he's famous for not telling the truth so would it really matter what Roger stone did or did not say about what he did or did not do and same with course II so there they're literally famous for being unreliable so are you gonna build a can

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unreliable so are you gonna build a can you build a case based on you know the the the biessing of two people who are known to be unreliable there's no not much of a case there yeah was it who said the walls are closing in was that Brandon so listen to that language the walls are closing in do you know what that phrase the walls are closing in leaves out what's missing what's missing there's anything like a reason or a fact now of course the the reason or the context is that you know Cohan and Flynn and all these people are talking and and that Muller might be reaching the end of whatever he's doing we like to think every week but doesn't happen but where are the reasons and can anybody explain to me I think I'll just maybe ask this question once every week

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maybe ask this question once every week or two until somebody offers even even a stab at the answer if the Russians were trying to help Trump as opposed to just model with our process and make it less credible or whatever if their real reason was to help Trump why did they make ads that were anti Hillary was it some of the employees got the message Rob how do you explain that was it to help cover their bases in case they got caught doesn't really feel like a good plan was it yeah it was always somebody sitting yes I think that's yes to covering their bases and if they were serious about it why were though the memes so weak and so poorly done that you can't imagine any major developed country could be behind it it look like

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country could be behind it it look like you know some rogue I may be trying to help to help Putin out maybe get a little you know it'll get some brownie points with Putin it looks like somebody just said we'll do some memes and maybe Putin did or did not say go ahead but that's pretty weak and haven't we heard people question at this point haven't we seen some questions whether we can really know the intentions of Russia to compare these two hypotheses one hypothesis is that Russia thought that Clinton would be a disaster not just for Russia but maybe for for the world right because if Russia gets into it with the United States it's not a good situation so it may what's the difference between saying that Russia was Pro Trump versus saying they were anti Hillary

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saying they were anti Hillary how do you make that distinction isn't it possible that they that Russia was more likely and anyone but Clinton camp you know don't you think that they just didn't want Clinton to win now they may have said well let's just you know screw with the system but you also theft to think that Russia thought the same thing that we thought which is that she was definitely gonna win you know do you think the Russians thought that Trump was gonna win it doesn't feel like it because nobody else did except you know a few pundits like me all right
why isn't someone put together a report on all the Russian ads used well I've seen from Facebook they did release the ads that were on Facebook and you can't look at I think it's a full list of the ads and they are so weak and poorly done

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ads and they are so weak and poorly done and as I said they're on both sides of Clinton and Trump that it's hard to imagine what the purpose was it if I had to look at that evidence all right let me let me give you a conspiracy theory I guess it would be that because I don't have any evidence on all right so what I'm gonna say has no evidence but I'm just gonna give you an explanation for those Russian campaign ads for 2016 that's different from the one you've heard uh-huh all right the one they've heard is that the Russian government for some reason did a terrible amateur job that was easy to detect and for some reason criticized both sides maybe but it would be unusual let's compare that to another theory somebody paid this Russian company

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somebody paid this Russian company somebody who wasn't Russia could have been you know could have been you know a billionaire in this country does somebody paid this little Russian troll farm to make ads and the Russian troll farm because they're Russians and they know that they can take this billionaire's money and they don't really have to produce much in terms of effectiveness said oh yeah we can make you some great memes give us a few million dollars and we'll make you some campaign memes and well these are really be worth the money and then the unknown buyer gives them money they do terrible ads because they don't know how to do it well but they said they did and then the next thing you know Putin is getting blamed which is more likely that Russia is so bad and making memes and you know they're their best people can't make a meme is that possible or is it possible

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meme is that possible or is it possible that a Russian company screwed a customer let me just ask you that of those two things which is more likely a Russian company screwed a customer or they were working with Putin to do a really bad job and it didn't and they didn't even have all their ads pointing in the same direction now imagine they had two customers one of them wanted them to create ads were anti-trump that customer paid a lot and got a lot of ads a second customer comes in and says hey can you make me some anti-hillary yeah some anti the anti Trump ads so one customer says give me some pro Trump ads another says give me some anti Trump ads the second one has less money pays less guest fewer ads so when the FBI and CIA and everybody who's looking at it they say oh 90% of these are our pro Trump so that must be

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these are our pro Trump so that must be Putin's intention it's kind of a leap because remember this was a commercial troll farm that I imagined it would take money from anybody who wanted to pay them so if any outside sources said give me some Trump ads give me some Hillary ads that would completely explain everything we've seen I'm not saying that's what happened yeah I'm not offering evidence that happened I'm just saying that if you compare that explanation which is completely ordinary and explains every fact right the fact that they just had customers who bought memes and they didn't care what the means were for explains every fact that we can see that doesn't mean it's true but the the official story doesn't explain the facts doesn't explain why they're so bad doesn't explain why they're so easy to catch and it doesn't explain why they had ads targeting both

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explain why they had ads targeting both sides just doesn't explain it somebody says Russian Intel isn't commercial the troll farm wasn't part of the Intel community it was a commercial separate thing owned by a billionaire it was just one of the companies he owned now it's probably true that they did work for the Russian government if the Russian government was willing to pay him or they had some you know favors to curry but it wasn't officially a part of their Intel their intentions were to be divisive maybe maybe so if their intention was to be divisive that too would be more likely in terms of explaining all the facts then then the official version so I would say there are two explanations that given the facts and evidence are more likely than the official one let's

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more likely than the official one let's see yeah why is there no Academy Award category for periscopes where are the Emmys for periscopes good question I'm seeing lots of questions about Navarro and all I understand is that he's kind of a China trade Hawk but I don't know anything beyond that it's probably good to throw a hawk in there because that again creates contrast if we decide to make a deal with China that isn't some in the reasonable zone it will be helpful it will be helpful to have a hard notice person on the negotiations
thoughts on the Yellowjackets well it looks like they did their job of getting that gas tax reversed so I think

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getting that gas tax reversed so I think when it comes right down to it people in the middle class do not want to fund climate change so what happens when the people who have to pay for it just refuse what do I think of the proud boys and Gavin McGinnis well I don't think I know enough about the group but it seems like they're like every other group in which they have some perfectly nice people and some were not that would explain every large group right so that's the only thing I can say about that is and a lot of the folks that get accused of racism are really closer to the free speech category in other words people who who speak freely and are not worried about what they say in terms of how other people interpret it almost always look like terrible people or they will be portrayed as

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people or they will be portrayed as terrible by others and with the proud boys there's certainly some of that going on but I'm not going to defend or criticize them because I don't know enough I'll just make a general statement my opinion on Laurel Umar's banned from Twitter the weird thing about Laurel umer being banned from Twitter is that she was banned for liberal speak so she is obviously more associated with conservatives but the thing she got banned for was agreeing with liberal slur I don't I don't have to explain that because what she was saying was and you know I don't want to get banned from periscope from making the same mistake but it's also I'll say and generally I believe she was speaking out against discriminate against she was speaking out against anti-semites at about anti women

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anti-semites at about anti women opinions now she named a specific person as being in that camp and I believe she offered some reasons I don't know enough about that person and I don't want to get banned from Twitter for just talking about something I don't know too much about but the message that Laura Loomer got banned for as I understand it was that there should be less anti-semitism and that women should be treated better
now the context was Sharia but it still was a perfectly liberal message now it happens to be a liberal message that conservatives agree with but I think it's the first time correct me if I'm wrong is that the first time anybody's been banned from Twitter for being politically correct can you think of an

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politically correct can you think of an example because that was I'm saying politically correct just to make the point what she was saying was fact-based which is that Sharia you know the way it's practiced and the way some people would prefer to practice it could be bad for anybody who is not Islamic and it could be bad for women I don't think anybody defends the fact that there's some risk in that but that's all I know about it yeah we've already talked about Tillerson what does a female future look like for men well it's a good question you know the the value of men you know s certainly decreased because women don't meet need men for incomes they don't necessarily need men to protect them you

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necessarily need men to protect them you know as long as there police forces and stuff like that which are men but they don't need a husband to do it necessarily so I think the the the value of men has decreased but interestingly the value of women has decreased as well for different reasons so I think the value that men and women have for each other has tremendously decreased and it's no surprise that younger people are not even dating all right look who owns more of Twitter than Jack Dorsey yeah so there is a a Saudi investor who owns a part of Twitter I understand but I don't know if that's the reason laura Loomer got got banned that would be a leap all right I think

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that would be a leap all right I think I've said everything I need to say for today I'm going to leave it on that and I will talk to you later